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Someone break your television and computer, lol?
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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What? Why would they vote w/ Dems just because they're the majority? When has that ever mattered?
It will be too late. Apathy is Putin’s best hope at this time. Email that douche Congressman of yours to support Ukraine. Liddle Marco and Snakehead, too, while you are at it.
The third vehicle finally gets it near the end.
A coup or a revolution?A coup and a civil war. Ukraine is very divided politically, east to west.. also divided by language, culture and ethnicity. This aspect is deeply rooted and didn't happen over night. It's even part of a trend toward ethnic revival or ethnic nationalism in former soviet union countries but strong in Ukraine. However, there are no other Russian regions like eastern Ukaine and Crimea in the former USSR. I believe when their president got ousted the eastern regions got fed up and demanded independence, rather than being second class citizens. Yes, Russia supported their cause I believe.
Zelensky even ran in 2019 on revising divisive cultural policies in Ukraine, meaning discrimination against Russians and trying to end the Donbas war. He opposed laws against the Russian language and derussification.. his predecessor supported those. His predecessor cut off pensions to the Donbas in 2017 and utilities.
Those Were the Days
In the spring of 2019 a showman converted himself into a politician, then a statesman. The 73 percent of voters who supported him (or who voted against the incumbent, Petro Poroshenko) in the presidential elections had a clear set of change demands: (1) to find a solution to the Donbas war, (2) to rein in the constantly growing prices for communal services unmatched by an equivalent growth in household income, and (3) to revise divisive cultural policies. Even though Zelensky’s platform as candidate was at best hazy, one thing was crystal clear—here was a man who was different in every way from the hungry hordes of the old elites.
Just Like All the Others: The End of the Zelensky Alternative?
www.wilsoncenter.org
Rubio, like virtually all Republican or Democratic leadership, is firmly in the neocon camp.
As has been mentioned, the AOC-MTG gadflies will say things, but my money is on the spice continuing to flow to the MIC.
When foreign ambassadors and diplomats are discussing amongst themselves privately who to replace the Ukrainian president with weeks before the violence that compels him to flee for his life, coup is more accurate than revolution.
Operation Ajax was a coup, the religious extremists takeover in Iran was a revolution.
Duly elected president the US decided to overthrow because they didn’t like the result of the 2010 election.
Ukraine Says ’No’ to NATO
REPORT MARCH 29, 2010by Kathleen Holzwart Sprehe, Research Associate, Pew Global Attitudes Project
Ukraine’s new governing coalition recently announced its intention to pass a law against joining military alliances, which will fulfill Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych’s campaign promise to prevent Ukraine from becoming a member in NATO. The new president’s opponents in parliament argue that this new strategy may result in pushing Ukraine back into the Russian “sphere of influence” and out of the European fold.
However, Yanukovych’s move to ban Ukraine from joining NATO is not without a base of public support. A September 2009 survey by the Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes Project, found that half of Ukrainians (51%) opposed their country’s admission to NATO, while only 28% favored such a step. Moreover, given the opposition to membership, it is not surprising that about half of Ukrainians (51%) gave NATO an unfavorable rating.
Views of membership in NATO vary by ethnicity and region. Ethnic Russians (74%) were far more likely to oppose admission to NATO than ethnic Ukrainians (46%). In terms of regional groupings, respondents living in the East (72%) and South (60%) — where the percentage of Russians tends to be higher than elsewhere in the country — were more likely to oppose joining NATO than were those living in the Central region (51%). And in the West a majority (59%) favored their country becoming part of NATO.
fourth rate dictator supplies fellow fourth rate dictator means to continue illegal terrorism campaign. pathetic what ruSSia has become.
LOL-I believe they are destroying mines, digging a ditch quickly?
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“2 and a half Russians” 😂
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That aligns with the known facts.
Nuland and our ambassador in Ukraine had their comms intercepted and made public before the coup.
The Neocons were caught red handed, and decided, ‘**** it’ (and “**** the EU”) and went ahead with it anyway.
Calling facts a ‘narrative’ doesn’t conveniently change the facts.
Nobody even disputes the call is a fact, except I guess you, because it doesn’t fit your preferred narrative.
An American diplomat got in trouble for saying something, well, undiplomatic.
Victoria Nuland, a top State Department official, thought she was having a private phone conversation. She was speaking about developments in Ukraine with the U.S. ambassador to that country, Geoffrey Pyatt. And she was speaking bluntly, even using a not-so-choice word about America's European allies.
It turned out their conversation was being recorded. The White House and the State Department suspect Russia is behind the episode.
To Crimea and the Donbas it was a coup. An elected president was forced to flee under duress, fear for his life. When that happens to the guy you support under suspicious circumstances it's a coup for sure. They voted for him 80-90% across the eastern regions. The western regions voted 10-20%. This vote was along language, culture and ethnic lines. Before the wars, some Ukrainians basically had the attitude that it's their country and Russians can get out. When the government also has this attitude this causes a problem for the Russians that have lived there all their lives.. even before Ukraine existed as a separate country.
You’re wrong.
Here’s the regional map showing vote distribution in the 2010 election.
You assert, without evidence, that this is false?
You’re wrong.
Here’s the regional map showing vote distribution in the 2010 election.
You assert, without evidence, that this is false?
Not what I was referring to.
This is pretty huge IMHO. He suddenly is more afraid of his own people and future with Ukraine than Putin…
