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The Standpoint Podcast with JBO

What hill am I dying on? The one pointing out that you regularly excuse this stuff and essentially blame the players because they are famous so they should just deal with it? Really? The fact is it's not just the players, it's their families that see this crap and frankly that's even worse for parents than for the athletes. But, hey, they play ball in college, so they are famous so deal with it or get out, right? Next man in. Or you guys just have zero social media in college because people can't act like civilized human beings.

Or the novel concept that people actually behave like decent human beings and when they don't you point out that its not respectful behavior.

ok. Well, I hope AdolfH03460620 really listens and makes some changes for the better.
 
Again you didn't read the article. New York, Massachusetts, California, Texas and Florida are already there.
You gotta try harder than this or I will bury you.

You will bury me? What kind of happy little man syndrome you got bro?

The answer remains the same. If adults are making money off kids then the kids should get a cut. Of course one of the reasons they won't do that is because they would run afoul of child labor laws. Interesting right? If they pay them they run up against child labor laws but they sure can have them perform the same amount of work and sell tv contracts for profit. The labor didn't change nor does the amount of work and yet if they passed those tv contract profits onto the kids they would violate child labor law.

People deserve to be paid for their labor.
 
You will bury me? What kind of happy little man syndrome you got bro?

The answer remains the same. If adults are making money off kids then the kids should get a cut. Of course one of the reasons they won't do that is because they would run afoul of child labor laws. Interesting right? If they pay them they run up against child labor laws but they sure can have them perform the same amount of work and sell tv contracts for profit. The labor didn't change nor does the amount of work and yet if they passed those tv contract profits onto the kids they would violate child labor law.

People deserve to be paid for their labor.
Paid for their labor. It's fvcking voluntary.
Regardless what I think, it will happen eventually and we can all cross our fingers that it doesn't ruin football or basketball for half of the country.
 
You will bury me? What kind of happy little man syndrome you got bro?

The answer remains the same. If adults are making money off kids then the kids should get a cut. Of course one of the reasons they won't do that is because they would run afoul of child labor laws. Interesting right? If they pay them they run up against child labor laws but they sure can have them perform the same amount of work and sell tv contracts for profit. The labor didn't change nor does the amount of work and yet if they passed those tv contract profits onto the kids they would violate child labor law.

People deserve to be paid for their labor.
OK, pay them for their labor. How much do they get? Be specific.
 
Respect others? You mean force your belief about masks

college players have other avenues to become pro players. They don’t have to go to college.

Where have I mentioned masks? This is not the off topic board, so I have kept politics and masks out of the discussion. Treating other people with respect is not only about wearing a mask during an epidemic. If you cannot understand this, then I feel sorry for you.
 
Paid for their labor. It's fvcking voluntary.
Regardless what I think, it will happen eventually and we can all cross our fingers that it doesn't ruin football or basketball for half of the country.

That changes once people start making millions if dollars
 
Nice response.

You wanted to try and have me build some fictional budget and be specific? That makes you a dolt

No I am not going to do that or invent some profit sharing mechanism. If anyone takes the labor of children and turns a profit they should be held up to some strict scrutiny. A school district charging a gate to enter a contest and using those funds for the athletic department makes sense. Selling the television contracts for millions of dollars changes that dynamic quite a bit. So using this standard you set should the high school athletics director each take a hundred grand for themselves while preaching it is for the students? What about the coaches? Shouldn't they each get 150k or so out of those tv contracts?

A strength coach just got paid 1m at Iowa for getting fired and people like you think we can't afford to pay football players.

Tell you what....let athletes get paid but reduce their scholarship by the amount they get paid. The athlete would really need to make a lot of money from their likeness in order to make it worth it.
 
Where have I mentioned masks? This is not the off topic board, so I have kept politics and masks out of the discussion. Treating other people with respect is not only about wearing a mask during an epidemic. If you cannot understand this, then I feel sorry for you.
Stay home if you’re scared. I’m not. I’m not wearing one either.
 
