You must not have been watching much this season. Harding and Bowen have played together a lot. And they will next season too
This loss is on Fran...
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The 7'4 guy getting 18 rebounds was case of height making a differene.
Krikke 6'8 with 2 rebounds and Purdue 6'0 Braden smith with 6 rebounds was a problem.
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Basically a six man rotation. Brauns only played because of the foul trouble guarding Edey. Pryce did hit a shot but really should not even sniff the rotation. Dembele has potential but had a tough assignment today.
We just don't have the horses if Freeman does not play big minutes. I am Okay with Pmac off bench to hit a few threes and Twister layups. But our starters have to step up every night. Bowen and Harding can help against certain teams.
We just don't have the horses if Freeman does not play big minutes. I am Okay with Pmac off bench to hit a few threes and Twister layups. But our starters have to step up every night. Bowen and Harding can help against certain teams.
Not making shots isn’t on Fran
Not rebounding is on everyone—Fran for coaching and players for effort.
Not having an answer for Freakazoid is….
Not having all of Freakazoid’s 9 fouls called isn’t on Fran.
The defense on the perimeter seemed to be overall better, while still spotty.
Purdue just executed better and used Freakazoid perfectly.
Not rebounding is on everyone—Fran for coaching and players for effort.
Not having an answer for Freakazoid is….
Not having all of Freakazoid’s 9 fouls called isn’t on Fran.
The defense on the perimeter seemed to be overall better, while still spotty.
Purdue just executed better and used Freakazoid perfectly.
Edy's a big mismatch for every team. Hawks should have put more emphasis on rebounding, obviously. Dembele looks like he could be a force on the boards (except against Edy). But they needed to send 5 guys to the boards on every Purdue shot. That was painful to watch.
No fran fan here but this is the #2 team in the country with the nations best player. This loss isn’t on anyone.
Geez. Grow up. This one is on the players. Down 8 with less than 4 minutes to go, Iowa got 3 stops in a row and couldn't score. That's not on Fran. That's on the players. God I would hate to work with, or for you, because you appear to be the type of person to place blame based on how well you like the person instead of the facts.
IMO, a lot of that is due to Purdue being that good, we were also down 20+ most of that game and we made a late run to make it semi competitive. I thought hawks played much better today, even if final score doesn’t totally reflect that.
They shot better - 50%, and kept the rebounding margin closer.
especially with freeman in foul trouble, and Edey just not getting called for much, Iowa was doomed on boards.
Iowa was down 35 at Purdue. They were down 30+ most of the 2nd half. Iowa hit shots late against bench players to make the score a 19 point game. Big difference in the way the game went. The game never got away today. 17 points is not that hard to come back from, as we've seen time and time again in basketball.
Isn’t it always on the coach ? I haven’t been on a message board yet that after a loss everyone doesn’t blame the coach 😂
I think part of Dembele's problem with his hands is they look fairly small for someone his size.
Actually pretty sure Nebraska only made one more 3 than Purdue. The bigger difference was they were able to battle Purdue to a draw on the boards.
Maybe, perhaps at the bottom of the first round.
His trouble is that he's part of a dying breed - a big man who doesn't/can't shoot. He very rarely takes shots outside the paint and there just aren't many big men in the NBA who thrive with that limited skillset. You'd think he'd have left after his junior year, I have a difficult time believing his stock has improved that much.
Iowa had 3 opportunities to cut into the lead when the score was 78-70. Then Jones hit the dagger 3 to put the game away. The entire complexion of the game changes if a couple of those shots go in.
There’s way too much hand wringing over losing to a vastly superior, although still beatable team. Iowa has a stretch of 7 very winnable games. We won’t get them all but 5-2 puts them in position to dance.
There’s way too much hand wringing over losing to a vastly superior, although still beatable team. Iowa has a stretch of 7 very winnable games. We won’t get them all but 5-2 puts them in position to dance.
Fran has the all time winngest record at iowa
It is not time for him to move on.
Nebraska shot 61% from three (14-23) compared to 39% (13-33) for Purdue. While it may be only one more made three, any team that shoots 60% or better with 23 attempts from three is going to have a good chance at beating anyone.
