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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

"Engineers from the Ukrainian Armed Forces have just located a PTKM-1R top-attack anti-tank mine. 2.8 kg shaped charge AEM with a piercing capability of approximately 70 mm of armour."

 
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Thinking on this more, this is like the millionth of these videos posted and one common thing is they confirm most of this hamburger meat is coming from elsewhere in Russia and not the population center running the country in Moscow and St Petersburg.

So, one other issue Russia is facing is in addition to running out of equipment and running out of ground beef, they will be forced to really start bringing men from Moscow in the next mobilization and that will start making some major dents in public opinion in their Hunger Games like society.
 
US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said the battle for Bakhmut is unlikely to "change the tide of the war." Ukrainian forces are said to be in a "painful and difficult" battle in the Donbas. DW rounds up the latest.

US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said that Russia taking control of the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut would not mean that Ukraine was losing in the broader conflict.

Austin said the city was of more emblematic than practical value to Russia when it came to winning the war.

"I think it is more of a symbolic value than it is strategic and operational value," Austin told reporters while visiting Jordan.

"The fall of Bakhmut won't necessarily mean that the Russians have changed the tide of this fight," Austin added.

The Russian mercenary group Wagner has been at the forefront of Moscow's effort to capture Bakhmut.

Although the fight for the salt-mining city is one of the bloodiest of the war, analysts say that its capture would be of little additional strategic advantage in Donbas for Russia.

The Donbas region is made up of Donetsk and Luhansk, which Russia claims to have annexed despite never fully having controlled it.

The US-based Institute for the Study of War (ISW) has issued a warning that Ukrainian supply routes to Bakhmut are narrowing.

"The Russians may have intended to encircle Ukrainian forces in Bakhmut, but the Ukrainian command has signaled that it will likely withdraw rather than risk an encirclement," the report said.

Here are some of the other notable developments concerning the war in Ukraine on Monday, March 6:

Zelenskyy pays tribute to troops in Donbas

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy paid his tributes to the troops in combat with the Russian forces in the eastern Donbas region and called the battle "painful and difficult."

"I would like to pay special tribute to the bravery, strength and resilience of the soldiers fighting in the Donbas," Zelenskyy said, adding "this is one of the hardest battles. Painful and difficult."

Zelenskyy's tribute came after Ukraine's general staff reported that Ukrainian forces had pushed back "more than 130 enemy attacks" the previous day.

Zelenskyy said Ukraine's troops "repelled assaults, destroyed the occupier, undermined enemy positions and logistics, and protected our borders and cities."

 
US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said the battle for Bakhmut is unlikely to "change the tide of the war." Ukrainian forces are said to be in a "painful and difficult" battle in the Donbas. DW rounds up the latest.

US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said that Russia taking control of the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut would not mean that Ukraine was losing in the broader conflict.

Austin said the city was of more emblematic than practical value to Russia when it came to winning the war.

"I think it is more of a symbolic value than it is strategic and operational value," Austin told reporters while visiting Jordan.

"The fall of Bakhmut won't necessarily mean that the Russians have changed the tide of this fight," Austin added.

The Russian mercenary group Wagner has been at the forefront of Moscow's effort to capture Bakhmut.

Although the fight for the salt-mining city is one of the bloodiest of the war, analysts say that its capture would be of little additional strategic advantage in Donbas for Russia.

The Donbas region is made up of Donetsk and Luhansk, which Russia claims to have annexed despite never fully having controlled it.

The US-based Institute for the Study of War (ISW) has issued a warning that Ukrainian supply routes to Bakhmut are narrowing.

"The Russians may have intended to encircle Ukrainian forces in Bakhmut, but the Ukrainian command has signaled that it will likely withdraw rather than risk an encirclement," the report said.

Here are some of the other notable developments concerning the war in Ukraine on Monday, March 6:


Zelenskyy pays tribute to troops in Donbas

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy paid his tributes to the troops in combat with the Russian forces in the eastern Donbas region and called the battle "painful and difficult."

