Taurasi got her 6th. Caitlin will now be lucky to go to three Olympic games.
CC met with the Yankees in NY. The Yankees were "star-struck". Caitlin would have been the most popular athlete in Paris behind Lebron, Biles, and Stephen.
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CC met with the Yankees in NY. The Yankees were "star-struck". Caitlin would have been the most popular athlete in Paris behind Lebron, Biles, and Stephen.
Posted for you quite a few times already. She leads the league in TOs. By a large margin.
Big liability with the physical play and defensive intensity in the Olympics. Major reason her team started the season 2-9.
In fact, the TOs have not improved from the first 6 games to the last 6. An aspect of her game she needs to iron out.
And this is how I know you don't watch the games. Good luck in this thread.. curious to see if it goes as long as the covid one. I'm out!
I've watched every televised game; her TOs were brutal early on (she already holds the WNBA season record).
You seem to have no response to that point.
We all have... multiple times. Now why won't you answer these:
Is 15/5/5 good? How many people average that in season?
Did her teammates negatively affect her turnovers and assists at all earlier in the year (and still)?
How did Griner and Gray do their first 11 games in comparion to CC?
Damn it, I said I wouldn't drawn back in to this thread and it lasted all of 14 seconds. You and Fran are like Sub-Zero and Scorpion
I wonder who will win the thread.
It really was a pathetic move to not capitalize on her star power. Really stupid, quite frankly. Only a complete moron would defend her exclusion from the Olympic roster. Hilarious these lezis are so jealous of her that they wouldn’t want to use this stage to promote the game globally. Instead they put out their classic awful brand of lady ballers who are unathletic and boring to watch.
No; you haven't.
Her early play was too error-prone to merit consideration. You continue to not focus on those stats, and instead post about her recent play.
Her "teammates" are responsible for her TOs?
If you want to compare other players to her, then post the numbers.
I've only been talking about the early season games. In those first 11 games you're so worried about, she averaged 17.3 points, 6.9 assists, and 5.5 rebounds per game. Is that good or no? How many players average that over the course of a year? How did Griner and Gray do in those 11 games?
First 6 games, 1.19 Assist/TO ratio.
Not stellar.
Her overall game rating in those games was nothing spectacular. In her last 6 games, overall game rating was well above many Team USA players. I've posted this for you quite a few times now, which is what Dawn Staley alluded to, and why I posted that interview.
I answered. You don't like the answer.
Her Game Efficiency in the first 6 games was a little more than 10 (again, TOs)
Nothing spectacular. Other guards on Team USA have ratings higher than that; some by quite a lot (>15).
Her last 6 games, that rating is >18, which is as good or better than most of the Team USA players.
If you bothered to watch Team USA Olympic games, TOs were a big problem against physical defenses. Same thing Clark has struggled with early on.
For those wondering, Clark averaged 16.1 points, 7.4 assists, and 6.0 rebounds per game in her first six games. Only one person has ever done that in the history of the WNBA over a full season (Alyssa Thomas).
And also for those wondering, Griner and Gray didn't play in the first 11 games of the season.
And also for those wondering, Griner and Gray didn't play in the first 11 games of the season.
We have all acknowledged that turnovers are something she needs to work on but to use that as your gotcha argument is laughable, especailly since we all watched her teammates fumbled 2-3 away a game and miss 2-3 layups a game from her amazing passes. How was Griner and Gray's assist to turnover ratio in those all important 6 games?
Goddddddd, the assist to turnover argument is so tired. I thought I was over this stupid stat when CMAC left but here we are.
No; it's reality.
Along with her not adjusting to the more physical WNBA play early on, and pleading her case to officials while her teammates were playing 2-on-4 at the other end while the other team got layups.
Olympic play was way more physical than what she saw in her first 10 games. You quit playing to cry to officials, and France beats you by 10. At least.
lol. You got it. They had no room for her to sit on the bench if she weren’t playing well. Not enough room for the biggest star in the history of the sport.
