The Raneys

[moug]

Switching gears a bit………..and I suspect “why not both” will be prevalent in the replies.

It’s been beaten like a dead horse that in order to catch up with PSU the recruiting needs to step up. With that said, why shouldn’t TnT focus on assistants who are great recruiters. Certainly TnT can’t ignore their role and this is a purposefully oversimplified statement. Just saying if recruiting is what matters most for team success, why are we so worried about having assistants who can roll when bringing in HWC talent is the simplest fix.

 

[fourbyfour69]

I agree Spooner but I have personally been around the guys I mention with the exception of guys from other programs.
I absolutely think Metcalf, Ramos, McD, Borschel and now Kemerer will/would make outstanding coaches. Corey C was always very quiet when I was around so I don't truly know much about him. StJohn same thing but it sounds like he is doing a great job in Ames.

I heard some big negatives about Coleman when Taylor was hired in Stillwater so I would be a no on him.

O'Toole from Missouri would be a kid the HWC should kick the tires on. He is dynamic and would be a great addition in Iowa City either on the staff or the HWC. I don't think we need to have someone prove they are a great coach before we reach out. If it doesn't work out, part ways and get someone else. Big names on the staff open doors to guys that our current staff don't get. The Iowa on the warmup is going to pull some, but great coaches and workout partners will bring in a few also.

O’Toole would be great but I am guessing Askren’s hate of Iowa will keep him away.

 

[HawkeyeInKC]

FFS

I’m sorry you had that surgery Spooner. Good luck with it.

 

[MSU158]

Switching gears a bit………..and I suspect “why not both” will be prevalent in the replies.

It’s been beaten like a dead horse that in order to catch up with PSU the recruiting needs to step up. With that said, why shouldn’t TnT focus on assistants who are great recruiters. Certainly TnT can’t ignore their role and this is a purposefully oversimplified statement. Just saying if recruiting is what matters most for team success, why are we so worried about having assistants who can roll when bringing in HWC talent is the simplest fix.

Rumor is M* is actually a key component to them landing their top recruits…

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

Rumor is M* is actually a key component to them landing their top recruits…

Because they want it to be that way doesn't make it so..... These kids come to Iowa City because of our fans, our facilities and our past, not for Ryan Morningstar.

 

[edquinn06]

Because they want it to be that way doesn't make it so..... These kids come to Iowa City because of our fans, our facilities and our past, not for Ryan Morningstar.

Seems to me the last two huge recruits have come cause of Terry recruiting them.
Lee and Bassett

 

[johnyt9]

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I agree Spooner but I have personally been around the guys I mention with the exception of guys from other programs.
I absolutely think Metcalf, Ramos, McD, Borschel and now Kemerer will/would make outstanding coaches. Corey C was always very quiet when I was around so I don't truly know much about him. StJohn same thing but it sounds like he is doing a great job in Ames.

I heard some big negatives about Coleman when Taylor was hired in Stillwater so I would be a no on him.

O'Toole from Missouri would be a kid the HWC should kick the tires on. He is dynamic and would be a great addition in Iowa City either on the staff or the HWC. I don't think we need to have someone prove they are a great coach before we reach out. If it doesn't work out, part ways and get someone else. Big names on the staff open doors to guys that our current staff don't get. The Iowa on the warmup is going to pull some, but great coaches and workout partners will bring in a few also.

oh, so you wrestled with @vhsalum back in the day?

 

[west2east]

Because they want it to be that way doesn't make it so..... These kids come to Iowa City because of our fans, our facilities and our past, not for Ryan Morningstar.