Nebraska did a better job of rebounding than we saw Iowa do yesterday. That certainly help limit second chance points. Nebraska has a pretty solid big in Mast as well so they didn’t double Edey nearly as much as Iowa did. Where I thought Nebraska had surprising success was taking it right at Edey or at the very least, driving to the basket. Using quickness to get around him or get their shot up before he could get over to help. That seemed to work for them pretty well throughout. Nebraska also took care of the basketball too. Only had 8 TOs.
Yeah, but context matters. He’s also been at Iowa longer than Dr. Tom and has the benefit of more scheduled games and a conference tournament to pad win totals.
So, I don’t think that’s quite the counterpoint you think it is. At some point, his teams have to show a little growth in defense, rebounding, and toughness. That just hasn’t happened.
I would add what is the likelihood that the Iowa program has reached its ceiling under Fran? Pretty good. After this many seasons, it wouldn’t hurt to try someone new to try to elevate the program a little bit. With NIL and transfers, it doesn’t take any time at all to put together a winning team. I say that for the fans who are petrified of change and fear the new coach could be Todd Lickliter 2.0. One bad hire doesn’t sink a program like it used to.
Purdue was better. A lot better. Iowa is likely going to finish better than I thought they would finish and they have shown improvement throughout the season. In fact, I like where the team is headed and assuming Fran can keep players from leaving before next year and even bring in a portal player or two I think they are set up to be pretty good next season. But they basically need to go undefeated for the remainder of the season to make the NCAA tournament or they have to win the Big 10 tournament. Neither of those things are happening, certainly if they end up playing Purdue in the Big 10 tournament because Iowa has no answer for Edey.
Fran coaches his guys to ‘leak out’ and get on the break,just watch how many times our guys were watching For an out let pass innot crashing the boards. (Which is required when you have an Eddy underneath)
Isn’t Krikke from Canada? Does that affect his Visa status accepting NIL money? Like he is working instead of a student? Honest question..
Yeah, the higher number of conference games definitely plays a big factor - that's 4-6 games (depending on the year) of conference games vs likely cupcake games that Davis would schedule.
I'll be curious how Goetz approaches men's hoops. I like Fran, and enjoy watching the team for the most part, but I'd okay also if Beth had honest conversations with Fran about program expectations. As good an offensive coach Fran is, he's for some reason never put the same emphasis on defense; and it's quite clear that Barta was conflict-averse regarding his coaches so he almost never put pressure on coaches to make changes. Look at the Lickliter firing - it took the program hitting rock bottom and attendance/fan interest cratering for him to make that much-needed move. It doesn't seem like Beth has that same mentality.
I'm not a Tom Vs Fran guy and can celebrate the successes of each. That said, Dr Tom inherited a significantly better group of athletes that Fran did, and that significantly affected the results of each coach.
Wel
Welcome to the real world softy. Accountability is a thing. Not hacking it isn't acceptable. Have fun in line at the food pantry.
Lol this is probably the most loser post I have ever seen here and that speaks volumes. It is up with chis level.
Welcome to the real world softy. Accountability is a thing. Not hacking it isn't acceptable. Have fun in line at the food pantry.
Late to post, because sick and busy. I saw some positives in the game. Dembele is showing that he is Iowa's best post defender. I believe that he and Freeman will be an imposing frontcourt the next few years. Add in the incoming freshmen, and Iowa will have a strong, flexible frontcourt. I thought Tony played great, and I wish he would play with that fire more regularly. Dix continued to be a steady all-round contributor, who should probably shoot a little more often. Iowa would have made this a very interesting game if Payton hits a couple of the open wing 3s in the last 10-15 mins. They ran some nice plays to get the shots for him, and he ought to be hit in-rhythm 3s at least half of the time, if he is an elite outside shooter.
MaryLand game is a big game for both teams. They have some very talented players.
MaryLand game is a big game for both teams. They have some very talented players.
Honestly, I thought overall Iowa played a good game. Rotations on Edey were slow at times but I thought that happened most when Freeman was out. When the double got there in time, he kicked it out for 3s, and Purdue was making them Saturday.
When they fell down they fought back and had chances down the stretch.
Iowa is a chronically weak rebounding team. Purdue just ground them down. Purdue would beat Iowa 19 out of 20 times, I think. They have better players every where right now.
