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The Elly De La Cruz era in Cincinnati has begun

fivecardstud14 said:
The only time you ever talk baseball is about the Cardinals. You don’t have the ability to talk any other team. You’d make a good Clone fan.
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You understand it's easier to steal bases than ever because of the rules changes, right dummy? I'm not that interested in most of the other teams, you're correct about that. Chris Carpenter? Yeah, I was in Philadelphia at the game the night he shut out the Phillies 1-0 to win the NLDS on their way to their 11 WS title, then on to College Park to watch Iowa lose to Penn State 3 - 13. Clown fan in your dreams...
 
jamesvanderwulf said:
You understand it's easier to steal bases than ever because of the rules changes, right dummy? I'm not that interested in most of the other teams, you're correct about that. Chris Carpenter? Yeah, I was in Philadelphia at the game the night he shut out the Phillies 1-0 to win the NLDS on their way to their 11 WS title, then on to College Park to watch Iowa lose to Penn State 3 - 13. Clown fan in your dreams...
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Lol, now you’re making up arguments on your own. Thanks for the reminder about the new rules & stolen bases. What’s next, are you going to tell me there’s a pitch clock? No way!

It’s no wonder Allen Craig doesn’t like you.
 
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jamesvanderwulf said:
I'm a tool cause I forgot more about baseball than you'll ever know? Hahaha...


Rule changes, timed pitches and larger bases ( shorter distance between bases ) have made it soooo much easier to steal. Ricky might have had a 100 steals by the all star game says Ricky...

15 home runs and 15 doubles? That's a big deal to you? Musial averaged 16 doubles by the all star break for 22 fricking years, including leading the league in hits 6x, doubles 8x and triples 5x. He did hit 465 home runs without even trying. Did he hit 15 before the break? Who knows? Meaningless stats like these only popped up after ESPN and Twitter clowns came on the scene...
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45 steals leads the NL by 16. 3rd place has 21. That's impressive. Yes, it's easier to steal, but it's still fun. Delayed steals don't happen often (see below).

De La Cruz is 2nd in the league in runs scored (behind Ohtani). He's 22 and fun and a SS. He's above league average in average, slugging, and OPS.

Not comparing him to all time greats (he's no Ernie Banks, yet). :)

 
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Joes Place said:
LMAO!!!

OPS is "not dependent on the hitter"?

Someone needs to look up what OPS means....
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If you were hitting, Joe, which I know you've never done, would you take an obvious ball? Walks are a big factor in OBP as well as OPS. Not hard, Cletus.
 
fivecardstud14 said:
You’re going to have to come up with some new ways to diss Cruz. We know you think he’s the worst player in the history of baseball, which is why it’s funny every time you comment on how much he sucks.
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So...yeah. I've already commented on his talent in this thread. Have I not?
 
Kinnick.At.Night said:
If you were hitting, Joe, which I know you've never done, would you take an obvious ball? Walks are a big factor in OBP as well as OPS.
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...that's dependent upon the hitter, Cletus.

In fact, LOTS of walks are drawn by hitters fouling off strikes, until the pitcher walks them.
Man, you are one idiotic MoFo when it comes to understanding baseball basics.
 
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Kinnick.At.Night said:
If you were hitting, Joe, which I know you've never done, would you take an obvious ball? Walks are a big factor in OBP as well as OPS. Not hard, Cletus.
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Two batters have .250 averages.

One has a .350 OBP
Other one has a .277 OBP


Which is the better hitter?
(this is not hard)
 
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Joes Place said:
...that's dependent upon the hitter, Cletus.

In fact, LOTS of walks are drawn by hitters fouling off strikes, until the pitcher walks them.
Man, you are one idiotic MoFo when it comes to understanding baseball basics.
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Nice try, Joe. I'll stick with batting average as being the superior metric. Thanks.
 
