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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

h-hawk said:
Hoping against hope, (?) that this is still a Western disinformation campaign.

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One map includes a "mud-frozen ground timeline", assessing ground conditions across eastern Ukraine as spring progresses.
After a winter that has tested Ukraine's air defences to the limit, there's also a sobering analysis of Kyiv's diminishing air defence capability, as it seeks to balance its limited resources to protect civilians, critical infrastructure and its frontline troops.

Not only do the leaked documents say a lot about the state of Ukraine's military - they also talk about some of Washington's other allies. From Israel to South Korea, the documents reveal internal debates those countries are having about Ukraine and other sensitive issues.
Some of the documents are marked top secret, others to be shared only with America's closest intelligence allies.

How much of this is new?​

A lot of the detail here is familiar. There's just a lot more of it, and it's all in one place.
Take casualty figures. It comes as little surprise to learn that the US estimates that between 189,500 and 223,000 Russian soldiers have been killed or wounded.
The equivalent figure for Ukraine's losses - between 124,500 and 131,000 - is also in line with ballpark figures briefed to journalists in recent weeks.
In both cases, the Pentagon says it has "low confidence" in the figures, due to gaps in information, operational security and deliberate attempts, probably by both sides, to mislead.


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binsfeldcyhawk2 said:
One map includes a "mud-frozen ground timeline", assessing ground conditions across eastern Ukraine as spring progresses.
After a winter that has tested Ukraine's air defences to the limit, there's also a sobering analysis of Kyiv's diminishing air defence capability, as it seeks to balance its limited resources to protect civilians, critical infrastructure and its frontline troops.

Not only do the leaked documents say a lot about the state of Ukraine's military - they also talk about some of Washington's other allies. From Israel to South Korea, the documents reveal internal debates those countries are having about Ukraine and other sensitive issues.
Some of the documents are marked top secret, others to be shared only with America's closest intelligence allies.

How much of this is new?​

A lot of the detail here is familiar. There's just a lot more of it, and it's all in one place.
Take casualty figures. It comes as little surprise to learn that the US estimates that between 189,500 and 223,000 Russian soldiers have been killed or wounded.
The equivalent figure for Ukraine's losses - between 124,500 and 131,000 - is also in line with ballpark figures briefed to journalists in recent weeks.
In both cases, the Pentagon says it has "low confidence" in the figures, due to gaps in information, operational security and deliberate attempts, probably by both sides, to mislead.


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Ukraine war: Who leaked top secret US documents - and why?

Almost 100 US defence department documents have been leaked - and it is unclear who will benefit.
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If the casualty figures are accurate...it looks like 2 to 1.....just numbers crunching, Ukraine needs better than that.
 
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h-hawk said:
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This is pretty troubling...

Ukraine’s missiles and ammunition could run out “within weeks,” according to a large leak of classified military documents.

One of the documents marked “Secret” shows how Ukraine’s Soviet-era S-300 air defence systems will be depleted by 2 May if the Ukrainian forces continue to use the ammunition at the current rate.

The documents appear to represent a significant breach of American intelligence, detailing information that has not been publicly stated by the Pentagon.

Kyiv has been forced to amend some of its military plans ahead of a much-vaunted counter-offensive due to a leak of classified US documents, CNN reported on Monday citing a source close to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Ukrainian officials told Reuters on Friday the allegedly leaked documents contained fictitious information and looked like a Russian disinformation campaign.

US officials are trying to find the source of a leak of classified documents detailing a wide array of topics from Ukraine‘s air defences to Israel’s Mossad spy agency.

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Ukraine missiles could run out ‘within weeks,’ leaked documents reveal – latest

Ukraine-Russia war latest news: Leaked US documents reveals Kyiv’s air defence could run out ‘within weeks’, as the Pentagon investigates leak source
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binsfeldcyhawk2 said:
This is pretty troubling...

Ukraine’s missiles and ammunition could run out “within weeks,” according to a large leak of classified military documents.

