The Standpoint Podcast with JBO
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Turn off the internet.... Fans are in his head, he's done for.
Given some of the comments of JBo and Connor, it's obvious that at least some of the players are reading these boards and listening to the criticism, wherever it arises, when they lose. Rather unfortunate given the Hot/Cold nature of so many on here.
I think JBo deserves to be able to make money off his name and NCAA system is rigged to benefit coaches/ncaa big wigs at expense of players. I don't question his heart and I think he will end up being valuable part of Iowa team. That doesn't mean some rejiggering of the starting lineup and minutes is not warranted.
They're reading Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.
I don't think people under the age of 30 are aware of the existence of message boards.
Message boards are the laser disc of social media.
Actually they do. Ask any kid coming out of College deep in debt if they would take some criticism in exchange for that bill. I'm guessing it would be 100%, Yepper. And I don't see any of these pampered Athletes bitching when the accolades and perks of being a D1 Athlete come their way.
They signed up for it, been the same way since the beginning of time. Welcome to Real World 101.
Stop reading Twitter and go out there and have fun.
Yeah, message boards are an old guy hangout.
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Agreed. Fair criticism comes with the territory. I said "fair" criticism. Over-the-top stuff is unacceptable, even if you're making millions as a pro. That being said, nobody has to play D1 sports. You accept the scholarship and all the perks that go with it, then some criticism, when warranted, is part of the deal.
JBo has seemed disinterested on the floor this season. His body language has been unlike any other time in his career. Maybe he's become so obsessed with his campaign against the NCAA that he's has spent his competitive fire in that effort, leaving little to none for the games.
Whatever the reason, JBo has been a negative for this team all season, with the lone exception of the UNC game. He should NOT be in the starting lineup tomorrow night. Change is needed, so start Joe T, let Jordan come off the bench, and see if that helps both the team and Jordan. Talk has always been cheap, and it still is.
JBo has seemed disinterested on the floor this season. His body language has been unlike any other time in his career. Maybe he's become so obsessed with his campaign against the NCAA that he's has spent his competitive fire in that effort, leaving little to none for the games.
Whatever the reason, JBo has been a negative for this team all season, with the lone exception of the UNC game. He should NOT be in the starting lineup tomorrow night. Change is needed, so start Joe T, let Jordan come off the bench, and see if that helps both the team and Jordan. Talk has always been cheap, and it still is.
If he didn’t like the terms of his agreement (scholarship if you play BB), he didn’t have to come back this year.
Link to all these ncaa big wigs making all this money?
And keep in mind, a large percentage of the coaches that are getting rich are...
Former student athletes!!!
It’s almost like being able to demonstrate a path to personal success or wealth through coaching is...
Good for the student athletes!!!
Fans could stop being assholes, but they should seriously quit if it bothers them that much. Especially because social media is a choice. Any person getting compensated for a job that comes with the upside of being a public figure is subject to critique. That’s how the real world works.
They are overcompensated.
imagine the interest on all those loans they don’t have to take. What job are these athletes going to take after 4 years of college where they are making 100k. A small % will most will not.
the problem with nil is regulation and trying to maintain some semblance of a fair playing field.
imagine the interest on all those loans they don’t have to take. What job are these athletes going to take after 4 years of college where they are making 100k. A small % will most will not.
the problem with nil is regulation and trying to maintain some semblance of a fair playing field.
I understand the frustration fans feel with a loss. I do not understand when fans feel the need to reach out to the players on social media to air their grievances. The players are putting in the work and want to win just as badly as we do. They can use our support, but do not need our criticism.
I know Kirk took a lot of flack for his policy of keeping his players off of Twitter, but I can appreciate it. We have seen some players (Josey Jewel) who look for that criticism as motivation, but more often than not it becomes more of a distraction (Zach McCabe and Jordan Bohannon).
This board can be hard to read after a loss for anyone not playing. I cannot imagine what it would be like for a player or their family as has been seen with some of the parents of the football players.
This should be a site where we come to commiserate wins and losses. I hope we can all keep in mind that most of the people on this board are Hawk fans and we all want the Hawks to win.
Nobody is forcing you to continue to play. I’m not pinning this all on JBO either but my god. 65% of our college graduate hires turnover in the first 6 months of the job because we have a heavy feedback culture (to make you better). Why do they think they’re exempt from criticism or feedback? If anything he’s lucky he has a choice whether to listen or not, won’t have that luxury in the real world if you want to stay employed.
Yeah I don’t think now is the best time for them to bitch, given the average debt loads of college graduates.
The typical student athlete is embarrassingly clueless as to the financial structure of the NCAA, and it’s mainly because of uneducated fans and disingenuous people like jay bilas in their ear.
