Talk of firing Kirk Ferentz

[ScoutRefugee]

Stick to shaving your armpits and getting brazilian wax jobs sweety, and leave football to those that have an inkling of what's going on. Oh, and we're still waiting for you to answer my question from yesterday. You won't and can't. Stick to picking on nite wing because you're overmatched against anyone else cupcake....oh, I forgot, he blocked you, LMAO!

"sweety...cupcake...brazilian wax". None of those names/terms can make you cease to be a lying, excuse making piece of shit. But I have a feeling you know that. Everyone on this board knows that.
Tell us some more lies, why don't you. Like the time you helped Vince Lombardi put together the game plan for the first Super Bowl. Or some such horse shit. You're lies are awesome.

 

[BetterLuckNextTime]

I like KF and I think he runs a good program. We are always competitive and we average 6-7 wins every year. Just 2 short years ago we were 12-0 and playing in the rose bowl.

I will say this his staff needs to upgrade at the WR position. IF we go into next year w/Easley as our top target we will see the same thing as this year. Loaded box vs the run and no open pass plays.

Definition of "always":
al·ways
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adverb
adverb: always; adverb: alway
1.
at all times; on all occasions.
"the sun always rises in the east"

 

[ScoutRefugee]

This conversation has been ongoing for the better part of a decade. So and so wide receiver, quarterback, insert skill position needs an upgrade, then our offense will be better.

Yes, it absolutely is the same set of issues that we see every season. And every season, the same set of apologists never fail to come back and tell us how these issues will be better next year, because of all of the youthful talent. And next year they will be better because they will have the experience that they lack now.
It's as sure as death and taxes.

 

[Muskie5]

"sweaty...cupcake...brazilian wax". None of those names/terms can make you cease to be a lying, excuse making piece of shit. But I have a feeling you know that. Everyone on this board knows that.
Tell us some more lies, why don't you. Like the time you helped Vince Lombardi put together the game plan for the first Super Bowl. Or some such horse shit. You're lies are awesome.

Not one person on this board has supported your nonsense. I think you really are a woman. You lose an argument so you try to change the argument. You can keep deflecting and attempting to redirect all you want, but the fact remains that you haven't answered the simple question yet. We all are waiting. You think your childish insults and fabrications are impressing anyone or riling me up? You overestimate yourself. I can take you or leave you, but I'm a nice guy, so I keep giving you a chance to redeem yourself. We're waiting.....

 

[ScoutRefugee]

Not one person on this board has supported your nonsense. I think you really are a woman. You lose an argument so you try to change the argument. You can keep deflecting and attempting to redirect all you want, but the fact remains that you haven't answered the simple question yet. We all are waiting. You think your childish insults and fabrications are impressing anyone or riling me up? You overestimate yourself. I can take you or leave you, but I'm a nice guy, so I keep giving you a chance to redeem yourself. We're waiting.....

Every person on this board knows you're a liar. That's a YOU problem. Now, you're the one that just got done leveling childish insults at me and you take me to task for such? I guess you'll just have to "leave me". I'll lose a lot of sleep over that and I'll miss your stupid lies. But I'll get by.
Before you go...what did Knute Rockne tell you again?

 

[Muskie5]

Every person on this board knows you're a liar. That's a YOU problem. Now, you're the one that just got done leveling childish insults at me and you take me to task for such? I guess you'll just have to "leave me". I'll lose a lot of sleep over that and I'll miss your stupid lies. But I'll get by.
Before you go...what did Knute Rockne tell you again?

That is a lie, like most of what you post. I showed everyone CLEARLY that you made things up and LIED. You have never addressed that, but we all know why. You're a coward and a phoney. How come no one is coming to your defense? I have no 'problems'. You have absolutely no credibility here and never have. You just like to think your 'cool' because you have a woman in a bikini for a avatar and like to hear yourself talk. What a child. The only one that ever even listened to you was nitewing and he blocked you, LOL. I'll give you one more chance to come clean, admit what you did, and apologize. We're waiting, this is your last chance.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

That is a lie, like most of what you post. I showed everyone CLEARLY that you made things up and LIED. You have never addressed that, but we all know why. You're a coward and a phoney. How come no one is coming to your defense? I have no 'problems'. You have absolutely no credibility here and never have. You just like to think your 'cool' because you have a woman in a bikini for a avatar and like to hear yourself talk. What a child. The only one that ever even listened to you was nitewing and he blocked you, LOL. I'll give you one more chance to come clean, admit what you did, and apologize. We're waiting, this is your last chance.

