This lineup tho...

[JonesHawk125]

125 - Spencer Lee
133 - Phillip Laux
141 - Pat Lugo
149 - Brandon Sorensen
157 - Michael Kemerer
165 - Alex Marinelli
174 - Kaleb Young
184 - Pat Downey III
197 - Cash Wilcke
285 - Sam Stoll

...salty.

 

[nearfall2]

125 - Spencer Lee
133 - Phillip Laux
141 - Pat Lugo
149 - Brandon Sorensen
157 - Michael Kemerer
165 - Alex Marinelli
174 - Kaleb Young
184 - Pat Downey III
197 - Cash Wilcke
285 - Sam Stoll

...salty.

Would like to see Murin at 133.

 

[hawknut]

Will Lee be ready? Heard they were taking it easy with him even now.

 

[so cal hawkfan]

I’d be surprised if Lee didn’t shirt this year. Especially with him not being 100% right now. Not sure it’s worth the risk. Excited to watch the Bull and Kaleb Young in action this year. 2018-19 is going to be special.

 

[west2east]

Thats a great lineup just dont see them doing this with Penn St and Ohio St loaded like theyre.I dont think its worth it for a 3rd place finish

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

Can Lugo make 141? Murrin 133?

 

[woodsiding]

We need to learn from guys like Mcd, dsj, telford (makes the grit of Cory clark even more unbelievable). By the end of the fifth year we're seeing bodies break down. If he's healthy for this post season, capitalize on it, no guarantee he's going to be healthy at the end of the next four.

 

[west2east]

Can Lugo make 141? Murrin 133?

For Certs
Lugo weighed between 157.1 - 164.9
Murin weighed between 133.1- 140.9
So I would say Lugo certified at 149 and Murin 133
At this point Laux is the best 133

 

[TarpHawk]

For Certs
Lugo weighed between 157.1 - 164.9
Murin weighed between 133.1- 140.9
So I would say Lugo certified at 149 and Murin 133
At this point Laux is the best 133

I'd like to think that between Turk, Happel, and Murin we'd have an AA-caliber guy at 141 without having to burn a year of Sorensen's replacement at 149.

Any idea what Glosser and Duggan certified at? I don't see either cracking the lineup at 149 but might be competitive at 141.

Is Glynn going down to 133? Could he beat Laux?

 

[Sandor45]

I'd like to think that between Turk, Happel, and Murin we'd have an AA-caliber guy at 141 without having to burn a year of Sorensen's replacement at 149.

Any idea what Glosser and Duggan certified at? I don't see either cracking the lineup at 149 but might be competitive at 141.

Is Glynn going down to 133? Could he beat Laux?

Glynn is trying to go 33 last I heard
Laux is better than Glynn
I’d be surprised if Laux did not AA this year
I exp cr him to surprise people this season

 

[DayHawk18]

Glynn is trying to go 33 last I heard
Laux is better than Glynn
I’d be surprised if Laux did not AA this year
I exp cr him to surprise people this season

I'd be shocked if Laux was close to being an AA. What has he done to inspire a belief that he is there?

 

[Jaybird319]

I didn't see anything to suggest AA from his performances last year.

 

[CP84]

I didn't see anything to suggest AA from his performances last year.

Topher Carton was DNP at Midlands and 6th at the Grand View Open as a junior. As a senior he was ranked in the top 15 and a qualifier making the round of 12.

 

[Sandor45]

I'd be shocked if Laux was close to being an AA. What has he done to inspire a belief that he is there?

Go ahead and doubt it.
Not looking at record history as much as I’m looking at what he has going for him right now.
Best partners in the world
Brands and Perry
Increased Size and strength
Senior Year
He’s a 33 pounder from Iowa

 

[SPOONER]

Topher Carton was DNP at Midlands and 6th at the Grand View Open as a junior. As a senior he was ranked in the top 15 and a qualifier making the round of 12.

Based on his resume coming in, Topher was a pleasant surprise last year. Though he didn’t go 2-2 at the NCAAs, he didn’t make the round of 12.