It's called building relationships that's what recruiters do. Who was at Bo house on every home visit ? Who was the one coach at Bo announcement in PA? His name is Morningstar. Not sure you know as much as you pretend to

 

[tigerhawk2015]

I agree with a lot of what you said. Here is my problem. Compare our staff to some other top teams. We don't compare. Tom and Terry were as good as anyone in the world. Were. Look at PSU's staff. Look at Okie State. Look at Nebraska and several others. Why couldn't Iowa go get a Tervel? Why couldn't Iowa get a Dake or a Taylor or a Nolf or.... Because of Tom and Terry. It is truly simple. Keep Tom, move Terry to HWC and hire 3 young hammers. The money is there and it would do amazing things for our team and for recruiting. Imagine Bassett training with Metcalf every day. Imagine Kueter and Ludington training with Taylor or Tervel. Imagine Ferrari, Kennedy and Gabe wrestling Kemerer every day. It's a no brainer and people would be upset but who cares if we all truly want to be on top again......

I agree with all of this except bringing Metcalf back. JMO

 

[HIWILLE]

I am with you on this WEH8.Glad you brought this up.

I agree with all of this except bringing Metcalf back. JMO

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

It's called building relationships that's what recruiters do. Who was at Bo house on every home visit ? Who was the one coach at Bo announcement in PA? His name is Morningstar. Not sure you know as much as you pretend to

C'mon man, anyone with the internet can get that information. Just because the twins keep sending M* because they are busy doesn't mean that Ryan is the reason Bo came. Hell, make him the recruiting coordinator. I know that position doesn't exist but with the size of our athletics dept there has to be a way to give him that job and get 3 young stud assistants.

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

Gable Steveson, dude is a freak and I think he likes our program and realizes that if he is going to make money wrestling it will have to be at a program like Iowa. He would be a good assistant and after he wins another National title and another gold medal every great heavy in the country would want to wrestle for him.

 

[drunkengoat]

Wait a minute,,, Spooner never wrestled???? 😳

I thought he wrestled in college with VHSAlum. Guaranteed if I wrestled in college we woulda won State.

 

[Slim45]

I thought he wrestled in college with VHSAlum. Guaranteed if I wrestled in college we woulda won State(s).

Fify…for the trolls out east anyway

 

[west2east]

C'mon man, anyone with the internet can get that information. Just because the twins keep sending M* because they are busy doesn't mean that Ryan is the reason Bo came. Hell, make him the recruiting coordinator. I know that position doesn't exist but with the size of our athletics dept there has to be a way to give him that job and get 3 young stud assistants.

Have you heard about revenue sharing in the NCAA 🤣🤣 add a position that's not happening

 

[west2east]

Gable Steveson, dude is a freak and I think he likes our program and realizes that if he is going to make money wrestling it will have to be at a program like Iowa. He would be a good assistant and after he wins another National title and another gold medal every great heavy in the country would want to wrestle for him.

Gable was offered a good amount to come to Iowa and he countered with a ridiculous amount and it ended there

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

Have you heard about revenue sharing in the NCAA 🤣🤣 add a position that's not happening

Minnesota used to have 8 administrative assistants.... 😂 🤷‍♂️

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

Gable was offered a good amount to come to Iowa and he countered with a ridiculous amount and it ended there

Hopefully we make a run at him for HWC and maybe an assistant position.

 

[TNTwrestle]

Minnesota used to have 8 administrative assistants.... 😂 🤷‍♂️

And they all had realtor licenses.

 

[MALOS]

Hopefully we make a run at him for HWC and maybe an assistant position.

I would go for Gable and Kemerer for the HWC

 

[DeangeloVickers]

I agree with a lot of what you said. Here is my problem. Compare our staff to some other top teams. We don't compare. Tom and Terry were as good as anyone in the world. Were. Look at PSU's staff. Look at Okie State. Look at Nebraska and several others. Why couldn't Iowa go get a Tervel? Why couldn't Iowa get a Dake or a Taylor or a Nolf or.... Because of Tom and Terry. It is truly simple. Keep Tom, move Terry to HWC and hire 3 young hammers. The money is there and it would do amazing things for our team and for recruiting. Imagine Bassett training with Metcalf every day. Imagine Kueter and Ludington training with Taylor or Tervel. Imagine Ferrari, Kennedy and Gabe wrestling Kemerer every day. It's a no brainer and people would be upset but who cares if we all truly want to be on top again......