You will bury me? What kind of happy little man syndrome you got bro?

The answer remains the same. If adults are making money off kids then the kids should get a cut. Of course one of the reasons they won't do that is because they would run afoul of child labor laws. Interesting right? If they pay them they run up against child labor laws but they sure can have them perform the same amount of work and sell tv contracts for profit. The labor didn't change nor does the amount of work and yet if they passed those tv contract profits onto the kids they would violate child labor law.

People deserve to be paid for their labor.

dude, under what economic scenario is EVERY PLAYER worth more than the value of free college? It doesn’t exist.
 
Stay home if you’re scared. I’m not. I’m not wearing one either.

Congratulations about not being scared. You do not seem to be very bright though and seem to be having a conversation with yourself. I have said nothing about wearing a mask.
 
dude, under what economic scenario is EVERY PLAYER worth more than the value of free college? It doesn’t exist.

You can't possibly believe this. Not every player receives free college now even in basketball and football. In the other sports most of the athletes pay the majority of their tuition and room and board.

Some of you have a very skewed view of what being a division one athlete actually means.
 
You can't possibly believe this. Not every player receives free college now even in basketball and football. In the other sports most of the athletes pay the majority of their tuition and room and board.

Some of you have a very skewed view of what being a division one athlete actually means.

lol, oh my god dude

so now you are arguing that partial or non scholarship athletes have value that’s not associated with the university?
 
lol, oh my god dude

so now you are arguing that partial or non scholarship athletes have value that’s not associated with the university?

What a dumb question.

If people are making money off of the labor of other people then those doing the work deserve to be compensated. It's called capitalism.

Do you have value beyond your employer? What a dumb question. If you find out your boss is making a million dollars a year while paying you 20k for the result of your work would you want a raise?
 
What a dumb question.

If people are making money off of the labor of other people then those doing the work deserve to be compensated. It's called capitalism.

Do you have value beyond your employer? What a dumb question. If you find out your boss is making a million dollars a year while paying you 20k for the result of your work would you want a raise?
How do you calculate the value of an athlete playing a sport which requires donations or fundraising to stay afloat because it doesn’t generate enough revenue to cover its expenses? Schools will shut these sports down before paying its athletes... assuming that is what you are suggesting. These athletes should still be given the opportunity to brand themselves and profit that way (they likely won’t have much success in anything other than football or basketball), but paying them a fixed amount beyond a partial-full scholarship isn’t feasible
 
How do you calculate the value of an athlete playing a sport which requires donations or fundraising to stay afloat because it doesn’t generate enough revenue to cover its expenses? Schools will shut these sports down before paying its athletes... assuming that is what you are suggesting. These athletes should still be given the opportunity to brand themselves and profit that way (they likely won’t have much success in anything other than football or basketball), but paying them a fixed amount beyond a partial-full scholarship isn’t feasible

Or course it is feasible. Do you work for free?
 
What a dumb question.

If people are making money off of the labor of other people then those doing the work deserve to be compensated. It's called capitalism.

Do you have value beyond your employer? What a dumb question. If you find out your boss is making a million dollars a year while paying you 20k for the result of your work would you want a raise?
Does this Capitalism thing of yours work the same way for Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, The Walton Family, etc? Pretty sure they didn't get into the 100's of Billions of dollars by equally sharing with the employees that make all that money possible.

Do they all "earn" that money? Of course not, but they still have it and the large majority of people largely responsible for them having it don't. That's how Capitalism can work. Some share better than others.

Nobody is forced to work for Amazon or Microsoft in a free country, and nobody is forced to accept a DI Full Ride scholarship either.
 
There is such thing as a nonprofit sport, so again, where is the revenue coming from?

Let me clarify. If there isn't actual revenue produced then there isnt anything to pay athletes assuming athletics isn't playing their game if showing a loss on paper but somehow magically increasing the budget every year and paying coaches exorbitant salaries.
 
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