The typical student athlete is embarrassingly clueless as to the financial structure of the NCAA, and it’s mainly because of uneducated fans and disingenuous people like jay bilas in their ear.
There are assholes at every phase of life. You can’t get rid of them.
You are correct in that no one is forcing them to play or pay attention to this criticism. I do have a question in regards to criticizing the players. Do you mean criticizing the players directly or on message boards? The players do not need direct criticism or feedback from us as fans. They have their coaches for that.
He's desperate for attention. That's been apparent for a couple years now.
I do agree, but that does not make it OK to be an asshole. I am not calling out anyone in particular with this post.
I have not listened to Jordan’s podcast yet as I already subscribe to more than I can listen. Does he give any insight into what it is like to play on the team and for Fran? I heard on the WUW podcast that Jordan had gotten CJ Beathard on his podcast recently, which interested me.
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I dont agree with ANYONE going after a player directly on Twitter whatsoever. But the kid appears to be a bit coddled and he's getting more and more desperate as
The real world is slowly catching up to him. Cant play a game for your entire life as it does not pay the bills for 99% of athletes after college.
Oh I totally agree. But the players have the power...just ignore people or stay off social media.
They do have that power and I wish that they would utilize it. On the other hand, I think it is a shame that we have to talk about this. We all need to be more civil to each other and not just post anything we want because it is an anonymous message board.
No idea about what's on his podcast. Wouldnt ever waste the time listening to it.
There are a fair amount of idiots that attack on social media. There are also opposing fans and posers that lash out to make trouble. Then the 3rd element IMO is the easy of sports betting from home on your phone. Lots of young people are betting on these games and essentially act like the players are their property. If they lose their bets that go off on the players. This is going to be a bigger and bigger impact to professional and college athletes by the mentally challenged gamblers who take it further than entertainment.
I’m saying part of having the platform they do is going to come with criticism even from a fan base. That’ll NEVER go away right or wrong. So ultimately they should decide whether it’s worth then continuing to play or not.
I don't see any problem with criticizing players on a message board like this, as long as it pertains to their play and abilities. Players are free to do what they want with their free time and shouldn't be criticized for what they do outside of basketball. Personal attacks are not alright but anything that happens during a game is not personal and is free game to criticize. Tweeting directly at a player is no bueno and shouldnt be a thing. If they find stuff on a message board they get offended by then that is their own fault because they were clearly looking for it then.
1- fans, trolls, etc... who attack players of any sort directly on social media are scum and sad. I like how Bohannon called out the teacher a week or two ago.
2- players can make their lives easier by restricting social media. Unfortunately, it has become too easy of an ego stroke. Problem is that when it goes the other way, people are to blame.
3- Kirk Ferentz was ahead of his time (did I say that?) on social media.
4- we, as humans, are proving that we are not capable of having social media.
2- players can make their lives easier by restricting social media. Unfortunately, it has become too easy of an ego stroke. Problem is that when it goes the other way, people are to blame.
3- Kirk Ferentz was ahead of his time (did I say that?) on social media.
4- we, as humans, are proving that we are not capable of having social media.
Coming into this season I considered jbo an all time hawk great with his big shots and what he did with the free throw streak/Chris Street thing. The more I see him play and hear him talk this year the less I feel that way. He should shut up and focus on his game, if he doesn't think criticism of his play so far is warranted he's delusional. Saying we should be #1 before getting owned by zags was embarrassing. His shit defense is a big reason why we lose games and has been for a long time
It’s not just a message board problem.
More like coaching is semi closed fraternity where your 1st break depends on who you know more than what you know... BF at Iowa is prime example...got job at New England through Dad's connections than fast track to Offensive coordinator under his Dad. Cmac is probably on same path.
You honestly don't think those coaching at NCAA P5 teams in the money sports B-ball/football aren't cleaning up money wise while the athletes get scholarships? After coaches, Next in Line is Big Commissioner, Next in line are the ADs..all well compensated. Then you can look at former players like say a Tyler Sash or Greenwood...how well are they doing? My beef would be that some of the money going to the elites should be instead distributed to the athletes, especially athletes with injuries. JBo with both his hips replaced, yeah, he should be getting some of Fran's money.
Barry Alvarez AD....1.125 million/yr back in 2017
Ranking the salaries of Big Ten athletic directors | Husker Extra | journalstar.com
B1G commissioner Jim Delany will reportedly pull in a cool $20 million bonus (saturdaytradition.com)
He does. It’s called a scholarship, meals, etc. at the tune of about $150,000 over four years.
I'd be fine with mens football and basketball getting paid. Although those programs don't make money at every school so thats a problem.
Bigger problem is title 9.
If you let players sell their likeness its going to immediately be used as a way to sell a player to the highest bidding program.
Pay them then charge them for their scholarship it all works out in the end.