"I would like to pay special tribute to the bravery, strength and resilience of the soldiers fighting in the Donbas," Zelenskyy said, adding "this is one of the hardest battles. Painful and difficult."

Zelenskyy's tribute came after Ukraine's general staff reported that Ukrainian forces had pushed back "more than 130 enemy attacks" the previous day.

Zelenskyy said Ukraine's troops "repelled assaults, destroyed the occupier, undermined enemy positions and logistics, and protected our borders and cities."

Narrator voice “Almost one year ago, Putin and Russia transitioned their military goal to capturing all of Donbas by May Day. Of 2022.”
 
Pretty amazed the dude hasn't caught the dead...

The head of Russia's Wagner private army has said it is not getting the ammunition it needs from Moscow, as it seeks to gain control of Bakhmut.
Russian troops - from Wagner and regular Russian forces - are trying to seize the eastern city from Ukraine.
But Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin has complained of a lack of ammunition, saying it could be "ordinary bureaucracy or a betrayal".
Relations between Wagner and Moscow seem increasingly tense
.

The Wagner group has tens of thousands of troops in Ukraine - some recruited directly from Russian prisons - and has become a key part of Moscow's invasion.
In a post on Sunday, Mr Prigozhin said documents had been signed on 22 February, with ammunition expected to be sent to Bakhmut the next day.

But most had not been shipped, he said, before suggesting it could be deliberate.
And in a further sign of the rift, on Monday Mr Prigozhin said his representative was unable to access the headquarters of Russia's military command. It is unclear where the headquarters is located.
Mr Prigozhin said it came after he wrote to the chief of Russia's "special military operation", Army General Valery Gerasimov, about the "urgent necessity to give us ammunition".
Separately, in a video uploaded on Saturday - but seemingly filmed in February - Mr Prigozhin said his men feared that they were being "set up" as scapegoats in case Russia lost its war in Ukraine.
"If we step back, we will go down in history as the people who took the main step to lose the war," he said.
"And this is precisely the problem with the shell hunger [ammunition shortage]. This is not my opinion, but that of ordinary fighters...

"What if they [the Russian authorities] want to set us up, saying that we are scoundrels - and that's why they are not giving us ammunition, not giving us weapons, and not letting us replenish our personnel, including [recruiting] prisoners?"
In Saturday's video, Mr Prigozhin said Russia's front line would collapse without his troops.
"If Wagner PMC [private military company] were to now retreat from Bakhmut, then the entire front - which PMC Wagner today is cementing - would crumble."
He suggested Wagner fighters were taking on the "entire Ukrainian army ... destroying it" and depriving it of the chance to concentrate on other parts of the front.
While the private army was "moving forward", the Russian military was being forced to "catch up in order to save face", he implied.
Last month, Mr Prigozhin complained that Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov were withholding supplies of munitions to his troops.

 
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Those tanks could still have a place in this war. I'm under the assumption that you still need specialized munitions to get through that armor so if nothing else, it requires Ukraine to use specialized weapons which they could be running low on ammo. Plus, those tanks an still lob pretty large shells downrange indiscriminately.
 
Those tanks could still have a place in this war. I'm under the assumption that you still need specialized munitions to get through that armor so if nothing else, it requires Ukraine to use specialized weapons which they could be running low on ammo. Plus, those tanks an still lob pretty large shells downrange indiscriminately.
Since Ukraine is low on air assets (hence screaming for F-16's) digging in T-62'S as basically pill boxes would be semi-effective. Just something else the Ukrainians have to deal with taking back their land...:(
 
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US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said the battle for Bakhmut is unlikely to "change the tide of the war." Ukrainian forces are said to be in a "painful and difficult" battle in the Donbas. DW rounds up the latest.

US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said that Russia taking control of the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut would not mean that Ukraine was losing in the broader conflict.

Austin said the city was of more emblematic than practical value to Russia when it came to winning the war.

"I think it is more of a symbolic value than it is strategic and operational value," Austin told reporters while visiting Jordan.

"The fall of Bakhmut won't necessarily mean that the Russians have changed the tide of this fight," Austin added.