One of the documents marked “Secret” shows how Ukraine’s Soviet-era S-300 air defence systems will be depleted by 2 May if the Ukrainian forces continue to use the ammunition at the current rate.

The documents appear to represent a significant breach of American intelligence, detailing information that has not been publicly stated by the Pentagon.

Kyiv has been forced to amend some of its military plans ahead of a much-vaunted counter-offensive due to a leak of classified US documents, CNN reported on Monday citing a source close to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Ukrainian officials told Reuters on Friday the allegedly leaked documents contained fictitious information and looked like a Russian disinformation campaign.

US officials are trying to find the source of a leak of classified documents detailing a wide array of topics from Ukraine‘s air defences to Israel’s Mossad spy agency.

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Ukraine missiles could run out ‘within weeks,’ leaked documents reveal – latest

Ukraine-Russia war latest news: Leaked US documents reveals Kyiv’s air defence could run out ‘within weeks’, as the Pentagon investigates leak source
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I don't like what I am reading the past few days. Last time I was starting to feel like things were going sideways there was a huge turnaround with the introduction of HIMARS. Hopefully there is something that will tilt the battlefield towards Ukraine ASAP.
 
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"Expect to see them in action when Ukrainian forces shift from defense to offense. Look closely for ex-German Pionierpanzer 2A1 Dachs AEVs. The Dachs is the most numerous breaching vehicle in Ukrainian service. It could equip engineer battalions in one or more of the Ukrainian army’s heaviest brigades.




A promotional video from German vehicle-maker Rheinmetall depicts an elegant breach—the kind the firm designed the Dachs to perform. The video features a Pionierpanzer 3 Kodiak, the successor to the 1980s-vintage Dachs. But in a breach, the Dachs works the same way.


While tanks provide covering fire, a 43-ton, three-crew Dachs rolls along a lane that a mine-clearing vehicle has plowed or rolled through any mines abutting the trench and berm that anchors the defensive line."https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...t-a-hole-in-russian-defenses/?sh=71045efa33ff
 
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Tenacious E said:
I don't like what I am reading the past few days. Last time I was starting to feel like things were going sideways there was a huge turnaround with the introduction of HIMARS. Hopefully there is something that will tilt the battlefield towards Ukraine ASAP.
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Here's what the Ukrainians had to say about it in the Wall Street Journal:

Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak called the documents “a bluff” by Russia “to regain the information initiative.” If Russia had genuine access to Pentagon information on the Ukrainian offensive, he said, it wouldn’t have made it public, and would have used the knowledge to prepare a trap instead.


“As for the real plans of the counteroffensive—Russian troops, without a question, will be the first to become acquainted with them,” he said. “I suppose that this may happen very soon.”

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Ukraine Strikes Russian Military Base in Occupied South as Offensive Looms

The strike is the latest in a growing campaign by Ukrainian forces to weaken Russia’s hold in the south.
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torbee said:
Here's what the Ukrainians had to say about it in the Wall Street Journal:

Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak called the documents “a bluff” by Russia “to regain the information initiative.” If Russia had genuine access to Pentagon information on the Ukrainian offensive, he said, it wouldn’t have made it public, and would have used the knowledge to prepare a trap instead.


“As for the real plans of the counteroffensive—Russian troops, without a question, will be the first to become acquainted with them,” he said. “I suppose that this may happen very soon.”

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Ukraine Strikes Russian Military Base in Occupied South as Offensive Looms

The strike is the latest in a growing campaign by Ukrainian forces to weaken Russia’s hold in the south.
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Sure hope you're right Torbs.
 
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KYIV, Ukraine — The men in uniform could show up almost anywhere, any time.
They knock on civilians’ front doors and randomly stop them on street corners, handing out draft papers that can turn lives upside down.
Ukraine needs more soldiers — and fast. Kyiv is preparing for an imminent assault on Russian occupying forces, and while Ukraine does not disclose its casualty counts, commanders in the field have described large losses. In February, a German official said Berlin believed at least 120,000 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed or wounded since the start of the invasion.

