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The race is breaking



Part of me is thinking we might get a blowout (electoral college), but I don't know which way...how likely is it that the polls are super accurate...
 
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I just hope this drives turnout and the bozos who can’t seem to use equipment that tallies accurately at modern speed get off their duffs and give us results before Thursday.
 
I just hope this drives turnout and the bozos who can’t seem to use equipment that tallies accurately at modern speed get off their duffs and give us results before Thursday.
Do you want accurate or expedient results, mom? State laws and counting procedures make whatever all want damn near impossible… abd then there will be all the appeals and contested ballots/ conspiracies to sort out. To have a result “known” by Thursday isn’t really a bad thing. As long as the loser accepts tge results and they don’t drag on 4 more years.
Sometimes, someone just loses an election. Any “skullduggery” is sponsored by the individual state…and local voting officials. Sadly, too many (Red) states have spent the past 4 years muddying the electoral waters making delays and conspiracies more of a reality.
 
I just hope this drives turnout and the bozos who can’t seem to use equipment that tallies accurately at modern speed get off their duffs and give us results before Thursday.
If you want "earlier" results, you probably should not promote Republicans who legally bar precincts from county ANY early votes until after the election is over.

Along with ones like Georgia that are requiring "hand counts" over machine-fed counters that are far faster and much more accurate.

Are you listening to yourself here?
 
I just hope this drives turnout and the bozos who can’t seem to use equipment that tallies accurately at modern speed get off their duffs and give us results before Thursday.
I know of 3 states that have newer high speed equipment that will cut down the time by half, of having the totals. Penna, Georgia and Mich. Any other states , no idea.
 
Do you want accurate or expedient results, mom? State laws and counting procedures make whatever all want damn near impossible… abd then there will be all the appeals and contested ballots/ conspiracies to sort out. To have a result “known” by Thursday isn’t really a bad thing. As long as the loser accepts tge results and they don’t drag on 4 more years.
Sometimes, someone just loses an election. Any “skullduggery” is sponsored by the individual state…and local voting officials. Sadly, too many (Red) states have spent the past 4 years muddying the electoral waters making delays and conspiracies more of a reality.

Red states are intentionally delaying vote counts, and putting in place archaic "hand counting" requirements which will delay totals by days, if not weeks, to complete.

This was done intentionally, to allow for weeks of false claims about election fraud, etc.

Vote for federal requirements that:

  • Early votes be counted each week as they come in, and stored for later recounts; results for each week can be locked and stored with the ballots under seal until after Election Day.
  • Early counts be kept confidential, under penalty of 25 yr imprisonment for leaking numbers
  • Machine ballot counters be required over hand counts to expedite results (states can hand count if they want, but they are required to run automated counters as a rule.
You do not enact these, you get $0 in federal funding.
 
I know of 3 states that have newer high speed equipment that will cut down the time by half, of having the totals. Penna, Georgia and Mich. Any other states , no idea.
IIRC, Georgia passed a law requiring hand counts; precluding the use of automated counters.
Also requiring precincts to report numbers in a timeframe that would make hand counts all but impossible to meet that deadline.

This would be by design, to deny Electoral votes to Harris if she wins, due to "incomplete counts".
 
IIRC, Georgia passed a law requiring hand counts; precluding the use of automated counters.
Also requiring precincts to report numbers in a timeframe that would make hand counts all but impossible to meet that deadline.

This would be by design, to deny Electoral votes to Harris if she wins, due to "incomplete counts".
That is exactly what they are doing in GA, and we just aren’t paying attention.
 
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Hopefully. I think this thing is coming down to PA. That one state will decide the election. Really wish Harris would have chosen Shapiro like many wanted.
It was absolutely stupid she didn’t.

I agree with you. Whoever wins Pennsylvania almost assuredly wins the election.
 
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I just hope this drives turnout and the bozos who can’t seem to use equipment that tallies accurately at modern speed get off their duffs and give us results before Thursday.
I wish it was like you said. But it’s going to be days later. They can’t count the early votes in Pennsylvania until Election Day. Given how many people are voting and that PA uses only mail in ballots for early voting that is A LOT of work.
 
If Trump gets 271 EC votes and loses the popular vote by 3% he will call it a blowout.
If Trump received 170 EC votes and lost the popular vote by 13%, he would still call it a blowout win for himself due to massive voter fraud.

I still cannot believe a large number of adults in our country can’t see through this absolute grifter and con artist. Even if Kamala wins, the fact this race is going to be close is absolutely depressing.
 
I'm not saying this is happening. I would definitely entertain the possibilities.

Meh.. Guys an idiot it looks like, but he’s just trying to make sure Trump supporters get out there and vote through fear mongering. Little does he know, the ones watching him have probably already voted. He’s not as effective as he might think he is.
 
Early vote is 66 million now in.

Interesting stats from the ones tracking party affiliation is over 25% of the voters are not affiliated with party. I think that is good sign for Harris. Also, for ones that track gender, women are outvoting men by 11%…..

What is SHOCKING to me is that based on the total number of people that voted for President in 2020 ...that 66 million early voters is nearly 45% of the 2020 total... with 2 more voting days before Nov 5th

I bet even Trump advisors would acknowledge that is not good news for them.
 
This thread makes me go up and down. One post says Trump is guaranteed to win than two posts later someone posts info that makes Harris is going to win on a landslide.

1. I want this election over.
2. I am so scared Trump is going to win.
One thing that helps is to compare how often those posting the "trump is going to win" posts have been right in the past.
 
He won't win. Women hate his ass and are out voting men by 10 points.
I posted in another thread that Mrs. spider (no pic) is voting for the very first time in 40-something years of life. She’s always been fairly politically engaged; however she is quite introverted and the fear of serving on a jury has always been a personal obstacle to her registering and voting.

This election, we agreed:
1. DJT cannot win (NE2 EV is up for grabs)
2. Initiative 439 must pass and 434 must be defeated (439 codifies right to legal abortion and 434 codifies a state abortion ban)
3. The initiative to repeal school voucher legislation must pass
4. Deb Fischer is vulnerable and Rs could potentially lose a senate seat
5. Jim Curtis, an evangelical preacher who essentially wants to Christianize public schools, cannot be elected to Millard Public School Board

So she’s voting. As an independent, btw. I wonder how many others might be like her.

And I wonder how many 40-50 year old men are out there who have never voted, but this time feel compelled to do so because illegals are eating cats in Ohio and trans high schoolers are competing in sports as girls. Maybe there are a bunch of them; I don’t know.
 
It might be but there is nothing out there suggesting this. All data points to Trump winning. I’ve been hesitant to embrace it but I think Trump wins and it might not be close. He even has an outside shot at winning the popular vote
Herky, I have been saying it over and over. The polls mean nothing at this point. After 2022, I will NEVER believe polls again.
 
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