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The Libs are going to love Dawn Staley. Lisa Bluder not so much.

I’m just curious why the one and only defense I read for biological males in women’s sports is that the numbers are so low (right now) that it’s therefore a “nonissue.”

Either there’s a justification for it or there is not. If there’s no justification for it, then one is too many.
 
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Of course, we can always make a mountain out of a molehill…….Personally, I think Iowa winters ought to be much warmer and feature more sunshine and blue skies. Doesn’t mean I am an advocate of climate change….or does it?

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I’m just curious why the one and only defense I read for biological males in women’s sports is that the numbers are so low (right now) that it’s therefore a “nonissue.”

Either there’s a justification for it or there is not. If there’s no justification for it, then one is too many.
This is ridiculous. There will never be a zero number on any issue. There will never be a zero number on duck attacks. Does that mean that we need states like Iowa passing law after law against duck attacks? At a certain point you have to look at an issue with numbers this low and conclude that's it's not important to worry about in a national level.
 
It's actually the reverse. Your position disrespects women by using them as political pawns for a made up issue. Women don't need your fake help. They are setting records without you.
I don’t know where to begin in ripping this to shreds it’s so stupid.

Since you like the numbers game so much and claim to be “scientific” in your approach to this issue, do you believe the majority of biological women competing in NCAA sports would agree with you or Northern? Second, do you believe Title IX is good or bad?

Don’t obfuscate. Don’t deflect. Answer those two specific questions.
 
This is ridiculous. There will never be a zero number on any issue. There will never be a zero number on duck attacks. Does that mean that we need states like Iowa passing law after law against duck attacks? At a certain point you have to look at an issue with numbers this low and conclude that's it's not important to worry about in a national level.
Again, obfuscation doesn’t work or bolster your non answer. You can’t pose absurd hypotheticals like “duck attacks” and claim it’s other people’s takes that are “ridiculous.”
 
I don’t know where to begin in ripping this to shreds it’s so stupid.

Since you like the numbers game so much and claim to be “scientific” in your approach to this issue, do you believe the majority of biological women competing in NCAA sports would agree with you or Northern? Second, do you believe Title IX is good or bad?

Don’t obfuscate. Don’t deflect. Answer those two specific questions.
What's the point of answering any of your questions? You'll just ignore what I say.

You have with the number of trans athletes. There's virtually none. You have with their advantages after years of transitioning. Science can't prove any. Testosterone levels, muscle strength, they both disappear to cis women levels after two years.

You're not looking for an honest discussion. You're looking for affirmation on a hate filled and bigoted phobia against trans people.
 
Again, obfuscation doesn’t work or bolster your non answer. You can’t pose absurd hypotheticals like “duck attacks” and claim it’s other people’s takes that are “ridiculous.”
32 trans athletes out of 400,000. This isn't a serious problem. And if you think it is you aren't a serious person.
 
So you're the liar then. @TylerJ23 this is what you get when you side with an idiot
Link to me lying?

Again, Huey, this is what you do. You deflect, lie, obfuscate, and project.

You still have not provided a link to back up your lie that I claimed transgender women in NCAA sports is “everywhere.” All you have done is link an article that, again, I did not write. And despite the fact you have been proven wrong over and over again, you continue to double, triple, and quadruple down on your lie. When are you going to stop projecting, Huey?

Last, yes, it is not relevant to the question. Because the question is whether there is ever justification for biological men competing in women’s sports, as clearly outlined in Title IX as a violation of the law. You continuing to parrot “there’s hardly any trans women in sports” is not only not a cogent argument it’s completely irrelevant to the question.

So, once again, do you have a compelling case for why biological men should be allowed to compete against women or don’t you? Poop or get off the pot.
 
Link to me lying?

Again, Huey, this is what you do. You deflect, lie, obfuscate, and project.

You still have not provided a link to back up your lie that I claimed transgender women in NCAA sports is “everywhere.” All you have done is link an article that, again, I did not write. And despite the fact you have been proven wrong over and over again, you continue to double, triple, and quadruple down on your lie. When are you going to stop projecting, Huey?