“We need to understand if the war lasts another year, we’re all going to be in the army,” said Sasha, 35, a casting director and amateur kickboxer who is taking a private military training course in the capital in case he is drafted. He spoke on the condition that only his first name be used, because of concerns over publicizing his mobilization status.
A much-hyped spring counteroffensive will rely on both new soldiers and more experienced troops newly trained on donated Western equipment, including Leopard 2 tanks. And the pace and aggression with which officials are now calling on civilian men to report to military offices — or sign up on their own — are sowing panic among those who feel unprepared or unwilling to serve.

Previously, officials could only deliver draft papers to people’s homes, and some avoided the notices by staying at different addresses than where they are officially registered. But new rules have widened the scope of places where men can be stopped and questioned about their draft status.

Martial law in place in Ukraine since February 2022 bars most men between ages 18 and 60 from leaving the country. Under mobilization rules, any man in that range can theoretically be called to fight. Exceptions are made, including for students; parents with three or more children under 18; caretakers of disabled dependents; and those deemed medically unfit, among others.

Almost a quarter-million Ukrainians will turn 18 this year — making them old enough to sign up to fight, or, if they’re male and still in the country, too old to leave.

The Ukrainian army has long relied on volunteers. But now many Ukrainian men — even those working as volunteers or doing other useful jobs as civilians — cannot escape the draft, or at least registering in military offices.

Oleksii Kruchukov, 46, a washing machine repairman waiting in line outside a recruitment office in Kyiv, said he was ordered to report there after police broke up a fight he got into on the street. He did not have any valid military exemptions and said he expected that the incident will result in him soon being sent to training, and then the front.
Oleksandr Kostiuk, 52, a road repairman who helped set up barriers against Russian forces around Kyiv last year, recently received his notice via his human resources department at work. He is willing to go to the front if he has to — but fears for his safety. “Now we understand what’s going on, so I’m more nervous,” he said.

Thousands of other civilians are preempting such situations, instead signing up in droves for a force called the Offensive Guard — made up of eight new assault brigades.
Some are responding to the posters plastered across the country’s highways calling on civilians to join — and “turn your rage into a weapon.” The young men may have recently turned 18 and now qualify, or have cleared up family obligations that previously stopped them from joining. Others hope enlisting of their own accord will give them better training and prestige than if they were drafted.


 
As noted earlier, these are specially reinforced highways. (Apparently you will have to take my word for it!)

"The Ukrainian Su-27 and MiG-29 fighter jets takes off from a road somewhere in Ukraine. Notice the green camouflage of the Su-27."




 
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Sure hope you're right Torbs.
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CNN —
Highly classified Pentagon documents leaked online in recent weeks have provided a rare window into how the US spies on allies and foes alike, deeply rattling US officials, who fear the revelations could jeopardize sensitive sources and compromise important foreign relationships.

Some of the documents, which US officials say are authentic, expose the extent of US eavesdropping on key allies, including South Korea, Israel and Ukraine.

Others reveal the degree to which the US has penetrated the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Russian mercenary organization Wagner Group, largely through intercepted communications and human sources, which could now be cut off or put in danger.


Still others divulge key weaknesses in Ukrainian weaponry, air defense, and battalion sizes and readiness at a critical point in the war, as Ukrainian forces gear up to launch a counteroffensive against the Russians – and just as the US and Ukraine have begun to develop a more mutually trusting relationship over intelligence-sharing.

Ukraine has already altered some of its military plans because of the leak, a source close to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told CNN.

 

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Spying on friends​

CNN has reviewed 53 leaked documents, all of which appear to have been produced between mid-February and early March.

One document reveals that the US has been spying on Zelensky. That is unsurprising, said the source close to Zelensky, but Ukrainian officials are deeply frustrated about the leak.