The Russian mercenary group Wagner has been at the forefront of Moscow's effort to capture Bakhmut.

Although the fight for the salt-mining city is one of the bloodiest of the war, analysts say that its capture would be of little additional strategic advantage in Donbas for Russia.

The Donbas region is made up of Donetsk and Luhansk, which Russia claims to have annexed despite never fully having controlled it.

The US-based Institute for the Study of War (ISW) has issued a warning that Ukrainian supply routes to Bakhmut are narrowing.

"The Russians may have intended to encircle Ukrainian forces in Bakhmut, but the Ukrainian command has signaled that it will likely withdraw rather than risk an encirclement," the report said.

Here are some of the other notable developments concerning the war in Ukraine on Monday, March 6:


Zelenskyy pays tribute to troops in Donbas

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy paid his tributes to the troops in combat with the Russian forces in the eastern Donbas region and called the battle "painful and difficult."

"I would like to pay special tribute to the bravery, strength and resilience of the soldiers fighting in the Donbas," Zelenskyy said, adding "this is one of the hardest battles. Painful and difficult."

Zelenskyy's tribute came after Ukraine's general staff reported that Ukrainian forces had pushed back "more than 130 enemy attacks" the previous day.

Zelenskyy said Ukraine's troops "repelled assaults, destroyed the occupier, undermined enemy positions and logistics, and protected our borders and cities."

I was reading last week that one of the reasons Putin wants Bakhmut so badly is that it's a town that completely threw away it's Soviet trappings. Dumped it's Soviet name and restored the name Bakhmut. Tore all it's Soviet era junk down. Restored language and customs. Putting them back under the boot, even if nobody lives in the remaining rubble piles, is critical to Putin.
 
Pretty amazed the dude hasn't caught the dead...

The head of Russia's Wagner private army has said it is not getting the ammunition it needs from Moscow, as it seeks to gain control of Bakhmut.
Russian troops - from Wagner and regular Russian forces - are trying to seize the eastern city from Ukraine.
But Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin has complained of a lack of ammunition, saying it could be "ordinary bureaucracy or a betrayal".
Relations between Wagner and Moscow seem increasingly tense
.

The Wagner group has tens of thousands of troops in Ukraine - some recruited directly from Russian prisons - and has become a key part of Moscow's invasion.
In a post on Sunday, Mr Prigozhin said documents had been signed on 22 February, with ammunition expected to be sent to Bakhmut the next day.

But most had not been shipped, he said, before suggesting it could be deliberate.
And in a further sign of the rift, on Monday Mr Prigozhin said his representative was unable to access the headquarters of Russia's military command. It is unclear where the headquarters is located.
Mr Prigozhin said it came after he wrote to the chief of Russia's "special military operation", Army General Valery Gerasimov, about the "urgent necessity to give us ammunition".
Separately, in a video uploaded on Saturday - but seemingly filmed in February - Mr Prigozhin said his men feared that they were being "set up" as scapegoats in case Russia lost its war in Ukraine.
"If we step back, we will go down in history as the people who took the main step to lose the war," he said.
"And this is precisely the problem with the shell hunger [ammunition shortage]. This is not my opinion, but that of ordinary fighters...

"What if they [the Russian authorities] want to set us up, saying that we are scoundrels - and that's why they are not giving us ammunition, not giving us weapons, and not letting us replenish our personnel, including [recruiting] prisoners?"
In Saturday's video, Mr Prigozhin said Russia's front line would collapse without his troops.
"If Wagner PMC [private military company] were to now retreat from Bakhmut, then the entire front - which PMC Wagner today is cementing - would crumble."
He suggested Wagner fighters were taking on the "entire Ukrainian army ... destroying it" and depriving it of the chance to concentrate on other parts of the front.
While the private army was "moving forward", the Russian military was being forced to "catch up in order to save face", he implied.
Last month, Mr Prigozhin complained that Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov were withholding supplies of munitions to his troops.


Falling out of a window takes time.
 