"one more chance"......really? You're the liar. Everyone knows. Fly away. I'm tired of owning you.

 

[kceasthawk]

We're stuck with KF. And yes, he is a good man. And he has some strengths as a football coach.

But I think KF has a hidden mental health issue which prevents him from addressing his shortcomings as a coach. I don't think KF himself realizes this.

I'm not kidding.

And BF probably has this too, perhaps not as hidden. Did he really punch a wall and break his hand? We know he had an expletive-laced tirade in the press box.

Thats rich. So people complain that KF doesn't show any passion, and when his son does, its because he has a mental health problem? I love how people try to frame their argument.

 

[Boomer51]

Here is the problem. I am old enough to remember when Gary Barnett took over Northwestern, he circled the Iowa game, and said a lot of programs in the Big Ten look at Iowa as the gold standard, and that's how they want their program. I think it is hard to argue, we are no longer the gold standard, and many of those have moved past us.
So, time for a change.

 

[The Sleeping Dog]

This record, if 6-6 is a bad season for Iowa. A bad season. Look down from there and you'll find a long way to fall.

One bad season doesn't justify firing a coach that was 12-0 two years ago, and lost the B!G title on the last second score. Assuming a coaching upgrapde would follow a coaching change is simply naive, at best. We thought we'd upgrade from our very sucessful basketball coach and we ended up hiring the equivalent of lung cancer for our boys BBall program.

We have a pretty good to very good coach. He builds a good system, finds players that work in his system and his system usually wins. However, KF's not a great coach. A great coach improvises game plans that work for the players he has and not necessarily the system he prefers. The stubborn insistence at running inside when the line has failed to provide even a little crease just does not work, especially when the opponent knows its coming.

Sight unseen Iowa wins 9 next year. Book it Danno.

 

[Randall Stanhope]

Here is the problem. I am old enough to remember when Gary Barnett took over Northwestern, he circled the Iowa game, and said a lot of programs in the Big Ten look at Iowa as the gold standard, and that's how they want their program. I think it is hard to argue, we are no longer the gold standard, and many of those have moved past us.
So, time for a change.

I don't think Barnett looked at Iowa as the Gold Standard. I think he looked at Iowa as:

"A program not named Ohio State, Michigan, or Penn State, that we have a realistic chance of catching up with or surpassing."

 

[HaydenHawk8]

This record, if 6-6 is a bad season for Iowa. A bad season. Look down from there and you'll find a long way to fall.

One bad season doesn't justify firing a coach that was 12-0 two years ago, and lost the B!G title on the last second score. Assuming a coaching upgrapde would follow a coaching change is simply naive, at best. We thought we'd upgrade from our very sucessful basketball coach and we ended up hiring the equivalent of lung cancer for our boys BBall program.

We have a pretty good to very good coach. He builds a good system, finds players that work in his system and his system usually wins. However, KF's not a great coach. A great coach improvises game plans that work for the players he has and not necessarily the system he prefers. The stubborn insistence at running inside when the line has failed to provide even a little crease just does not work, especially when the opponent knows its coming.

Sight unseen Iowa wins 9 next year. Book it Danno.

Yup everyone wants change, but what happens if the change is worse and we don't make a bowl game for 5-6 years?? Then what? We all thought KOK was horrible and wanted change and look what it got us?

KF is a good coach and he has a few shortcomings, but the losses this year are probably 30% on coaching and 70% on player execution. Lets face it, we do not have the talent to overcome big mistakes. Our defense was deceent, but youth in a couple of key positions cost us. On offense we have a lot of youth and HUGE talent gap at WR.

