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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

"Model Burivey domestic jet artillery (Storm - Storm) was used by the Army on the battlefield. This launcher, which is quite small in number, is a modernized version of the BM-27 Uragan rocket launcher & is likely to be deployed in late 2021 & early 2022."



"On December 27, 2021, Army Recognition reported that the Ukrainian company Shepetivka Repair Plant going to launch the production of Bureviy 220 mm MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System) based on Tatra T-815-7 8x8 truck chassis from the Czech company Excalibur Army.


The Bureviy is a 220mm MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System) fully designed and developed by the Ukrainian company Shepetivka Repair Plant according to a request of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense to replace the old Soviet-made BM-27 220mm MLRS."

https://www.armyrecognition.com/ukr..._rocket_launcher_to_fight_russian_troops.html
 
That was the basis of what you'd posted. You supported what McCarthy and the MAGAs are pushing.

Now, you seem to want to back away from it.
Odd.
Oh look. More lies. First it was an "assurance", then it was a "notion" now you're on "basis".....

The beauty of an online forum is theres a trail of statements. If any of those existed, youd have zero issue quoting them, but you cant (because they dont exist).

Its impossible to back away from a statement that was never made. Again, you're not smart enough to read between the lines, so stick to the explicit.
 


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Oh look. More lies.
It's entirely consistent with your posts, and your support of the GOP Congresspersons asking for "oversight" without identifying specifics on what they are concerned about.

Or, what they "need in place" to allay their "alleged concerns" so they can continue supporting Ukraine like the European nations are.

More simply: WHAT are the European nations doing for "accountability" on support that the US is not?
 
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Oh look. More lies. First it was an "assurance", then it was a "notion" now you're on "basis".....

The beauty of an online forum is theres a trail of statements. If any of those existed, youd have zero issue quoting them, but you cant (because they dont exist).

Its impossible to back away from a statement that was never made. Again, you're not smart enough to read between the lines, so stick to the explicit.
Literally no one cares.
 
It's entirely consistent with your posts, and your support of the GOP Congresspersons asking for "oversight" without identifying specifics on what they are concerned about.

Or, what they "need in place" to allay their "alleged concerns" so they can continue supporting Ukraine like the European nations are.

More simply: WHAT are the European nations doing for "accountability" on support that the US is not?
I'm not supporting anyone. Those are MY views. Independent thought is a difficult concept for a pathological liar to grasp - I understand that.
So I'll keep calling you a liar until you prove otherwise.
And I'll keep contending the US needs to add and/or continue strict allocation records until such a time "aid packages" no longer include transfer accounts, funding for US farmers, funding for domestic mining and so on.
 
...which you as yet have NOT produced anything which identifies your actual concerns, and what types of traceability are adequate.

Oddly, that mimics EXACTLY what the MAGAs are saying...
Another lie. I posted my list of concerns and your reply was "I dont see any solutions". Why can you not make a post w/o a lie?
 
Are they effective against those Iranian drones?
At about $3 million a pop they’re intended for aircraft.

For those drones the Ukrainians need more of the Gephard’s from Germany. Low relative cost and effective.

We use these, old Close In Weapon System Gatling gun (originally intended as last ditch defense against incoming anti-ship missiles) as defense against rockets and mortars now. They have them at the Green Zone in Baghdad.
Can put it on a flatbed and move it around.

 
Why don't the European nations have those "same concerns"?
Perhaps there are already solutions, and your concerns are just more MAGA bullshit.
How would I have any idea about that? Or why I care? Its not my money, my country, my debt, or my problem.
$500M from the aid package going to US farmers? Funding domestic mining? Transfer funds? Yea, that concerns me.
Now, maybe you're contending the US should just supply some winter clothes and a couple hundred generators and thatd be fine? Sure, wouldnt have nearly the same concerns w/ that aid.
 
How would I have any idea about that? Or why I care? Its not my money, my country, my debt, or my problem.
$500M from the aid package going to US farmers? Funding domestic mining? Transfer funds? Yea, that concerns me.
Now, maybe you're contending the US should just supply some winter clothes and a couple hundred generators and thatd be fine? Sure, wouldnt have nearly the same concerns w/ that aid.
Domestic mining. Now there is the panacea for our problems. Are you real?
 
It's in the Ukrainian aid bill. Absurd right?

Only if you're a complete moron, that utterly forgot how dependent our own mining and military complex is on foreign sources of mined materials.

You do realize the logic behind that part, right? (Nvr mind, probably not. You've demonstrated rather lacking intellectual skills in this thread)
 
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