The US intelligence report, which is sourced to signals intelligence, says that Zelensky in late February “suggested striking Russian deployment locations in Russia’s Rostov Oblast” using unmanned aerial vehicles, since Ukraine does not have long-range weapons capable of reaching that far.
Signals intelligence includes intercepted communications and is broadly defined by the National Security Agency as “intelligence derived from electronic signals and systems used by foreign targets, such as communications systems, radars, and weapons systems.”

The intelligence could explain public US comments about not wanting to give Ukraine long-range missile systems over fears that Kyiv will use them to strike inside Russia. But Ukraine has pledged not to use US-provided weapons to do so.

Relatedly, another intelligence report says that China could use Ukrainian strikes on targets deep inside Russia “as an opportunity to cast NATO as the aggressor, and may increase its aid to Russia if it deems the attacks were significant.”

Mykhailo Podolyak, the adviser to the head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, said on his Telegram channel Friday that he believes the documents that have been disseminated are inauthentic, have “nothing to do with Ukraine’s real plans” and are based on “a large amount of fictitious information” disseminated by Russia.

Yet another document describes, in remarkable detail, a conversation between two senior South Korean national security officials about concerns by the country’s National Security Council over a US request for ammunition.

The officials worried that supplying the ammunition, which the US would then send to Ukraine, would violate South Korea’s policy of not supplying lethal aid to countries at war. According to the document, one of the officials then suggested a way of getting around the policy without actually changing it – by selling the ammunition to Poland.

The document has already sparked controversy in Seoul, with South Korean officials telling reporters that they plan to raise the issue with Washington.

Officials from other countries also plan to raise the matter with Washington, but they have not had those conversations yet as they wait to see what the Biden administration says about the leaked documents in the coming days, multiple diplomats said.
An intelligence report about Israel, meanwhile, has sparked outrage in Jerusalem. The report, produced by the CIA and sourced to signals intelligence, says that Israel’s main intelligence agency, the Mossad, had been encouraging protests against the country’s new government – “including several explicit calls to action,” the report alleges.

The Israeli Prime Minister’s Office responded on the Mossad’s behalf Sunday morning, calling the report “mendacious and without any foundation whatsoever.”

“The Mossad and its senior officials did not – and do not – encourage agency personnel to join the demonstrations against the government, political demonstrations or any political activity,” the statement said. “The Mossad and its serving senior personnel have not engaged in the issue of the demonstrations at all and are dedicated to the value of service to the state that has guided the Mossad since its founding.”

Another classified document, also sourced to signals intelligence, offers a window into how the US assesses its allies’ policies – and how the US can exert its influence to change them.

The document, titled “Israel: Pathways to Providing Lethal Aid to Ukraine,” says Jerusalem “likely will consider providing lethal aid under increased US pressure or a perceived degradation” in its relationship with Russia.

Another document reveals what the US thin ks about some European countries’ intentions to donate fighter jets to Ukraine, which has been asking for the planes for over a year.

On February 23, the report says, Bulgaria expressed willingness to donate its fleet of MiG-29 jets to Ukraine – a “challenge,” the report assesses, because it will leave Bulgaria without fighter aircraft to fulfill its air policing missions until US-made F-16s are delivered, “which is at least a year away.”

 
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And we'll either get crickets or "excuses" from our buddy @Phenomenally Frantastic
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I can’t be expected to answer to every bit of misinformation you bring to this thread. A suggestion, do a better job of vetting your information or source before falling prey to your daily poutrage article then polluting this thread with it. The damn links states “SUGGESTS” yet here is your dumbass up in arms as if it is fact.

Try not falling for every bit of BS you see dipshit.
 
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Yes; I was reasonably sure you'd just ignore it.
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Do you take pride in being the easiest propaganda mark on this board?

Who wins if a wedge is driven between Musk and his support for Ukraine?

Is Putin and the KGB willing to use disinfo and misinfo by proxies to drive that wedge? Yes or no?

Now try to convince me you aren’t a misguided brainless sheep with your answers.
 
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