 

[ConvenientParking]

We're one bad hire away from slipping into Minnesota/Illinois/Purdue-after-Tiller territory. Our brand isn't like Nebraska's where we can bring in an unproven-in-P5-up-and-comer and still attract the recruits needed to get to bowl games. 99 and 00 were rough under Ferentz. Since then, we've missed bowling twice. We've fielded 4-5 top ten teams. Dozens of NFL draft picks, tons of big conference games, handful of big bowl games, a few good bowl wins. With the success we've had, we need to be very careful about who the next HC is. We could very easily go 10 years with 2 bowl trips. We don't want to hire someone looking to use Iowa as launch-pad to a job at at LSU, Florida, Tennessee, etc. That type could potentially gut the foundation established by Fry and re-established by Ferentz.

 

[PlutoDroid]

Is this the Twilight Zone? Are we all living the same moments over and over again like an old VHS tape? Well the conversation and subsequent insults do seem to get less in quality and blurrier each time.

" All of you Ferentz haters are immature fools. He's a good coach, well respected. Grow up this is a hiccup. Go be a fan of another team you big babies."

" You are the problem with this fan base. You accept mediocrity and love you some Ferentz no matter what."

"You don't know me effer. I'm a rational clear thinking adult. Go f yourself whiner, leave Hawkeye nation, we don't want you"

" Well now I really know you cornbread Kenny. Keep nibbling on that I love Ferentz cookie and enjoy watching us lose and be the most obsolete program ever. Fire Ferentz!"

 

[83Hawk]

We're one bad hire away from slipping into Minnesota/Illinois/Purdue-after-Tiller territory. Our brand isn't like Nebraska's where we can bring in an unproven-in-P5-up-and-comer and still attract the recruits needed to get to bowl games. 99 and 00 were rough under Ferentz. Since then, we've missed bowling twice. We've fielded 4-5 top ten teams. Dozens of NFL draft picks, tons of big conference games, handful of big bowl games, a few good bowl wins. With the success we've had, we need to be very careful about who the next HC is. We could very easily go 10 years with 2 bowl trips. We don't want to hire someone looking to use Iowa as launch-pad to a job at at LSU, Florida, Tennessee, etc. That type could potentially gut the foundation established by Fry and re-established by Ferentz.

And one good hire from competing for Big 10 championships. It works both ways.

I am not calling for Kirk to be fired. To do so is pointless because it will not happen anytime soon. But what happens if he goes 5-7, 4-8, 3-9 over the next 3 seasons? Do you still keep him because you are afraid it could be worse? To be afraid of change because things could be worse is a defeatist attitude. It is like putting all your money in a CD paying 2% instead of the stock market because the market could go down.

 

[Eternal Return]

I did see one coaching positive yesterday he moved jackson over to cover the Purdue receiver that was gashing rugamba other wise the score could have been 38 to 15 I fully expect a different looking team in Lincoln.I will say if we lose to nebby I will become less optimistic about the future of the program.

Hate to say this, but it was six straight plays. Instead of switching Jackson over after the first TD, he put in Ojemudia who got burned for 35 then put Hankins or Harrell on him for a TD. THEN he switched Jackson to him. Should not have taken that long to figure it out.

 

[Eternal Return]

Is this the Twilight Zone? Are we all living the same moments over and over again like an old VHS tape? Well the conversation and subsequent insults do seem to get less in quality and blurrier each time.

It kind of mirrors Iowa's offense over the years, living the same moment over and over again like an old VHS tape. And like the insults here, the offense's quality seems to get blurrier and blurrier each time. So, the fans are a reflection of the Iowa coaching. We suck when the team sucks. We're great when the team's great. If the fans are sucking this often then what does that say about the team?

But you're right, we need to step up our performance because we can't rely on the Iowa coaches or players to get the show on the road. We have to inspire them so that they can play and coach better. We aren't getting paid, we aren't getting scholarships, we haven't even been invited to walk on, but it's up to us to turn this thing around and lead the charge into the future! We can convince the Hawkeyes players and coaches, through this message board, to take it to the next level! If we can put together a great week of posts on this site then there'll be no chance for Iowa to lose to Nebraska.