As we've learned, personal accomplishments don't mean much when it comes to coaching, outside of Gable and Cael which are anomalies. In all honesty if you're looking at staffs based on their college and international achievements as individual wrestlers, Iowa isn't really much behind psu and combining TnT you could argue they're ahead.
Give me great coaches with solid resumes, great communication skills and recent name recognition is the winning combination.

 

[MALOS]

As we've learned, personal accomplishments don't mean much when it comes to coaching, outside of Gable and Cael which are anomalies. In all honesty if you're looking at staffs based on their college and international achievements as individual wrestlers, Iowa isn't really much behind psu and combining TnT you could argue they're ahead.
Give me great coaches with solid resumes, great communication skills and recent name recognition is the winning combination.

True. You just need the big names at the top who have been there and done that. These kids want role models. PSU has 2 full world teams in their room, Cael isn’t teaching them much. They just need motivation. We are finally on the right track.

Realistically, Spencer doing his thing and, IF he beats Ono will do more for our program than anything.

 

[Fan In Black]

we need to get the Rainees.

 

[MALOS]

we need to get the Rainees.

We need to get the Raneys as well as the Rainees 😂

Oh, and Mocco.

 

[Fan In Black]

We need to get the Raneys as well as the Rainees 😂

Oh, and Mocco.

the Mahcos would be amaz balls

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

And they all had realtor licenses.

Yes, yes they did.... 😂

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

As we've learned, personal accomplishments don't mean much when it comes to coaching, outside of Gable and Cael which are anomalies. In all honesty if you're looking at staffs based on their college and international achievements as individual wrestlers, Iowa isn't really much behind psu and combining TnT you could argue they're ahead.
Give me great coaches with solid resumes, great communication skills and recent name recognition is the winning combination.

I agree with most of this. Tom and Terry are too old to roll now. No one outside of Iowa knows Bob Telford, Dan Dennis or Ryan Morningstar. Spencer Lee, Gable Steveson and many others would give us everything we need.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Because they want it to be that way doesn't make it so..... These kids come to Iowa City because of our fans, our facilities and our past, not for Ryan Morningstar.

You go ahead and keep telling yourself that.

 

[MNR]

I think he likes our program

He likes messing with your program.

 

[texas twister]

Cael isn’t teaching them much.

How do you know this?

 

[MALOS]

How do you know this?

Because I just watched Sealy and Lillendahl’s last 2 matches

 

[edquinn06]

Because I just watched Sealy’s last 2 matches

I think the cut to 57 isn’t easy for Sealy. Kinda like Block he doesn’t have the same pop if he was at his ideal weight on 165.

 

[TNTwrestle]

I think the cut to 57 isn’t easy for Sealy. Kinda like Block he doesn’t have the same pop if he was at his ideal weight on 165.

Well, that sucks for him because Mess is at 165 for two more years unless he has a PSU "growing spurt".

 

[so cal hawkfan]

Well, that sucks for him because Mess is at 165 for two more years unless he has a PSU "growing spurt".

The Hawks could use a 165 lber in 2027……..

 

[HerkHawl]

How do you know this?

And Mirasolas. But Sealy will be a stud. For sure.

 

[Boomhawk52]

M* is a really good recruiter, end of this

 

[Herkylian]

The evolution of this thread from being about the Raneys to whatever this is, it's wild and autistic at the same time. God bless the cesspool of miasma 😂

 

[SPOONER]

Because I just watched Sealy and Lillendahl’s last 2 matches

Please. They are true freshmen.

 

[tiltman]

I agree with most of this. Tom and Terry are too old to roll now. No one outside of Iowa knows Bob Telford, Dan Dennis or Ryan Morningstar. Spencer Lee, Gable Steveson and many others would give us everything we need.

You really don’t need coaches that can wrestle live against these guys. The coaches should be recruiting, teaching technique, etc. Build up the HWC with big name, in their prime wrestlers to roll live with the guys.

 

[texas twister]

Because I just watched Sealy and Lillendahl’s last 2 matches

Oh boy!!! Yeah, just what I figured.