Last, yes, it is not relevant to the question. Because the question is whether there is ever justification for biological men competing in women’s sports, as clearly outlined in Title IX as a violation of the law. You continuing to parrot “there’s hardly any trans women in sports” is not only not a cogent argument it’s completely irrelevant to the question.

So, once again, do you have a compelling case for why biological men should be allowed to compete against women or don’t you? Poop or get off the pot.
I said that trans competing virtually never happens. But on the very very very off chance it does, the governing sports body overseeing that particular sport should handle it.

In the meantime endless threads and laws about this is stupid. People like you and our governor need to talk about something else for a change.
 
Okay, I have my answer. You’re going to avoid my questions and continue to project your nonsense onto me. Thank you for confirming what I, and any rational person following this discussion, already know.

We’re done here.
Oh we're done. You being unable to face the reality that 32 athletes out of 4000,00 isn't a real problem made us done a long time ago.
 
In the meantime endless threads and laws about this is stupid. People like you and our governor need to talk about something else for a change.
Perfect. You admit you are wrong and that your real response is you don’t like the discussion because it hurts your feelings and that everyone should just change the channel. Excellent. You have just beautifully encapsulated liberalism.

I accept your surrender. Good day, Huey.
 
What was the polling on integration of the military in 1939? What was the polling on gay marriage in 1968? When Stephen Miller in a second Trump Administration issues executive orders against trans citizens holding certain jobs you’ll totally be there for them, right? When Miller says no insurance company / hospital that accepts federal funds can provide gender affirming care you’ll be there to raise your voice, right?
All I did was point out that the right talks about trans in sports a lot because it is an issue that they feel is a win for them. Most people agree with the conservative opinion on it. So, they hold it over the left’s heads.

Compared it to how it’s always the left bringing up J6, because they see it as something that makes them better than the right and they miss no opportunity to hold it over their heads. I was using this as an EXAMPLE.

The fact that you thought I was equating them is on you. The post quoted above and the complete jump to conclusions is on you. The desire to turn everything into a purity test is on you. How does your brain jump to “What was polling in 1938 about integration? Are YOU going to be there when Stephen Miller takes away their rights?” Like, can we just talk about the topic of the thread?
 
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Perfect. You admit you are wrong and that your real response is you don’t like the discussion because it hurts your feelings and that everyone should just change the channel. Excellent. You have just beautifully encapsulated liberalism.

I accept your surrender. Good day, Huey.
You sure your feelings arent hurt? You've been taking every post and link in this thread as a personal attack.
 
As an example, I would bet 90%, probably 99% or more of the original posts on this board on this topic are from cons. Virtually always brainless "outrage" spam.

Most real liberals only think or talk about this 'issue" in response to the constant mewling about it from MAGA Trumper's like you. As I am in this thread.
Do you think men and women’s competition should be separate?
If so, why?
 
Probably because you claimed he said something he never said, then called him a liar.
My feelings aren’t hurt.

In order for them to be hurt, I would have to expect better of Huey, or care what an anonymous person on a message board thought of me. I don’t.

Huey challenged me to a debate, tried to lie and obfuscate his way through it, and I still smoked him. Simple as that.
 
My feelings aren’t hurt.

In order for them to be hurt, I would have to expect better of Huey, or care what an anonymous person on a message board thought of me. I don’t.

Huey challenged me to a debate, tried to lie and obfuscate his way through it, and I still smoked him. Simple as that.

I was just implying all he's done is personally attack you, and can't seem to understand why you're defending yourself.
 
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You lose all credibility when you lie, Huey.
Where did I say this is happening everywhere? Please link it for all to see.

Save yourself the time, Huey. You won’t find anything. This is yet another example of how you lie and twist the facts to suit your agenda. And it’s reprehensible. Stop lying. It doesn’t serve your cause at all.
Again, you’re a liar, Huey. Nothing but lie after lie after lie. Donald Trump is starting to blush because of your lies.

This issue is equity and fairness in women’s sports. Period.

1. Huey lies.
2. Huey projects.
3. Huey obfuscates or deflects.

Huey rinses and repeats.
Link to me lying?