I need all of you to follow my lead! We can do it, fellas. This is our time to shine! The media's against us, the coaches are against us, the players are against us, the walk-ons are against us, the band is against us, the turf on the practice field is against us, but by God, we will rise up as one and we will shine our light of optimism and positivity on every dark cloud that comes our way! With us lead ing the way, the Hawkeyes can't lose to anyone anywhere at any time! We are the greatest fans who have ever lived and if we focus our attention completely on making this pathetic Iowa team better then we might still be able to rally them and get them into the College Football Playoffs! We can do it! We can do it! We can do it!

 

[PlutoDroid]

It kind of mirrors Iowa's offense over the years, living the same moment over and over again like an old VHS tape. And like the insults here, the offense's quality seems to get blurrier and blurrier each time. So, the fans are a reflection of the Iowa coaching. We suck when the team sucks. We're great when the team's great. If the fans are sucking this often then what does that say about the team?

But you're right, we need to step up our performance because we can't rely on the Iowa coaches or players to get the show on the road. We have to inspire them so that they can play and coach better. We aren't getting paid, we aren't getting scholarships, we haven't even been invited to walk on, but it's up to us to turn this thing around and lead the charge into the future! We can convince the Hawkeyes players and coaches, through this message board, to take it to the next level! If we can put together a great week of posts on this site then there'll be no chance for Iowa to lose to Nebraska.

I need all of you to follow my lead! We can do it, fellas. This is our time to shine! The media's against us, the coaches are against us, the players are against us, the walk-ons are against us, the band is against us, the turf on the practice field is against us, but by God, we will rise up as one and we will shine our light of optimism and positivity on every dark cloud that comes our way! With us lead ing the way, the Hawkeyes can't lose to anyone anywhere at any time! We are the greatest fans who have ever lived and if we focus our attention completely on making this pathetic Iowa team better then we might still be able to rally them and get them into the College Football Playoffs! We can do it! We can do it! We can do it!

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Preach it! If only the administration in charge were as smart and level headed as us there would be no issues. Just keep that little secret and pass it on incognito style to Gary and Kirk. We wouldn't want anyone to poach it Belichick style.

 

[dfelg11404]

as you can tell Im not a football fan to the extent I post very little on FB forum..

has Iowa FB under Fry & Ferentz the last 39 years been decent?...surely we would all agree.

has their been disappointing games?
...u betcha...even a few disappointing seasons.

Is Ferentz perfect? nope neither are his players...Is the opponent trying?....to win...why surely.

My last comment...if you are on the side to get rid of Ferentz (which wont happen until he hangs it up)....be careful...the next head coach is NEVER A GUARANTEE...

Yep Steve Alford was an big uptick over Tom Davis...

meanwhile, Wisconsin since the 2010 season has finished with wins of 11,11,8,9,11,10,11 and 11+ this year. 3 rose bowl trips, 5 big ten championship game trips. oh yeah, they had THREE DIFFERENT HEAD COACHES DURING THAT TIME

Let's stick with Kirks 7.5 wins a year tho. that's definitely the pinnacle of Iowa football. you could bring a newb D2 coach in with a sense of TODAYS game, and win 7.5 games a year with some of the schedules Iowa has played in the last 8 years. We play in the ****ing big ten west for crying out loud. Northwestern is passing Iowa by. ****ing northwestern.

 

[nitewing]

Hate to say this, but it was six straight plays. Instead of switching Jackson over after the first TD, he put in Ojemudia who got burned for 35 then put Hankins or Harrell on him for a TD. THEN he switched Jackson to him. Should not have taken that long to figure it out.

6 plays means a immediate change? that is some awful damn good drugs you are on and it was 5 straight passes by a QB that only had 85 yards passing in the 1st half, when a team is shutting down a teams QB like they were you don't make drastic changes.

one thing posters are missing is the Anthony Nelson was out and he plays the side where the Purdue QB was rolling out to to pass. AN is the teams leader in sacks, the Purdue staff made the change to attack the side where Iowa leader in sacks was missing.

 

[Eternal Return]

Preach it! If only the administration in charge were as smart and level headed as us there would be no issues. Just keep that little secret and pass it on incognito style to Gary and Kirk. We wouldn't want anyone to poach it Belichick style.