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Kinnick.At.Night said:
At a rate of .262? Thrilled.
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He has a .353 OBP

Maybe Bleacher Report can 'Mansplain' for you why that's important:

To show an example on this comparison of statistics, two ballplayers who play the same position but have drastically different approaches will be examined: Robinson Cano (Yankees 2B) and BJ Upton (Devil Rays 2B/CF). Both have somewhat similar batting averages this season - despite a slow start, Cano is hitting .263 while Upton is at a clip of .271. The difference between batting averages is less than 1 hit per 100 at bats, so they are nearly the same. When comparing their on base percentages, though, a huge difference is discovered. Cano, who almost never walks, has an on base percentage of just .298, way below the major league average of .330. Upton, on the other hand, carries a .381 on base percentage. So although the two reach base almost exactly the same amount on hits, Upton reaches base nearly 1 more time every 10 at bats than Cano simply because he is willing to take a few strikes in order to draw monumentally more walks.
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On Base Percentage Vs. Batting Average: Which Is More Important?

Since the beginning of baseball, one stat has reigned supreme over all others: the batting average. Simply put, the best hitters are always considered to be those who possess the highest...
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Joes Place said:
He has a .353 OBP

Maybe Bleacher Report can 'Mansplain' for you why that's important:

To show an example on this comparison of statistics, two ballplayers who play the same position but have drastically different approaches will be examined: Robinson Cano (Yankees 2B) and BJ Upton (Devil Rays 2B/CF). Both have somewhat similar batting averages this season - despite a slow start, Cano is hitting .263 while Upton is at a clip of .271. The difference between batting averages is less than 1 hit per 100 at bats, so they are nearly the same. When comparing their on base percentages, though, a huge difference is discovered. Cano, who almost never walks, has an on base percentage of just .298, way below the major league average of .330. Upton, on the other hand, carries a .381 on base percentage. So although the two reach base almost exactly the same amount on hits, Upton reaches base nearly 1 more time every 10 at bats than Cano simply because he is willing to take a few strikes in order to draw monumentally more walks.
bleacherreport.com

On Base Percentage Vs. Batting Average: Which Is More Important?

Since the beginning of baseball, one stat has reigned supreme over all others: the batting average. Simply put, the best hitters are always considered to be those who possess the highest...
bleacherreport.com bleacherreport.com
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Didn't read.
 
EDLC is still learning the game. He’s 22 years old and this is really only his fourth year of professional coaching. He played zero organized baseball in 2020 because COVID forced the cancellation of the minor league schedule. So instead he and some friends in the Dominican Republic traveled from one city to another playing pickup games.

He has just over one full season in the big league under his belt and he has a 162-game average of 25 HR, 72 RBI, and 69 SB. And he’s only going to get better. He’s a 6’5” shortstop with elite speed and a rocket arm and he can hit for power from both sides of the plate. He’s going to be a star for many years.
 
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TJ8869 said:
EDLC is still learning the game. He’s 22 years old and this is really only his fourth year of professional coaching. He played zero organized baseball in 2020 because COVID forced the cancellation of the minor league schedule. So instead he and some friends in the Dominican Republic traveled from one city to another playing pickup games.

He has just over one full season in the big league under his belt and he has a 162-game average of 25 HR, 72 RBI, and 69 SB. And he’s only going to get better. He’s a 6’5” shortstop with elite speed and a rocket arm and he can hit for power from both sides of the plate. He’s going to be a star for many years on another team...
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Time to sell him off, Bro. But, at least you have a bad team that isn't costing $230 million this year versus my Cubs.
 
lucas80 said:
Time to sell him off, Bro. But, at least you have a bad team that isn't costing $230 million this year versus my Cubs.
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He’s not eligible for FA until 2029. Right now the Reds are reaping the benefits of being the only team in MLB that even offered him a contract. Just let me be happy for 4 more years and then I’ll have plenty of time to be pissed off about him signing with the Dodgers in ‘29.
 
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Joes Place said:
But you were just claiming that OPS stat doesn't matter.

Seems like you're waffling all over the place now.
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Never claimed that, Joe. I claimed that batting average is a better statistical analysis of a hitter's ability than OPS. And entirely because of OBP.
 
Kinnick.At.Night said:
Never claimed that, Joe. I claimed that batting average is a better statistical analysis of a hitter's ability than OPS.
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Except you just posted that it's not, when you bashed a guy w/ a higher average for "not hitting for power".

His OPS is "league average" at .707.
EDLC is at almost .850

Ergo: OPS literally shows you that EDLC "hits for more power".

EDLC also has a higher OBP than Fraley: .353 vs .332 (2nd highest on the team)
You can't score runs when you don't get on base.

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Batting average is a very limiting statistic of a batter's actual abilities and value as a hitter.
 
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