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Texas Stripped of Powers in Border Security Bill

So sanctuary cities should also be banned then right?
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We are not going to close the border, so don’t try it yourself.

The RNC thanks the DNC for writing campaign ads for them.
 
@sober_teacher gives the laughing emoji because he knows the left is so full of shit on this issue because they fully support Sanctuary Cities. No response needed because no response can be given.
 
@sober_teacher gives the laughing emoji because he knows the left is so full of shit on this issue because they fully support Sanctuary Cities. No response needed because no response can be given.

No I laugh because the whataboutism never end, and I just don’t feel like debating the pros and cons of what the “sanctuary cities” were intended to accomplish; which wasn’t to defy and usurp the authority of the federal government like Abbott is doing here.
 
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No I laugh because the whataboutism never end, and I just don’t feel like debating the pros and cons of what the “sanctuary cities” were intended to accomplish; which wasn’t to defy and usurp the authority of the federal government like Abbott is doing here.
for all it's faults, the concept of sanctuary city policies is very hands off - "immigration enforcement is federal responsibility and our local jurisdiction isn't going to get involved".

texas is saying the federal govt is doing enough to enforce immigration, so we'll do it instead

these two things are very different
 
This seems WAYYYYY too simple. There's a US-Mexico Border... some distance back is simply "Texas" which they have every right to build whatever they want on... build a wall, used barbed wire etc.
 
for all it's faults, the concept of sanctuary city policies is very hands off - "immigration enforcement is federal responsibility and our local jurisdiction isn't going to get involved".

texas is saying the federal govt is doing enough to enforce immigration, so we'll do it instead

these two things are very different

Many of these sanctuary cities refuse to cooperate with federal law enforcement and even refuse to honor their jail holds.
 
This seems WAYYYYY too simple. There's a US-Mexico Border... some distance back is simply "Texas" which they have every right to build whatever they want on... build a wall, used barbed wire etc.

I believe I read that the border patrol has authority 50 miles from the U.S. border.

Plus any wall they build won't account for liberal governors not doing anything in the other three SW border states.
 
No I laugh because the whataboutism never end, and I just don’t feel like debating the pros and cons of what the “sanctuary cities” were intended to accomplish; which wasn’t to defy and usurp the authority of the federal government like Abbott is doing here.
Texas has always had this identity problem. That’s why some of them are so goddamned obnoxious and overbearing.
 
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I believe I read that the border patrol has authority 50 miles from the U.S. border.

Plus any wall they build won't account for liberal governors not doing anything in the other three SW border states.
50 miles seems high, I mean it's only 20 miles off the coast to hit international waters...
 
Immigation is codified by law as a federal issue. Specifically. You really can't have individual states making their own immigration rules, you know.
So in your mind, any law the federal government doesn't like, they can ignore? The states are simply trying to require the federal government to enforce our countries immigration laws. So if Trump wins reelection, can he refuse to enforce current tax law if he wants to?
 
So in your mind, any law the federal government doesn't like, they can ignore? The states are simply trying to require the federal government to enforce our countries immigration laws. So if Trump wins reelection, can he refuse to enforce current tax law if he wants to?
States don’t like how these laws are written abs enforced is more correct. The President’s EO powers are limited and hence this is why Congress needs to get involved.
 
I believe I read that the border patrol has authority 50 miles from the U.S. border.

Plus any wall they build won't account for liberal governors not doing anything in the other three SW border states.
LOL...are you saying those "liberal" governors can't set their own state border policy the way you think TX can?

The hypocrisy in this thread...
 
Immigation is codified by law as a federal issue. Specifically. You really can't have individual states making their own immigration rules, you know.
The constitution says the federal government must protect the states from invasion. Biden is not holding up his end of the constitution.

The constitution also says that when being invaded, some of the rules can be nullified and the states can protect themselves.

The border issue is an invasion at this point. The cartels are controlling the border, shipping drugs over, and human trafficking. Biden has claimed there is not an issue and until recently when he tried using the border to get more money to Ukraine, he has ignored the issue.
 
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The constitution says the federal government must protect the states from invasion. Biden is not holding up his end of the constitution.

The constitution also says that when being invaded, some of the rules can be nullified and the states can protect themselves.

The border issue is an invasion at this point. The cartels are controlling the border, shipping drugs over, and human trafficking. Biden has claimed there is not an issue and until recently when he tried using the border to get more money to Ukraine, he has ignored the issue.
The SC has said the Constitution confers unqualified sovereign authority over immigration to the federal govt.