I've been working on my powers of hypnosis for the past 20 seconds. I should be able to turn them into Knute Rockne and Vince Lombardi in a matter of minutes! But I need you and the other guys to keep it up! Let's make this thread EPIC! No more defeatism, we can do this, come on!

The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies. I'm sick of it and I'm not going to take a bite out of it, do you got me?! Resistance is not futile, we're gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, we're not a bunch of under-achievers! We're gonna stand up, and we're gonna be human beings. We're going to get fired up about the real things, the things that matter: creativity and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit. Well, that's it, that's all I got to say. The ball's in your court.

 

[papabeef]

What? Tell me what is wrong with this board. As much as there is ignorant hyperbole from the fire ferentz side, there is also the same hyperbole from the ferentz is untouchable side. The coaching staff deserves a ton of criticism for that crap show yesterday.

Yes, it is ALL the hyperbole that is the problem. People don't know how to just share facts and their feelings these days without going way over the top. But when you see what passes for entertainment and news on the telly, it shouldn't surprise us I guess.[/QUOTE]
going over the top ? you mean like most of your posts on this thread?

 

[ToddStrong]

 

[Eternal Return]

6 plays means a immediate change? that is some awful damn good drugs you are on and it was 5 straight passes by a QB that only had 85 yards passing in the 1st half, when a team is shutting down a teams QB like they were you don't make drastic changes.

one thing posters are missing is the Anthony Nelson was out and he plays the side where the Purdue QB was rolling out to to pass. AN is the teams leader in sacks, the Purdue staff made the change to attack the side where Iowa leader in sacks was missing.

You are the strangest person on the Internet.

 

[ConvenientParking]

And one good hire from competing for Big 10 championships. It works both ways.

I am not calling for Kirk to be fired. To do so is pointless because it will not happen anytime soon. But what happens if he goes 5-7, 4-8, 3-9 over the next 3 seasons? Do you still keep him because you are afraid it could be worse? To be afraid of change because things could be worse is a defeatist attitude. It is like putting all your money in a CD paying 2% instead of the stock market because the market could go down.

It doesn't seem to work both ways equally and I'm not sure your analogy works. Stocks/securities/bonds are not zero sum. Conference titles are zero sum. If we're so down on Barta/Ferentz and we're sure they're the reason we aren't consistently competing for Big Ten titles, that makes two home-run hires needed to elevate the football program to unprecedented levels of consistent success. Not impossible, but we really do need to consider these things carefully. Of course titles should be the goal, but we have a coach who has won two Big Ten titles and one division title and we'll likely be picking from a pool of candidates who have not yet. We've seen that backfire at comparable places in ways that strip the foundation needed for them to even be mediocre. What we have with Kirk now is not a bare cupboard. It's a consistent bowl team with flashes of brilliance and flashes of total incompetence. It's my opinion that we don't want to undo everything and start over with a different brand of football. We can do better, but not if we're reckless and knee-jerk.

 

[ToddStrong]

The O.P is currently sitting in their room eating coco puffs and steaming in their Ferentz jammies. "Let my Ferentz go...from your negative complaints!" He can part the sea of haters and march into the great haven ahead.

Little Caeser's Bowl that is.

 

[Muskie5]

Yes, it is ALL the hyperbole that is the problem. People don't know how to just share facts and their feelings these days without going way over the top. But when you see what passes for entertainment and news on the telly, it shouldn't surprise us I guess.

going over the top ? you mean like most of your posts on this thread?[/QUOTE]
I went back and read my posts on this thread, and in most of them I am calling out hyperbole and offering solid information to show why they 'are' hyperbole. Except with the bikini guy, he's just a liar and a tool so it's fun calling it out. And I didn't say I was immune to it, but I'm usually the one calling it out. I normally use hyperbole to have fun, I don't take this as seriously as most.