The OP’s post is a nice thought but then you have Lee coming off ACL, Laux a long shot to AA, Lugo isn’t a 141 and Downey isn’t even a U of I student yet.

The sentiment falls apart pretty quickly.

 

[PinsNpints]

Lauxs' schedule for me is the most interesting.
Possible pre Midlands matchups for Phillip.
11/17 Lantry, Buffalo
11/17 Sykora, NDSU
11/24 Cefolo, Rider
12/1 Duncan, Illinios
12/8 Delvicchio, Rutgers
12/10 Simmons, Maryland

Maryland's Simmons is the only opponent Phil's mopped up. Sykora he has not wrestled yet and Phil has had close matches to all but Delvecchio, Rutgers.
I wish him well.
Starting off the season beating those guys before Midlands can be a huge confidence builder.
Midlands on it gets a hell of a lot tougher.
Kick some ass Phil

 

[JohnBasedow]

I’m on the Laux bandwagon as well. He will surprise people.

 

[TarpHawk]

I’m on the Laux bandwagon as well. He will surprise people.

I hope you're right. I've become too jaded to have any emotional reaction whatsoever to the phrase, "He will surprise people." I see a fifth-year senior with a 10-8 last record last year, 13-11 over the past 3 years, with biggest win a SV decision over #43 Welch of Purdue (who went 0-3 at B1G tourney last year). He's ranked #44 by wrestlestat, which puts him 9th in B1G. "Will he even qualify?" is my question. But I'm the Grinch and I hope my heart grows three sizes this season.

 

[LaxHawk174]

For Certs
Lugo weighed between 157.1 - 164.9
Murin weighed between 133.1- 140.9
So I would say Lugo certified at 149 and Murin 133
At this point Laux is the best 133

Well I think it's safe to say that Murin saw my plan and decided it was best for the team moving forward if he made 133 through 2020. Good on you Max! I predict high AA honors, and 4 of them! 2x Top 4 @ 133 (2019-2020) and 2x Top 4 @ 141 (2021-2022)..

 

[DayHawk18]

I hope you're right. I've become too jaded to have any emotional reaction whatsoever to the phrase, "He will surprise people." I see a fifth-year senior with a 10-8 last record last year, 13-11 over the past 3 years, with biggest win a SV decision over #43 Welch of Purdue (who went 0-3 at B1G tourney last year). He's ranked #44 by wrestlestat, which puts him 9th in B1G. "Will he even qualify?" is my question. But I'm the Grinch and I hope my heart grows three sizes this season.

Not the Grinch, just not overly optimistic like many here. I think he will have a fine season and end up qualifying. Just can't say AA until he does something on the mat to indictate that.

 

[west2east]

I'd like to think that between Turk, Happel, and Murin we'd have an AA-caliber guy at 141 without having to burn a year of Sorensen's replacement at 149.

Any idea what Glosser and Duggan certified at? I don't see either cracking the lineup at 149 but might be competitive at 141.

Is Glynn going down to 133? Could he beat Laux?

Glosser weighed between 149.1- 156.9 So I would say 149
Duggan weighed between 141.1- 148.9 So I would say 141
Glynn weighed between 133.1- 140.9 So I woud say 133

 

[Mattski]

I see 7 AAs there and 2 champs absolute best case (Lee and PD3). Not going to be enough to unseat psu so why risk it with Lee unless hes absolutely 100%?

 

[el dub]

I see 7 AAs there and 2 champs absolute best case (Lee and PD3). Not going to be enough to unseat psu so why risk it with Lee unless hes absolutely 100%?

I want him at 110% before he competes. They way he might not get scored on for his career.

 

[CumberlandHawk]

I want him at 110% before he competes. They way he might not get scored on for his career.

Speaking of optimism.

 

[el dub]

Speaking of optimism.

Nope. Sarcasm.

 

[artradley]

Topher Carton was DNP at Midlands and 6th at the Grand View Open as a junior. As a senior he was ranked in the top 15 and a qualifier making the round of 12.