Trump v. Hawaii, No. 17-965, slip op. at 30 (U.S. June 26, 2018) ( “For more than a century, this Court has recognized that the admission and exclusion of foreign nationals is a ‘fundamental sovereign attribute exercised by the Government’s political departments.’”

Fiallo v. Bell, 430 U.S. 787, 792 (1977)); Landon v. Plasencia, 459 U.S. 21, 32 (1982) ( “[T]he power to admit or exclude aliens is a sovereign prerogative.”

Nishimura Ekiu v. United States, 142 U.S. 651, 659 (1892); “It is an accepted maxim of international law that every sovereign nation has the power, as inherent in sovereignty, and essential to self-preservation, to forbid the entrance of foreigners within its dominions, or to admit them only in such cases and upon such conditions as it may see fit to prescribe.”

Perhaps you can quote the section of the Constitution that says states can defy the federal govt's sovereign authority in regard to immigration?
 
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You mean like those law breaking Sanctuary Cities do? Time to end those, correct? I mean...since you're all about not usurping the authority of the federal government and such.
Sanctuary cities do not violate federal laws.


 
The constitution says the federal government must protect the states from invasion. Biden is not holding up his end of the constitution.

The constitution also says that when being invaded, some of the rules can be nullified and the states can protect themselves.

The border issue is an invasion at this point. The cartels are controlling the border, shipping drugs over, and human trafficking. Biden has claimed there is not an issue and until recently when he tried using the border to get more money to Ukraine, he has ignored the issue.
Where does The Constitution say this? Exactly….Thanking you in advance…….
 
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The SC has said the Constitution confers unqualified sovereign authority over immigration to the federal govt.

Trump v. Hawaii, No. 17-965, slip op. at 30 (U.S. June 26, 2018) ( “For more than a century, this Court has recognized that the admission and exclusion of foreign nationals is a ‘fundamental sovereign attribute exercised by the Government’s political departments.’”

Fiallo v. Bell, 430 U.S. 787, 792 (1977)); Landon v. Plasencia, 459 U.S. 21, 32 (1982) ( “[T]he power to admit or exclude aliens is a sovereign prerogative.”

Nishimura Ekiu v. United States, 142 U.S. 651, 659 (1892); “It is an accepted maxim of international law that every sovereign nation has the power, as inherent in sovereignty, and essential to self-preservation, to forbid the entrance of foreigners within its dominions, or to admit them only in such cases and upon such conditions as it may see fit to prescribe.”

Perhaps you can quote the section of the Constitution that says states can defy the federal govt's sovereign authority in regard to immigration?
Immigration and invasion are different. The federal government has the authority to dictate immigration. They do not have the authority to allow the Mexican cartel to assist with human trafficking and the drug trade entering into a state.

There is evidence that China and ngo s are helping get people into the usa from across the world.

The usa has asylum laws where a person cannot seek asylum for economic reasons, but must be escaping persecution. Most of these people don't even meet asylum criteria.

All this boils down to is the federal government is willing allowing an invasion on the border, in this case, the Supreme Court rulings do not apply.
 
Immigration and invasion are different. The federal government has the authority to dictate immigration. They do not have the authority to allow the Mexican cartel to assist with human trafficking and the drug trade entering into a state.

There is evidence that China and ngo s are helping get people into the usa from across the world.

The usa has asylum laws where a person cannot seek asylum for economic reasons, but must be escaping persecution. Most of these people don't even meet asylum criteria.

All this boils down to is the federal government is willing allowing an invasion on the border, in this case, the Supreme Court rulings do not apply.
Do you have anything to back this up, Do You Own Research?
 
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Immigration and invasion are different. The federal government has the authority to dictate immigration. They do not have the authority to allow the Mexican cartel to assist with human trafficking and the drug trade entering into a state.

There is evidence that China and ngo s are helping get people into the usa from across the world.

The usa has asylum laws where a person cannot seek asylum for economic reasons, but must be escaping persecution. Most of these people don't even meet asylum criteria.

All this boils down to is the federal government is willing allowing an invasion on the border, in this case, the Supreme Court rulings do not apply.
You trying to invent a name for it doesn't make it constitutional. Now - quote the Constitutional section that says states can usurp the sovereign power of the federal govt. Put up or...well...you know the rest.
 
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The constitution says the federal government must protect the states from invasion. Biden is not holding up his end of the constitution.

The constitution also says that when being invaded, some of the rules can be nullified and the states can protect themselves.

The border issue is an invasion at this point. The cartels are controlling the border, shipping drugs over, and human trafficking. Biden has claimed there is not an issue and until recently when he tried using the border to get more money to Ukraine, he has ignored the issue.

Wow. Simply wow.
 
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