 

[nitewing]

nm decided to make what I wanted to post in a thread by its self

 

[83Hawk]

It doesn't seem to work both ways equally and I'm not sure your analogy works. Stocks/securities/bonds are not zero sum. Conference titles are zero sum. If we're so down on Barta/Ferentz and we're sure they're the reason we aren't consistently competing for Big Ten titles, that makes two home-run hires needed to elevate the football program to unprecedented levels of consistent success. Not impossible, but we really do need to consider these things carefully. Of course titles should be the goal, but we have a coach who has won two Big Ten titles and one division title and we'll likely be picking from a pool of candidates who have not yet. We've seen that backfire at comparable places in ways that strip the foundation needed for them to even be mediocre. What we have with Kirk now is not a bare cupboard. It's a consistent bowl team with flashes of brilliance and flashes of total incompetence. It's my opinion that we don't want to undo everything and start over with a different brand of football. We can do better, but not if we're reckless and knee-jerk.

First off....I am not calling for Kirk to be fired.

Second, you can’t just assume Iowa would do worse with a different coach. Sure it has backfired elsewhere, but it has also succeeded elsewhere.

But I agree....it depends on who is hired. I feel handing the job to Brian would be reckless. When the time comes, a thorough search and vetting needs to be done.

 

[GenericHawk]

Everone is touting the recent 12-0 run but fails to mention that we lost the only two games that mattered in that season where we played mostly cupcakes. We got absolutely dismantled and embarrassed on a national stage by Stanford that season. Very typical Kirk Ferentz bowl team right there. The last bowl game we won was 2010 people! 2010! What are we doing? Why are we paying millions for this every year?

Listen, football head coach is not a career job and shouldn't be. They make a lot of money for a short time and then either move on or take a different position at a different school. Look at someone like Barry Alvarez. He had a good run, brought a lot of success to Wisconsin, and then moved to AD. He was smart enough to get out before the game passed him by and he was no longer able to keep his team competitive in the conference. I can't think of too many coaches that have been riding the AD relationship quite like Ferentz with Barta. The two of them have a very weird co-dependence thing going on. Time for Ferentz, and ideally both of them to go. Never forget that Barta also hired Todd Lickliter.

 

[Eternal Return]

You've all given up. Coach Ferentz hasn't. He admits he's too dumb to understand what's wrong with the team, but he's going to keep trying! We can't give up on him. He's admitted that he is too stupid to coach football so we need to think for him because he can't do this on his own. He's the leader of the team, but he's dumb as a box of rocks and he has trouble learning. Sure, he has learning disabilities, but he's OUR dumb leader so we need more positive posts to help him believe that he is smarter than he actually is!

Just listen to the man, read what he said after the game yesterday:

"When you lose games it's hard. You always search for reasons, and you try to find out -- zero in on what might have caused it. And today we didn't execute well enough on any of those three phases, like I said. The cause, I'm not sure I'm smart enough to know that, but we're going to have to try to find a way to remedy it at least and play more sound, consistent football."

That line never gets old. He usually uses it on Tuesdays before games, but he's changing it up and saying he's too stupid to understand what causes what in football games AFTER the game. That's a major change on his part. He's gone from stupid on Tuesday to stupid on Saturday. Sure, he's weak-minded and feeble, but he pretends to be humble about it so it's okay. Aw, shucks, guys, come on, this is his new strategy to build confidence in his abilities. Or maybe he's senile, I don't know, but it doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter!

 

[PlutoDroid]

I've been working on my powers of hypnosis for the past 20 seconds. I should be able to turn them into Knute Rockne and Vince Lombardi in a matter of minutes! But I need you and the other guys to keep it up! Let's make this thread EPIC! No more defeatism, we can do this, come on!

The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies. I'm sick of it and I'm not going to take a bite out of it, do you got me?! Resistance is not futile, we're gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, we're not a bunch of under-achievers! We're gonna stand up, and we're gonna be human beings. We're going to get fired up about the real things, the things that matter: creativity and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit. Well, that's it, that's all I got to say. The ball's in your court.

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[ConvenientParking]

I feel handing the job to Brian would be reckless. When the time comes, a thorough search and vetting needs to be done.

100% agreement. For Brian to even be considered by me, it'd mean that his Iowa offenses were top-third in the conference over a number of years (offensive points and yards, in that order). We're currently in no danger there. He has two more years with a pro-style QB who has a great arm. No excuses for the OL (head coach and OC and OL coach who all specialize in OL play should not allow 6 sacks against anyone and definitely not Purdue).

