Nothing eventful happened during all this so not a big deal,... Really bad form for the Biden administration though..
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Its not a surprise old Crazy Don would weigh in, but nobody cares.
Biden will not fire Pentagon chief Austin, Trump calls for removal
Honestly, this whole thing is about as tempest-in-a-teapot as you can possibly get. Yeah. the comms should have been better, but it should not be a cause celebre.
That said, it also sorta underscores that all of the kvetching about that knucklehead Senator placing holds on heads of armed service branches really is pretty much just kvetching.
This liberal is outraged about it.Imagine the liberal outrage if this was a Republican.
Simply stated, in either case, the military (shockingly!) seems to have some sort of functional continuity of operations plan in place, and strategy, tactics, and ops are not in fact that dependent on the participation of the highest level staff (who as a practical matter have to spend most of their time on political admin anyway).Lol at the leap in logic via the Sec Def's several day - in the dark - hospital stay and Tuberville's out in the open, impacting hundreds over a span of months. For the amusement of the board, please make the case.
Simply stated, in either case, the military (shockingly!) seems to have some sort of functional continuity of operations plan in place, and strategy, tactics, and ops are not in fact that dependent on the participation of the highest level staff (who as a practical matter have to spend most of their time on political admin anyway).
Now if I may, i'D ask that you remind me of what significant strategic, tactical, or operational tragedy we've suffered in either case...
Thanks, considerably less funny than I anticipated, although I suspect you're used to underwhelming in that regard. I do appreciate that your logic is simply since you don't perceive a bad outcome then there's no problem at all. "Ooops, we let our nukes get stolen, but since we got them back, no big deal, carry on".
I some how read your first comment to mean that you thought the Sec Def matter and the Senate matter were some how comparable in facts, nature and circumstances, so similar that a conclusion in one would apply to other. Turns out you just meant that they were both matters regarding the military where to your knowledge nothing of significant strategic, tactical, or organizational tragedy occurred. Of course, who cares if it did occur? We don't need those hundreds of leadership positions since the military seems to have some sort of functional continuity of operations!
Yeah I guess that's kind of my point. This is nothing, but really only a big deal because Rs see a political opportunity. Not saying Ds would be any different, I just think objectively it's not a big deal.Imagine the liberal outrage if this was a Republican.
To be clear, it's not that it's strictly outcome determinative, it's that in either case it's highly unlikely to be outcome determinative because beaurocracies - be they government, business, educational or otherwise - keep on keepin on regardless of who's at the helm, sometimes because of redundancy and sometimes in spite of it. Indeed, you could probably even say that about presidents, in both good ways and bad.
Obviously the two situations are very different factual scenarios but their commonality is that both entail political bullshit (by Tuberville in one case, and by a right media trying to gin up a lame election year controversy).
A final note for your comedic interest - the mystery of the Secretary's rehospitalization has an all too familiar ring from my law school torts class Federal Torts Claims Act unit, in which it seemed as though one of the prerequisites to being an army surgeon was to leave sponges in the patient.
I kind of agree but I think when you take a job with level of importance there has to be a higher level of transparency.Yeah I guess that's kind of my point. This is nothing, but really only a big deal because Rs see a political opportunity. Not saying Ds would be any different, I just think objectively it's not a big deal.
Not the end of the world but it's kind of a big deal.Yeah I guess that's kind of my point. This is nothing, but really only a big deal because Rs see a political opportunity. Not saying Ds would be any different, I just think objectively it's not a big deal.
Not a big deal huh, you don’t think it represents a reflection of the culture of the administration. We as taxpayers pay his salary, and he wasn’t competent enough to have a plan in place leading up to this medical procedure…or then competent enough to communicate several days after his procedure when he became aware he was going into the hospital. But nothing happened during this time so nothing to see here…that’s a weak expectation to have for our government. Kind of like when the secretary of transportation went on paternity leave for several weeks (or was it months) and nobody even knew. What an amazing administration this clown has put together…let’s go Brandon.Yeah I guess that's kind of my point. This is nothing, but really only a big deal because Rs see a political opportunity. Not saying Ds would be any different, I just think objectively it's not a big deal.
Someone had sex when, where, who they weren't supposed too. Just guessing.
Obviously, Austin's absence was not handled well. However, I do not see it as a firing offense unless there are other issues we are not aware of. As to your comment about Biden's administration, you have to be kidding, especially considering the chaos and incompetence we saw during Trump's administration.Not a big deal huh, you don’t think it represents a reflection of the culture of the administration. We as taxpayers pay his salary, and he wasn’t competent enough to have a plan in place leading up to this medical procedure…or then competent enough to communicate several days after his procedure when he became aware he was going into the hospital. But nothing happened during this time so nothing to see here…that’s a weak expectation to have for our government. Kind of like when the secretary of transportation went on paternity leave for several weeks (or was it months) and nobody even knew. What an amazing administration this clown has put together…let’s go Brandon.
I was thinking penis enlargement, but your explanation is a little more reasonable.So...what are the odds Lloyd had a tummy tuck gone wrong?
It's a really weird and strange situation.I was thinking penis enlargement, but your explanation is a little more reasonable.
Either way, this is dereliction of duty and should be dealt with accordingly.
It's a really weird and strange situation.
After listening Leon Panetta talk about it....it's pretty flabbergasting this happened and a dereliction of duty on Austin's part.
I think it'd behoove the administration to fast track the inquiry into this and just come clean with the findings. If Austin has to go he has to go. Slow walking it in the hopes it goes away would be a mistake.Especially for a career officer like him. More than anyone else in the cabinet almost he should know and respect the need to maintain the chain of command.
I still have so many questions behind all this and with all the ass-covering going on who knows if we will learn anything any time soon.
WSJ said today that Austen is known for being “intensely private” but it’s puzzling to me that he didn’t quietly notify the President directly and thus this incident goes away?
Prostate cancer.So...what are the odds Lloyd had a tummy tuck gone wrong?
I think it'd behoove the administration to fast track the inquiry into this and just come clean with the findings. If Austin has to go he has to go. Slow walking it in the hopes it goes away would be a mistake.
Prostate cancer.
But I hope you enjoy being a dickhead mocking him.
He absolutely should have and it appears changes are being made to ensure it doesn't happen again.I think it'd behoove the administration to fast track the inquiry into this and just come clean with the findings. If Austin has to go he has to go. Slow walking it in the hopes it goes away would be a mistake.
My bad.
PC is what got my Daddy. My brother got his caught very early and is in good health.
PC is what got my Daddy. My brother got his caught very early and is in good health.
Austen May have mistakenly thought he had a right to keep it private because of HIPPA but apparently social media disagrees. 🤨
This isn't even a point of discussion if he did what he was supposed to do.I mean, I agree for the initial procedure at least. My objection comes when he got hospitalized.
Still could have notified his Boss - the President. And today we’d be reading press releases telling us about his recovery process and a quote from the WH wishing him a speedy recovery and noting an excellent prognosis.I mean, I agree for the initial procedure at least. My objection comes when he got hospitalized.