Based on his resume coming in, Topher was a pleasant surprise last year. Though he didn’t go 2-2 at the NCAAs, he didn’t make the round of 12.

The OP’s post is a nice thought but then you have Lee coming off ACL, Laux a long shot to AA, Lugo isn’t a 141 and Downey isn’t even a U of I student yet.

The sentiment falls apart pretty quickly.

And Stoll has yet to complete a season. Anybody optimistic about this season is setting themselves up for a big disappointment.

 

[Jackhawk87]

And Stoll has yet to complete a season. Anybody optimistic about this season is setting themselves up for a big disappointment.

Consider me set up for a big disappointment!

They call me an optimist. I believe in people and hope for the best.

 

[woodsiding]

Every year about this time a pie in the sky optimist posts a line up with the top end potential of every weight and they tell us how we could win the title in March. This year those people are saying some of the craziest $hit yet just to hypothetically place third.

 

[nearfall2]

And Stoll has yet to complete a season. Anybody optimistic about this season is setting themselves up for a big disappointment.

I have faith in the double bundle.

 

[bbwretler]

Every year about this time a pie in the sky optimist posts a line up with the top end potential of every weight and they tell us how we could win the title in March. This year those people are saying some of the craziest $hit yet just to hypothetically place third.

Nothing wrong with being an optimist. Easy to set goals and objectives to accomplish nothing or very little and then expect to achieve it. More difficult to select higer objectives and then have to redefine and find new ways to accomplish what objectives were not reached.

 

[JohnBasedow]

And Stoll has yet to complete a season. Anybody optimistic about this season is setting themselves up for a big disappointment.

 

[IAChief32]

I picked us to finish 4th last year I believe. If Lee shirts, we will finish 6th or 7th. If he goes, we'll be battling for a trophy.

 

[Pennstate1985]

I picked us to finish 4th last year I believe. If Lee shirts, we will finish 6th or 7th. If he goes, we'll be battling for a trophy.

Ive said for the last year that the Hawks would be smart to RS all freshmen this year and swing serious wood the following 4 years. Why finish 3rd this year instead of 6th if it costs you a title in 2022? That seems like a long way off, but coaches are planning for that now. I get the "wrestle for today" mindset, but to me that isn't the smart play.

 

[championhawk]

Glosser weighed between 149.1- 156.9 So I would say 149
Duggan weighed between 141.1- 148.9 So I would say 141
Glynn weighed between 133.1- 140.9 So I woud say 133

Glosser certified 41. Whether he can hold it and be effective is anyone's guess. Stickley certified 25.

 

[AFHawk86]

Glosser certified 41. Whether he can hold it and be effective is anyone's guess. Stickley certified 25.

Those are some tough cuts...yuck.

 

[TarpHawk]

Those are some tough cuts...yuck.

Agree. Good to see them certified there though. It opens up possibilities for them and the team.

 

[artradley]

Agree. Good to see them certified there though. It opens up possibilities for them and the team.

Psssh. What do you know about cutting...

 

[PAiaHwkFan]

Ive said for the last year that the Hawks would be smart to RS all freshmen this year and swing serious wood the following 4 years. Why finish 3rd this year instead of 6th if it costs you a title in 2022? That seems like a long way off, but coaches are planning for that now. I get the "wrestle for today" mindset, but to me that isn't the smart play.

This. Although 6or7 looks bad for Iowa, the result could produce a future 1

 

[Grip220]

This. Although 6or7 looks bad for Iowa, the result could produce a future 1

I agree the only thing is there are more and more #1-3 guys that are just about college ready right out of the gate to AA and it seems with the way recruiting is going for a team to win the title it will need atleast 3-4 of those type guys plus 2 guys that are developed by their junior year

 

[acuhawk]

Glosser certified 41. Whether he can hold it and be effective is anyone's guess. Stickley certified 25.

He tested ok to do 41, but his body didn't like it, so expect to see him at 49. I don't get information often, but I trust this source.