Ok? Any response? Maybe I'm the onyl one but it remains what he said could have been said by Noam Chomsky or Jeffrey Sachs or the Pope for that matter.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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You appear to be at a point where you can't exit this discussion without looking like a fool so you continue to dig a deeper hole for yourself.
Just take the "L" and move on.
You know damn well that if Republicans take back the House, funding to Ukraine will be jeopardized.
By now most of us get that you have irrational, cult like man crushes on Chomsky and Sachs.
That's ok.
But 'name dropping ' and quoting your idols in the end provides no real argument for a ceasefire.
Could these guys possibly be wrong?
It's not difficult to see the evil that Putin presents. He has to be defeated.
Throwing Putin a lifeline at this juncture would would be catastrophic.
This response to the question is close enough to what I'm thinking. You've picked your side. You're on Team Chomsky, Sachs and Putin. Edit - Apparently Team Gosar, too. Fair enough. We get it.
I'm guessing that you bet on the Don't Pass line in craps, as well.
Look, I certainly don’t want to find out, but its almost a certainty that Russia’s ability to successfully launch nuclear weapons that successfully reach target with functioning bombs is profoundly under the 1600 active warheads they have. Certainly not zero. But way under 1000. And I am not even taking in account taking out a huge chunk with our air and sea defenses.
You forgot the Pope. I name dropped him too. Yes I mostly agree with them but I believe what I believe thru my own critical thinking. I might add I was also one of the only voices against the Iraq war too. Everybody says they were now.
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Thousands of civilians were killed in the Donbas since 2014 and yet no one says a word. It's a tragedy but why is Bucha so much more important?Anyone suggesting that the Ukrainians should negotiate now has a screw loose.
The Orcs are animals and should be treated as such. They need to be driven out of Ukraine before any talks begin.
Maybe we should ask the people of Bucha what they think.
How Russian soldiers ran a 'cleansing' operation in Bucha
The first man arrived at 7:27 a.m. Russian soldiers covered his head and marched him up the driveway toward a nondescript office building. It was a cold, gray morning, March 4 in Bucha, Ukraine. What happened that day in Bucha was what Russian soldiers on intercepted phone conversations called...news.yahoo.com
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Words were said at the time by the administration. Most Americans didn’t really understand what was going on. I’ll say a word now. Russians should not have fomented a civil war and supported illegal separatists that were funded and supported by Russia. If those separatists loved Russia so much they should have simply moved there. The problem is that those regions were never really about independence, then or now. It was always about transferring political power, territory, and resources to Putin. That’s it. That’s all this is.
Weird, right @binsfeldcyhawk2 ?
You wouldn't think the GOP would run with this, if they didn't expect their electorate to vote in favor of it....
Because the the people slaughtered in Bucha weren't pro-Russian separatist.
Dead is dead, but people are not going to look at deliberate executions of civilians the same as civilians caught in random shelling.
The shelling and low level warfare went on in Donbass for nearly 7 years with almost no American media attention.
Do you believe Russia has such a policy? And if so why, what is their motive? It seems very counter beneficial to them (and that's an understatement).
I don't think the Russians have anything akin to the Nazi's Einsatzgruppen running around Ukraine massacring civilians are part of a broader extermination policy.
I do believe there is evidence of war crimes against civilians in Ukraine by Russian forces.
I don't think anyone analyzes the Mỹ Lai massacre as 'United States policy' in Vietnam, but it still happened.
Greene and her crew of misfits are running on this....
R's voted unanimously for the Ukraine Lend lease act in the Senate.
There will be less support for Ukraine after this election but still plenty in combination with D's to continue support.
Some of the D support will start to waiver as well.....see the retracted progressive caucus letter.
How many civilians were killed before 2014? What changed in 2014?
Dude....THEY ARE CAMPAIGNING FOR IOWA REPUBLICANS
Time to take a step back, and recognize what your party actually stands for. And maybe re-assess....
Not my party...if I'm wrong and Ukraine aid gets cut off I'll admit as such.
Still plenty of R's that support Ukraine and the votes show that...
They retracted it because it was a political faux pas.....they signed it and sent it Joe.
"The United States is joined by the Netherlands in paying for 45 Czech T-72B tanks to be refurbished, which will be delivered to the Ukrainians. The aid also includes 1,100 Phoenix Ghost tactical unmanned aerial systems, 40 armored riverine boats, funding to refurbish Hawk air defense missiles, and 250 M1117 Armored Security Vehicles, among other things.
"The latest assistance came a week after its last one, which was valued at roughly $275 million. This aid did not include any significant new weapons, but it does include additional ammunition for the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, 500 precision guided 155 mm artillery rounds, 2,000 155 mm rounds of remote anti-armor mine systems, more than 1,300 anti-armor systems, 2.75 million rounds of small arms ammunition, four satellite communications antennas, and 125 Humvees.
“Broadly speaking ... our provision of weapons and capabilities to Ukraine has evolved since the very beginning of the war back in February because the needs on the battlefield have evolved. Right now, there's a heavy focus, appropriately so, on air defense," National Security Council spokesman John Kirby told reporters on Friday."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...urity/pentagon-announces-november-ukraine-aid
Yeah, my heart bleeds for you comrades.
Let's go frostbite!
"Preparation of mobilized reinforcements in the Orenburg region"
"Preparation of mobilized reinforcements in the Orenburg region"
"Ukraine’s fears that its troops may lose access to Elon Musk’s crucial Starlink internet service deepened in the past week after 1,300 of the military’s satellite units went offline, according to two sources familiar with the outage.
The small, easy-to-use satellite dishes made by Musk’s private rocket company SpaceX have been universally hailed as a game-changing source of communication for Ukraine’s military, allowing it to fight and stay online even as cellular phone and internet networks have been destroyed in its war with Russia.
But concerns have risen recently over the dependability of SpaceX after discussions about funding were revealed and outages were reported near the frontlines."
woah, thread was at 995 or so just a few days ago and boom blew past the 1000 page mark like nothing.
a couple questions. with putin deploying massive numbers of new untrained conscripts, is there a reason ukraine isn't switching from blowing shit up piecemeal with raids to outright finishing the war (basically get mass surrender from the russians)? get 20-30K to surrender and the world can get back to being normal.
a couple questions. with putin deploying massive numbers of new untrained conscripts, is there a reason ukraine isn't switching from blowing shit up piecemeal with raids to outright finishing the war (basically get mass surrender from the russians)? get 20-30K to surrender and the world can get back to being normal.
Greene is the #1 fundraiser for the GOP right now. She is a hot commodity on the campaign trail. Why would Chuck Grassley need her to come stump for him? If the House flips as much as predicted there will be lots of new members who might not be as centrist as you think the GOP is. The leftover moderates may see their survival in 2024 as being dependent on pleasing the Greene wing of the party.
You should prepare yourself to see just how fast a herd can move when scared.
It's not "Biden's aid"....it's US aid authorized by congress and Biden.
They retracted it because it's not supported by their party.
So they only express opinions their party approves of? Sounds like the CCP....
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