Agree that Iowa's tendencies are being exploited by conference teams. Even the lower tier big ten teams play defense at a higher level than most other conferences. Michigan and MSU are both 1 seeds and have the potential to blow a lot of teams out. The lackluster play against NE and Rutgers is more disconcerting to me.
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Agree that Iowa's tendencies are being exploited by conference teams. Even the lower tier big ten teams play defense at a higher level than most other conferences. Michigan and MSU are both 1 seeds and have the potential to blow a lot of teams out. The lackluster play against NE and Rutgers is more disconcerting to me.
Agree. I would like to see Moss do more of what he did in the second half last night. Granted that was more an act of desperation than a strategy but I am sure Fran has been pushing him to be more aggressive all year. It just doesn't seem to be something Moss is comfortable with.
They won’t be worse but a majority of the fans on this board will still be bitching so yeah it will be entertaining.
I’ve been preaching that for a while now ...but most of the kool-aid crowd don’t want to hear that either.
Until Barta is gone I don’t really want Fran fired.
Barta is the real weak link.
All these people pissed at Fran don’t have time to look at facts. They are too busy acting like the back-up Freshman PG is the number one reason for all the team’s recent problems.
Kind of my thoughts as well. Do coaches at a P5 school make huge leaps in Year 10? The recruiting has improved during the last few years, that is encouraging
Fran doesn’t need to make a huge leap. He needs to take the next step. Painter, Bielein, Brey off the top of my head were able to do this, or recover from down stretches.
Man you have a lot of bad takes. You want Moss to handle the ball more? He is the worst ball handler of all the guards by far and I don’t trust him handling the ball more then most of the big men.
And you talk about Connor having weird TO’s?! Moss constantly dribbles off his foot or jumps in the air and throws it to no one or loses it on a fast break. Plus Moss is one of the worst finishers I’ve ever seen. He rarely completes a drive to the hoop whether he gets fouled or not.
Moss has more TO’s then Connor but yet you say Moss doesn’t handle the ball that much? And he should handle it more?
And to top it all off the you think the scorekeepers are colluding to not give Connor TO’s and give them to other players?!
You are too much man. I know you hate Iowa and the Ferentz’s and the McCaffrey’s and all white players on both the basketball and football teams. You are a riot.
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Despite the fact we seldom agree, I do agree with you here. So here are two questions. How does Fran take the next step without dramatically increasing the level of athleticism? Second question. Why didn't Fran get a 1 or 2 in here who could do what current 1 and 2's can't? I think having this guy would have meant another 2-3 wins if not more. Fran gets close but the gaps are always the same: Lack of a dynamic PG and shot creators and bad D. The offense relies on teams playing lazy D and does little to get shooters open looks.
Fran got this team into the top 15. Our fans proceeded to reset expectations, despite knowing exactly who the players are. How come now you say we need more athleticism? How come a 10-10 record is so disappointing if everyone knew we didn’t have great players?
Seems like a double standard.
Huh? I asked you two straightforward questions and you didn't answer either. I did not reset expectations at all. Go read my posts before the season in which I said "Two BTT wins, win a first round NCAA game and compete in a 2nd round game". Is that too much to expect from a coach in his 9th year with an experienced team? Are you saying this is the pinnacle of Iowa basketball?
This might be the most logical post I’ve ever read on this board. Fans underestimate how much 3 point shooting affects the games. It’s a universal truth in basketball, not just an Iowa thing.
I think we're a tourney team that will struggle to get over the hump, again. I'm not sure either CJ or Toussaint can get onto the court if everyone comes back. I'm not sure I trust Fran with rotations that involve his kids, but Connor needs to learn how to shoot to be effective. Weiskamp will only get better, I have absolutely 0 worries about him, but I think all the others have hit their ceiling. We don't know where Pemsl and Nunge are at...but I'm hoping they'll bring some defense. I'm guessing Dailey transfers, he can sit for a year or grad transfer depending on where he is academically, but you'd think he'd want to go the Ellingson route assuming either Frederick or Toussaint are ready to go.
There's just nothing on this roster that cries out that they're going to win more than 22 games, perhaps a couple fewer since we're likely to get a tough ACC/BT challenege road game (my guess would be Florida State or Syracuse), the Vegas tourney, Cincy @ the United Center and @Iowa State.
There's just nothing on this roster that cries out that they're going to win more than 22 games, perhaps a couple fewer since we're likely to get a tough ACC/BT challenege road game (my guess would be Florida State or Syracuse), the Vegas tourney, Cincy @ the United Center and @Iowa State.
Thiis isn't already ugly? And this is different from any other year, regardless of record?
Lol what?
Moss gets his pocket picked 20 feet from the hoop consistently.
Maybe you’re on to something here. Both years Iowa was in the Top 100 of experience under Fran we made it to the Round of 32.
Agree in principle but there is more to it than making / not making 3's. That's like saying MLB teams should focus on home runs so their rosters should be full of swing for the fence guys. It takes a guy hitting a single, getting bunted to second so the next two have a chance for an RBI. Also why teams have position players who develop a particular skill at pitching, catching, infield, outfield, etc.
While multiple players play the infield a first baseman would likely not make a good 3rd basemen. Apply this to basketball. Fran tells us year after year that these guys can play multiple positions. Ok, how well can they play that position Fran? It's clear Fran is asking guys better suited to play first base or catch to play short stop and center field.
Fran should adjust his style to fit the players he is capable of recruiting. Pushing tempo and jacking 3's has not been to Iowa's advantage in 9 years. If you aren't capable of playing tough D you better figure out a way to get good shots and limit possessions for the opponent to mitigate your defensive issues. Secondly, if you are going to recruit guys who are spot up shooters you need a couple guys to create for them. Iowa has good shooters but Fran's offense doesn't get these guys open looks and the players aren't capable of getting separation to get their shot up. Iowa should be a dangerous team offensively but the issues at PG on both ends (again) are negatively impacting the team's performance. Scoring 80 and giving up 90 isn't a recipe for success.
The Rutgers 3 happens all the time.
Had the game ended on that, you think that would have made ESPN top plays?
No.
That shit happens all the time.
You know what doesn't happen all the time?
Last second prayers/buzzer beaters, off the edge of the backboard winners.
Same with players scoring a lot. Or, tip ins near the end.
Those happen all the time.
I don't know if you're trying to clump last second prayer shots in with regular normal finishes on purpose or what, but the difference between the two is night and day.
