I hate it that the NCAA keeps the rules on drug use a secret.
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I hate it that the NCAA keeps the rules on drug use a secret.
Yeah that’s a myth. I know more people that get hungry while drinking than do smoking, including myself. Besides, anyone cutting weight knows the hunger pains that go with it
Yep. Forget your opinion on whether or not marijuana should or shouldn’t be illegal. If you know as an athlete that you can’t use it then nobody should feel sorry for you.I hate it that the NCAA keeps the rules on drug use a secret.
So where’s he going to end up at?
Rehab or jail or living in someone's basement would be my guessSo where’s he going to end up at?
Lock Haven or maybe Lehigh?Rehab or jail or living in someone's basement would be my guess
So where’s he going to end up at?
He should call Coach Mitchell at Grand View.
well its like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.....does a clean end really exist >?????He's the next great hope, who only needs a guy like Tom Brands to turn things around.
So where’s he going to end up at?
In what way? They are completely different situations imo.This kid is sounding like a little bit of Dayton Racer situation on social media.
I’ll never defend a sexual predator.... but has anyone other than the twitter police charged him with anything? I had hopes when he transferred the Brands could help him turn his life around but definitely time for him to move on.... maybe Minnesota would be a good fit
Yup...I don't know if random Twitter posts are enough to start taking a dump on the dude for this...yet. Let's wait until some facts come out. However, he has some growing up to do.He has had his chances at two of the best wrestling programs in the country...its sink or swim on his own time now.
“He has some growing up to do.”
I know you don’t want to label him a rapist w/o the facts...but that’s really awful optics on your part leaving the door open for someone to interpret your words as raping people is something immature people do and need to grow out of. Not in 2020.
Maybe before making a weak attempt at shaming Chief you should actually read what he said. He said to “wait till facts come out before we start taking a dump on Gavin”. That pertains to the sexual allegations. Then he says “however, he has some growing up to do.” Which obviously has to do with other immature stuff he’s been doing. i.e.: getting booted off a team for weed. We can’t blast people with inaccurate comments, not in 2020.
Maybe before making a weak attempt at shaming Chief you should actually read what he said. He said to “wait till facts come out before we start taking a dump on Gavin”. That pertains to the sexual allegations. Then he says “however, he has some growing up to do.” Which obviously has to do with other immature stuff he’s been doing. i.e.: getting booted off a team for weed. We can’t blast people with inaccurate comments, not in 2020.
Don't you know that everything on Twitter and Facebook is true? It is sad that this is the culture we live in today, crucify someone before knowing a damn thing. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?Thank you. ^^ So many people are in such a hurry to shame/virtue signal someone else that they skip over the actual words and intents of the person that they are aiming for. Chief said nothing wrong...but here comes the SJW police anyway with their self righteous tsk-tsking.
No one is condoning any actual sexual misconduct, but let's get some facts instead of just a Tweet from someone that none of us know before we rip a real person on the internet. It is only awful optics if your perspective is skewed to begin with.
Well those people are idiots and I could care less if they tried to rip me if I said the same thing Chief did. They are the ones that just want to be the SJW that OWF called out. F them!Or maybe realize that some people would completely rip him for that statement regardless of what he meant, and appreciate that I clearly stated I knew what he meant and pointed it out to him gently to correct rather than jump all over him for it.
Well those people are idiots and I could care less if they tried to rip me if I said the same thing Chief did. They are the ones that just want to be the SJW that OWF called out. F them!
Not even close. Just because it's the loudest voices calling foul on everything doesn't mean it's the majority of people. It's sad companies or universities cave to these idiots.That’s your prerogative to deal with the consequences with indifference. But I see a lot of good people get blindsided by such things. Or they act as you say you will, but then not fully grasp that a sizable portion (probably even a majority nowadays) of society will view them in a certain (unfavorable) light.
I’m in the camp of “you do you...but then you give up all rights to complain about the consequences.”
“He has some growing up to do.”
I know you don’t want to label him a rapist w/o the facts...but that’s really awful optics on your part leaving the door open for someone to interpret your words as raping people is something immature people do and need to grow out of. Not in 2020.
That’s your prerogative to deal with the consequences with indifference. But I see a lot of good people get blindsided by such things. Or they act as you say you will, but then not fully grasp that a sizable portion (probably even a majority nowadays) of society will view them in a certain (unfavorable) light.
I’m in the camp of “you do you...but then you give up all rights to complain about the consequences.”
Not even close. Just because it's the loudest voices calling foul on everything doesn't mean it's the majority of people. It's sad companies or universities cave to these idiots.
Just because a mob is angry and loud doesn’t mean it’s right. I think that’s the sentiment that’s proving to be in opposition of your ideas. If what’s being accused is proven true, then I’m all for whatever punishments our laws determine is necessary.
The kid does indeed need to grow up. He posted on Twitter that the ncaa doesn’t like weed. By most accounts this is the second time he’s had to learn that lesson. I believe that’s what chief was referring to.
The difference is Andrew had been arrested numerous times before going to PSU. Gavin had no trouble with the law previously. Andrew failed at life on numerous occasions, Gavin sounds like he is headed down that same path.How does this potentially reflect on the brands? The andrew long example gets brought up as a constant example of cael caring more about winning than morals from his guys. Teasdale came in with a troubled past and may potentially be guilty of equal crimes to long. Do Tom or Terry deserve any flack for wanting to bring him back? My thought is no, it's all on gavin, but since simipar topics come up here so often relating to the long situation I thought I'd at least pose the question.