Again, Huey, this is what you do. You deflect, lie, obfuscate, and project.

You still have not provided a link to back up your lie that I claimed transgender women in NCAA sports is “everywhere.” All you have done is link an article that, again, I did not write. And despite the fact you have been proven wrong over and over again, you continue to double, triple, and quadruple down on your lie. When are you going to stop projecting, Huey?

Last, yes, it is not relevant to the question. Because the question is whether there is ever justification for biological men competing in women’s sports, as clearly outlined in Title IX as a violation of the law. You continuing to parrot “there’s hardly any trans women in sports” is not only not a cogent argument it’s completely irrelevant to the question.

So, once again, do you have a compelling case for why biological men should be allowed to compete against women or don’t you? Poop or get off the pot.
Perfect. You admit you are wrong and that your real response is you don’t like the discussion because it hurts your feelings and that everyone should just change the channel. Excellent. You have just beautifully encapsulated liberalism.

I accept your surrender. Good day, Huey.
My feelings aren’t hurt.

In order for them to be hurt, I would have to expect better of Huey, or care what an anonymous person on a message board thought of me. I don’t.

Huey challenged me to a debate, tried to lie and obfuscate his way through it, and I still smoked him. Simple as that.
I was just implying all he's done is personally attack you, and can't seem to understand why you're defending yourself.
@TylerJ23 these are @RagnarLothbrok responses to my posts. All he's done is personally attack me. Not to mention he and you keep avoiding the point that this problem is virtually non existent. Seems to me that both of you are basing your opinions on feelings and not facts.
 
@TylerJ23 these are @RagnarLothbrok responses to my posts. All he's done is personally attack me. Not to mention he and you keep avoiding the point that this problem is virtually non existent. Seems to me that both of you are basing your opinions on feelings and not facts.

Again, you made a statement about him that was a lie.

You were asked to back up your statement and just avoided it.

You're a liar.
 
Huey challenged me to a debate, tried to lie and obfuscate his way through it, and I still smoked him. Simple as that.

The Libs are going to love Dawn Staley. Lisa Bluder not so much.​

From the guy who started a thread that was titled based on the imaginary liberals in his head.

Yeah, you may be smoking something.
 
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All I did was point out that the right talks about trans in sports a lot because it is an issue that they feel is a win for them. Most people agree with the conservative opinion on it. So, they hold it over the left’s heads.

Compared it to how it’s always the left bringing up J6, because they see it as something that makes them better than the right and they miss no opportunity to hold it over their heads. I was using this as an EXAMPLE.

The fact that you thought I was equating them is on you. The post quoted above and the complete jump to conclusions is on you. The desire to turn everything into a purity test is on you. How does your brain jump to “What was polling in 1938 about integration? Are YOU going to be there when Stephen Miller takes away their rights?” Like, can we just talk about the topic of the thread?
The right talks about this because fear and bigotry work. The right talks about this because it's easy to activate people with lies about a small, marginalized group who lack power in a society. The right talks about this because they stepped in it on abortion, and they are running a guy who raped a woman and is finally paying for it, who staged a coup, who is under criminal indictment, and who was utterly dysfunctional for four years.
Finally, to the bolded part, I'll take that as a no from you. If you cannot talk about the subject in the thread, then that is on you. This is where the anti trans bigots are headed. So, when do you say enough?
 
Regularly? Yes. There are dozens of NCAA trans athletes. Often? That is a relative term, which is why I avoided it. The point is, it’s a bit absurd to claim “there is virtually no risk that any woman will face a transgender opponent” given the fact that is has occurred at the highest level and happens, yes, regularly. On any given day somewhere a biological female faces a biological male in an athletic event.
Who cares if it isn't often
The question is , is it right?
 
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Ultimately sports authorities need to draw a line somewhere so I may actually agree with the right for once. However this seems like hypothetical outrage and is definitely making a mountain out of a molehill as is almost every trans issue.

Draw a line- this ok, that not and move on. Whatever happened to the conservative idea of minding one’s own business? Look at the idiot wearing a mask in their car! Oh no a man is trying to look like a woman!
 
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