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CHASIV YAR, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian military leaders expressed determination Monday to hold onto Bakhmut as Russian forces encroached on the devastated eastern city they have sought to capture for six months at the cost of thousands of lives.

Less than a week ago, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said the defenders might retreat from Bakhmut and fall back to nearby positions.

But Zelenskyy’s office said Monday that he chaired a meeting in which the country’s top military brass “spoke in favor of continuing the defense operation and further strengthening our positions in Bakhmut.”

Intense Russian shelling targeted the city in the Donetsk region and nearby villages as Moscow deployed more resources to try to finish off Bakhmut’s resistance, according to local officials.

“Civilians are fleeing the region to escape Russian shelling continuing round the clock,” Donetsk Gov. Pavlo Kyrylenko said.

Russian forces that invaded Ukraine just over a year ago have been unable to deliver a knockout blow that would allow them to seize Bakhmut. Analysts say it does not have major strategic value and that its capture would be unlikely to serve as a turning point in the conflict.

The Russian push for Bakhmut reflects the Kremlin’s broader struggle to achieve battlefield momentum. Moscow’s full-scale invasion on Feb. 24, 2022, soon stalled, and Ukraine launched a largely successful counteroffensive. Over the bitterly cold winter months, the fighting has largely been deadlocked.

The city’s importance has become symbolic. For Russian President Vladimir Putin, prevailing there would finally deliver some good news from the front. For Kyiv the display of grit and defiance reinforces a message that Ukraine is holding on after a year of brutal attacks, justifying continued support from its Western allies.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin endorsed that view Monday, saying during a visit to Jordan that Bakhmut has “more of a symbolic value than … strategic and operational value.”

Moscow, he added, is “continuing to pour in a lot of ill-trained and ill-equipped troops” into Bakhmut, while Ukraine is patiently “building combat power” elsewhere with Western military support ahead of a possible spring offensive.

Even so, some analysts question the wisdom of pressing the Ukrainian defenders to hold out much longer. Others suggest that a tactical withdrawal may already be underway.

 
CHASIV YAR, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian military leaders expressed determination Monday to hold onto Bakhmut as Russian forces encroached on the devastated eastern city they have sought to capture for six months at the cost of thousands of lives.

Less than a week ago, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said the defenders might retreat from Bakhmut and fall back to nearby positions.

But Zelenskyy’s office said Monday that he chaired a meeting in which the country’s top military brass “spoke in favor of continuing the defense operation and further strengthening our positions in Bakhmut.”

Intense Russian shelling targeted the city in the Donetsk region and nearby villages as Moscow deployed more resources to try to finish off Bakhmut’s resistance, according to local officials.

“Civilians are fleeing the region to escape Russian shelling continuing round the clock,” Donetsk Gov. Pavlo Kyrylenko said.

Russian forces that invaded Ukraine just over a year ago have been unable to deliver a knockout blow that would allow them to seize Bakhmut. Analysts say it does not have major strategic value and that its capture would be unlikely to serve as a turning point in the conflict.

The Russian push for Bakhmut reflects the Kremlin’s broader struggle to achieve battlefield momentum. Moscow’s full-scale invasion on Feb. 24, 2022, soon stalled, and Ukraine launched a largely successful counteroffensive. Over the bitterly cold winter months, the fighting has largely been deadlocked.

The city’s importance has become symbolic. For Russian President Vladimir Putin, prevailing there would finally deliver some good news from the front. For Kyiv the display of grit and defiance reinforces a message that Ukraine is holding on after a year of brutal attacks, justifying continued support from its Western allies.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin endorsed that view Monday, saying during a visit to Jordan that Bakhmut has “more of a symbolic value than … strategic and operational value.”

Moscow, he added, is “continuing to pour in a lot of ill-trained and ill-equipped troops” into Bakhmut, while Ukraine is patiently “building combat power” elsewhere with Western military support ahead of a possible spring offensive.

Even so, some analysts question the wisdom of pressing the Ukrainian defenders to hold out much longer. Others suggest that a tactical withdrawal may already be underway.

Symbolically, this is probably the right move for optics, albeit at a horrible price in blood.
 
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