I’ve heard this topic brought up on several national sports talk radio shows over the last week. All were critical of the decision to exclude Clark from the Olympic roster. The fans and media largely think it was a big mistake and missed opportunity. And, that’s a big part of how this Olympic team will be remembered.
The team that left off Caitlin Clark, and barely won.
The team that left off Caitlin Clark, and barely won.
Probably a half dozen posters in this thread, cheering for them to lose, so they could gloat about it.
So anyway, now that its painfully obvious to a large majority of people that leaving her off the team was a complete joke, we can all move on and root for the rest of the way. Hopefully the WNBA doesn't mess anything else up this year, but we know that won't happen
"Many people are saying..."
Meanwhile, other idiots are claiming she should have had Griner's spot on the team (you), when the US's bigs were the difference in several of the games
Wait a second... so I thought it was her play in the first 11 or 6 games or whatever is the reason you don't think she should be on the team... but based on this comment it sounds like you don't think she's talented enough on the team at present day.. to the point where you think that CC on the floor would result in atleast an -11 point swing. LOL. Jfc.
Here I thought you were just playing devils advocate because you get off on it.. but it turns out you're just a hater. Whodathunk! Hilarious
Gotta love when we get to the roster construction portion of the argument of a team who's won 70 games in a row by like 30 a game. LOL
I will say she had a helluva game against the mighty Nigerians who had recently won their first Olympic game in 20 years
Feel free to share where I claimed that was ‘league-MVP-level’
If you can’t find that feel free to let us know that a Joe declared ‘league average’ player with a worse ratio than that made the team…..
‘An aspect of her game she needs to iron out.’
Looking for the next gem? Here it is
‘Water is wet’
‘Sun rises in the east’
Bravo, you unlocked the riddle. As bad as her turnovers were in your magical 6 games were….. her ratio was better than an Olympian.
I wonder, does an assist turn into at least two points?
Next I will ponder, does a turnover always lead to at least two points for the opposition? It doesn’t, and if the objective is to score more points than the other team…. Hmmmm.. decisions, decisions.
15/5/5……. ‘League average’ according to Joe. It’s why it’s happened so many times….. must be dozens heck hundreds who have done it.
Was that the interview where Staley said ‘she could get considered based on her recent play’
And you came up with ‘basically would make the team’?
That interview? Not sure with what you came up with that you should keep bringing that up. It isn’t one of your better moments.
‘Griner and Gray didn't play in the first 11 games of the season.’
They must have had good tryouts then………. Or…. Wait…. They hadn’t been turning the ball over. That must be it.
Which games and which bigs?
Sounds eerily similar to Christian Laetner and his role on the dream team.
That's debatable - certainly with those numbers she deserved serious consideration (which is what Staley alluded to). She started putting up really good numbers just before the break; she still has struggled against physical defenses, which is what she'd have faced in Paris. Unlikely she'd have taken a lot of minutes from Ionsecu, Copper, Plum or Gray.
You appear to acknowledge that she "shuts down" when facing physical defenses and feels like she is fouled. That's my biggest downside with her, and she wasn't going to get those calls in Paris.
France was all over the place on D, and the guards above (who have played against those types of defenses before) even struggled at times.
debatable. Lolz.
She is the present and the future of the sport globally. She is the closest thing to Michael Jordan that any female sport has ever produced in terms of impact. She has made an unwatchable product entertaining, all by herself. Her draw and interest is unprecedented in the history of women’s athletics. None of that is debatable.
There is no sound argument leaving her off this team. The marketing miss for the WNBA and women’s basketball globally is enormous. Laughable they chose not to use the Olympic platform to market the new league brand with younger players. It is rare to find a group so dumb and petty that they will kill a golden goose.
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It's certainly not Olympics-level. Which is why she stayed home.
Upside is she's had weeks to work on the weak aspects of her game and with her teammates, and will probably come out stronger in the 2nd half w/ adjustments made.
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