Absolutely. Let me be clear that as soon as Caitlin is out of the WNBA, so goes my interest.
It's such a petty and spiritually ugly league.
Surely some of you are experiencing this
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Absolutely. Let me be clear that as soon as Caitlin is out of the WNBA, so goes my interest.
It's such a petty and spiritually ugly league.
You mean, this doesn’t get you excited!! Same garbage every year. Swim team masquerading as a basketball team.
I'll let you know after I look up the word anhedonia.
Honestly, I haven’t been excited about Iowa basketball since the early to mid Tom Davis years. I bought into the Steve Alford hype but soon realized it was just that—hype.You mean, this doesn’t get you excited!! Same garbage every year. Swim team masquerading as a basketball team.
Its still amazing how almost exactly opposite both the mindsets of KF & FM are about how to be successful in their respective sport.
KF: "We'll just (hopefully) prevent the other team from scoring, so all that's ever needed is a couple-ish FG drives from the offense."
FM: "As long as we (hopefully) put the ball in the basket a lot, defense is the least of our concerns."
KF: "We'll just (hopefully) prevent the other team from scoring, so all that's ever needed is a couple-ish FG drives from the offense."
FM: "As long as we (hopefully) put the ball in the basket a lot, defense is the least of our concerns."
I'm just learning to lower my expectations for both programs.
Helps me get over losses much quicker than in the past. I find this is the best strategy. Expect the worst, then be pleasantly surprised when either team exceeds those expectations.
I feel the need to expound a bit.
As far as football goes, Iowa has always been and always will be a developmental program.
If college kids want to win national championships don't come to Iowa. If you want to be coached up and have a good college career, go to a respectable bowl and ready yourself for the pro game then by all means consider Iowa.
It is what it is.
It's taken me too long to come to this conclusion, but under KF this is all Iowa will ever be. I just hope KF decides to hang it up soon. We need some fresh blood in this program and I think most people agree with this.
Helps me get over losses much quicker than in the past. I find this is the best strategy. Expect the worst, then be pleasantly surprised when either team exceeds those expectations.
I feel the need to expound a bit.
As far as football goes, Iowa has always been and always will be a developmental program.
If college kids want to win national championships don't come to Iowa. If you want to be coached up and have a good college career, go to a respectable bowl and ready yourself for the pro game then by all means consider Iowa.
It is what it is.
It's taken me too long to come to this conclusion, but under KF this is all Iowa will ever be. I just hope KF decides to hang it up soon. We need some fresh blood in this program and I think most people agree with this.
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I must still care a bit too much, because every time the Iowa offense fails to put the maximum amount of points on the board due to KF's self-defeating conservatism, it aggravates and pisses me off.
Like the Iowa St game a couple weeks ago. That game should have been out of reach and put to bed by halftime, instead the Hawks didn't even reach 20 points and lost by a point because of KF's intrinsic need to always play for 3 instead of 7.
I still believe Iowa football is appointment television and I scrape together a few tickets each year to attend in person. I switched from being a MBB season ticket holder to a WBB season ticket holder a couple of years ago and admittedly I don’t catch every MBB game on TV since then but I still watch quite a few. The winter season demands a lot of time to catch everything when you add wrestling to the mix as well. I actually think the MBB team could be pretty decent this year, so if they start rolling I’ll definitely be watching.
This. The failures of those Garza and Murray teams to do anything in the postseason really took something out of me. I still watch quite a few of the games but my passion is dead. It wouldn't take long for that to come back with a good tournament run, but I've lost faith that Fran is the guy that will do it.
At least KF has won a couple of conference titles.. Even if they were 20 years ago. Fran has really won nothing of note but still essentially had a lifetime contract, at least under the previous AD.
Iowa Men's Basketball: One Sweet 16 since 1988. None since 1999.
That is truly gross.
Any “fresh blood” will have trouble achieving what Kirk has . It’s not easy at Iowa, never was and never will be.
"But Fran still finishes ~.500 or slightly better every year in the B1G!! You expect too much, be happy with what we've got!"
- every FM apologist
But why? I don't think there are better fans in the country. Resources are aplenty. If you can continue what Kirk has built and then add in a few offensive wrinkles, like a dual threat QB and some wide receivers, I think Iowa is a highly desirable program for a lot of high schoolers. The greatest impediment to Iowa being a Top 10 program is sharing in-state talent with Iowa State. But the overall point stands: Iowa should be a greater draw than it is.
You should find other hobbies and interests, then. Something where you don't ruin everyone else's enjoyment of it all.
<<I don't think there are better fans in the country>>
Except for them being neutralized by, quite possibly, some of the worst fans in the country.
This is overblown a bit. Sure, we can’t compete with the blue bloods, but we are miles above most programs. For example, the Florida at Mississippi St game on earlier today. There couldn’t have been more than 10,000 fans in the stands. It’s the 4th game of the fvcking season and MS was 2-1. Kids see that shit. Kinnick is rockin no matter what. We’re not OSU, but we aren’t NW either.
I feel like we were "in the game", but never had any realistic chance to actually win the game, if that makes any sense.
Any reason why they’ve placed their hands on the hips of the guys in front of them? Creepy.You mean, this doesn’t get you excited!! Same garbage every year. Swim team masquerading as a basketball team.
There's another psychological term at play: cognitive dissonance. If one no longer watches Iowa's televised or streamed games because they don't like the coaches, or aren't making the national title games, or dislike the coaches, or whatever reason, they are not an Iowa fan. Those cognitions are antithetical to being a fan. Why on Earth would someone feel the need to come to an Iowa board and write about their lack of interest in Iowa athletics?
Not saying anyone cannot post the negativity just asking why? What does one get from airing, at times constantly, the same group of grievances.
Not saying anyone cannot post the negativity just asking why? What does one get from airing, at times constantly, the same group of grievances.
Biz as usual. Hawks are always an underdog. CC was lightning in a bottle. Don’t expect it to happen again. Go Hawks!
Kirk and the lack of offense has sucked all the enjoyment out of watching Hawkeye Football. Even when the defense and special teams play lights out, the knowledge that the offense is incapable of gaining two first downs to get into field goal range or burn out the clock turns the end of the game into slow torture.
Then don't watch and don't bother the actual fans with your negativity. You don't have to be an Iowa fan. Just weird that you'd take the time to post about a team you dislike, in which you have no interest, and are always negative. Seriously, I think you'd enjoy the tOSU culture and success much more than Iowa.
Oh look, another pretentious a-hole that thinks they get to determine who is a fan or not. 🙄
I am neither. However, I am smart enough to understand the logical conclusions to be formed from other people's exact words.
If those people do not like the conclusions to be drawn from their words perhaps, they should write different words. The posters of whom I wrote are telling the world they are no longer fans. A symptom of cognitive dissonance is a burst of rage and anger born of frustration when forced to confront the reality that doesn't match their behavior. I'll assume that psychological reaction explains the personal attacks and name calling you directed at me. Courtesy costs nothing.
Well I ***never*** said I stopped being a fan. I’ll always be a fan. What I clearly stated was that these particular programs, under these particular coaches, have for the moment stopped giving me the pleasure I’ve long derived from them. Like the seasons, these things are cyclical.
So you are a fan...sometimes. I'm guessing when things are going well, yes? Like a bandwagon jumper, yes? I don't know which post was yours but there are too many constantly negative people writing too much drivel about not watching, will watch with different coaches, etc... That all says I used to be a fan (maybe) although some guys on here haven't written a positive thing since they started posting years ago. I just don't know why people who feel so much negativity bother writing about Iowa-especially for people that say they no longer even watch.
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