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Blind Pig Finds Acorn!

For one of the few times in recorded history, my scotus predictions have panned out. As I noted the other day, i had a sneaking suspicion after reading the briefs that they might actually grant the stay in the Virginia litigation, which they did a few minutes ago.


At the end of the day, this should be very unlikely to affect outcomes in any material way, as the 'scrubbed' motor-voter registrations were persons who self identified as noncitizens and had an opportunity to contest which they didn't exercise, and were thus ineligible and probably (I would hope) very unlikely to "actually" vote even if registered.
 
Did you miss the story about the wealthy Trump fanboys buying up all the Polymarket contracts to boost his numbers?

I did miss that. I knew the Rs were commissioning polls that would show Trump ahead. So that they could argue after they lose that the election was rigged because the polls showed them ahead.

I imagine betting up Trump on Polymarket can be used in the same way.

It's actually rather clever - if you don't give a damn about honesty or democracy.
 
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I did miss that. I knew the Rs were commissioning polls that would show Trump ahead. So that they could argue after they lose that the election was rigged because the polls showed them ahead.

I imagine betting up Trump on Polymarket can be used in the same way.

It's actually rather clever - if you don't give a damn about honesty or democracy.
Classic authoritarian playbook move.
 
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I did miss that. I knew the Rs were commissioning polls that would show Trump ahead. So that they could argue after they lose that the election was rigged because the polls showed them ahead.

I imagine betting up Trump on Polymarket can be used in the same way.

It's actually rather clever - if you don't give a damn about honesty or democracy.

Polls are not, and never will be, evidence of any voter fraud.
That was the case in 2020 with >60 "claims" tossed and will be true in 2024.

They will, however, incite idiots to commit crimes on behalf of those who lie to them about the election results.
 
I was thinking about buying some Kamala shares on Polymarket, but apparently you can't if you are an American. Why is that?

If money is speech, surely I should be able to bet however I want.
 
I was thinking about buying some Kamala shares on Polymarket, but apparently you can't if you are an American. Why is that?
Because it is not any form of "poll", it is propaganda run by oligarchs and international interests. Not American interests.

They will absolutely use Polymarket information to claim fraud in November/December. They are currently using it to draw voters to Trump, who will mindlessly join the alleged "bandwagon". Lots of voters are swayed by this kind of stuff who do not dig into actual issues.
 
Because it is not any form of "poll", it is propaganda run by oligarchs and international interests. Not American interests.

They will absolutely use Polymarket information to claim fraud in November/December. They are currently using it to draw voters to Trump, who will mindlessly join the alleged "bandwagon". Lots of voters are swayed by this kind of stuff who do not dig into actual issues.
It's a betting site. Who cares who runs it, if I just want to place a bet and am willing to take the risk?
 
No; they cannot be evidence of fraud. Only identifying fraudulent votes is evidence of fraud.

You could certainly use them to determine where to LOOK for fraud. However, they provide zero evidence of it.
That's an interesting argument, but stats have been used as proof before - as for example in Brown v Board of Ed.

It shouldn't work in this case because the paid-for positive Trump polls shouldn't be considered good enough evidence to be admitted. But it isn't hard to imagine a different scenario with high quality polls that could sway a court.
 
Trump - authoritarian rule, will attack the media, will imprison media negative to him, wants to set up encampments for illegals and going door to door looking for them WWII Germany style. Wants tariffs on everything, hell even musk said would break the economy, but something great would be born out of the ash, will give Ukraine to Putin, willing to sell out anything for his own gain,

Harris - for equality, free speech, wants to help the middle class, new business owners, improve the border remember trump killed the bill Wants us to be respected by our allies

The choice seems clear

edit: They won't let you post the word N.A.Z.I.
 
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55 million votes in and women keep expanding their lead over men. Donny's done.
Does your source break down the gender demographics per state?

If Kamala can win Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, then I will agree Donnie is done. She wouldn’t need a single state among Arizona, NC, or Georgia should that happen.
 
It's a betting site. Who cares who runs it, if I just want to place a bet and am willing to take the risk?
It’s not technically a betting site. It is a futures market like a commodity exchange and they did not get the appropriate registration with the US government for that.

There are other sites that registered appropriately where Americans can put their money,
 
I think that polls may have a small effect late in the race because some may say it won’t make a difference how I vote so why bother, or it could create a minor bandwagon thing - heck everyone else is choosing this candidate and I want to be with the other winners.
I don’t think it’s good evidence of fraud.
 
I think that polls may have a small effect late in the race because some may say it won’t make a difference how I vote so why bother, or it could create a minor bandwagon thing - heck everyone else is choosing this candidate and I want to be with the other winners.
I don’t think it’s good evidence of fraud.
Polls are zero evidence of fraud. Unless you're Bonespurs, worrying about losing already, and getting your excuses lined up in a row. In order to rile up the cult when you lose.
 
It's a betting site. Who cares who runs it

You do not appear to understand the issues here.

it is run by adversarial foreign powers, trying to influence our election, and trying to give Trump and his followers justification to make false claims if he loses.

That's actually a very very big deal.
 
I live on the outskirts of and work in CR.
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Considering I would vote for a Rhesus macaque with Trisomy 21 over Trump I would say this is pretty encouraging. Keep up the good work Joe!
What happened to you? How can someone so anti-Trump post 2020 election find something redeeming in the man now?

I know you are an RFK fanboy, but does his hypocrisy at switching sides mean you can no longer think for yourself? Aren’t you anti-vax people are always saying “do your own research”? I guess that doesn’t apply when your idols tell you what to think.
 
That's an interesting argument, but stats have been used as proof before

Rigged/weighted polls are not "stats".

Particularly when other polls (which are balanced) say otherwise, and ones rigged the opposite way state the opposite.

They are not, nor will they ever be "evidence" for voter fraud.
 
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