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

It doesn't seem to work both ways equally

Ok, true, there are a lot more teams that DON'T win a conference championship every year than teams that DO. But this attitude that permeates throughout the Iowa fan base about being scared to move on to another coach is such a defeatist, loser mentality. Right now we are a heck of a lot closer to Illinois' level than we are Wisconsin's level, and I see very little on the horizon to think that things might change anytime soon, other than the "easier schedule" argument that most people use, which is also for losers.

 

[dirtypool]

longtime lurker during football seasons. first time poster.

I took a 'whatever' attitude towards Hawkeye football (and sports in general) after attending the 2014 Nebraska game, where Iowa took the foot off of the gas and tried to sit on a huge lead and allowed nebraska to crawl back in it and with Iowa eventually losing in OT

I now do not allow the result of a game to impact my day. Whatever happens on Hawkeye gameday doesn't surprise me. Regardless of opponent, any result win or loss and margin of score doesn't shock me or surprise me anymore.

I am not sure if that is necessarily a good or bad thing. Over the years, fall Saturdays revolved around Hawkeye football and being frustrated after a head scratching loss/ecstatic over a huge win have now turned to indifference. If other things are happening on a saturday, I no longer try to schedule around the game.

As far as the post that warns to be careful what you wish for in regards to a coaching change....that has to be the dumbest reason to keep a coach. Fear of failing shouldn't be a reason to maintain the status quo.

 

[ConvenientParking]

Ok, true, there are a lot more teams that DON'T win a conference championship every year than teams that DO. But this attitude that permeates throughout the Iowa fan base about being scared to move on to another coach is such a defeatist, loser mentality. Right now we are a heck of a lot closer to Illinois' level than we are Wisconsin's level, and I see very little on the horizon to think that things might change anytime soon, other than the "easier schedule" argument that most people use, which is also for losers.

I hate "defeatist, loser mentality" as a popular phrase or paraphrase from Iowa fans. It never changes? We're less than two years removed from "New Kirk" and one play from a CFP bid. I'm not saying it can't be better, but please tell me how it gets better and lay it out with specifics. What's our path, genius?

 

[ConvenientParking]

As far as the post that warns to be careful what you wish for in regards to a coaching change....that has to be the dumbest reason to keep a coach. Fear of failing shouldn't be a reason to maintain the status quo.

So you didn't attend UI and you only casually follow Iowa football now that you don't care much about Iowa football except when they're doing well?

 

[eyeohuh]

It's not just that we are mediocre. Its that we are boring also. Which makes being mediocre feel a whole lot worse. Lots of boring 7-pt wins over the likes of Minny/Rutgers/etc. Constant blowout losses in bowls. Outside of Kinnick at night, Iowa football has been a terrible product the last two years. We didn't sell out a single game this year for a reason.

 

[dirtypool]

So you didn't attend UI and you only casually follow Iowa football now that you don't care much about Iowa football except when they're doing well?

I have gained quite a bit perspective in life the last couple years, and it made me re-evaluate my former rabid obsession with sports and how outcomes of games affected the rest of my day/weekend.

Whether KF stays or goes and whether Iowa goes 10-2 or 6-6 in a season, its just a game. I just do not have any expectations when it comes to hawkeye football. Michigan last year, Ohio State this year, some head slappers against non conference cupcakes over the years proves that any result regardless of opponent should not be a shock to anybody.

If you want to question peoples' "fandom" thats fine. the bare sections in the north end zone on saturday shows there is a problem with the product, whether you think so or not.

 

[katman15]

It's silly to beat up a subject we know ain't happening.

He refuses to trust his players during a season where the biggest challenges they've faced, he had zero choice other than to do exactly that. Ironically, those 3 games were the best Iowa played this year.

ALL the other games, he placed his team in a plastic bubble.

Never gave his offense a chance yesterday...that's what is disheartening about this year.

Explain how he didn't give them a chance..He didn't drop the passes, he didn't miss block after block,
I don't Brian is doing a very good job play calling but other than that , I don't see how he personally didn't give his team a chance. Don't get me wrong, it was bad football again but it was a collective bad effort.