This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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I tend to get pissed when Democratic nations are over run by foreign dictators. And the US that previously stood up to said dictators cowers away
You realize that if we had put troops in Ukraine this wouldn't have happened and Putin would have blinked.
Maybe you're learning here, that Russia is not a nation of laws. It is a nation of ruling elites, mobsters, who do what they want.
EDIT: And this is EXACTLY what Ukraine is fighting against, so they do not fall under a State-Run-Mafia again.
You don't freakin know if they were though. You presume they were just lost poor Russian guys on the streets vs maybe some Russian better trained assholes with bad intent. You tip your cap when you do that to your Pro Russian nature that literally everyone on the board knows you have for some odd reason.
Just read that...and if there are doubts about a lack of Russian infantry....according to the US these are infantry units.
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One thing this invasion has shown to me is that aside from nuclear weapons, there is nothing to fear from Russia's armed forces. They are woefully underprepared for an actual war. The concerning thing is that they know this however in which case they may be willing to use those weapons if necessary.
I’ll give them that. Their parades are terrific! I wish President Biden would have a bunch of mothballed M-60s and M-103s painted, polished and arranged in columns for a parade. It’s roughly equivalent hardware to what the Russians show off.
Come on man. Libya, Somalia and Syria?!?!? What's wrong with you?
We can't promise 100% protection to the entire planet,.. The NATO border is well known by all parties involved here and I have no fear that it will go undefended if that becomes necessary.
It will be over soon now.
Isn’t that nuts? In WW2 they had easily the best tanks in the world.
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Honestly that’s what I’m seeing too…if this were to somehow turn into WWIII it would either end in nukes, or NATO dictating Russia’s surrender in Moscow….I thought they were a modern military, sure doesn’t look like it on TV….
Russia is going to become an international pariah over this,.. I'm closely watching China to see how long it takes for them to dump their new buddy,.. Nothing yet.
I guess there is some possibility they're commando/saboteurs roaming around a Ukrainian city in a giant military truck with an anti-aircraft gun mounted in the bed. But I do figure it more likely they're just low level schmucks that got separated from their unit and found themselves in a hornet's nest of small arms fire.
That was the interesting thing to me about the scenario.
Being able to grasp someone else's viewpoint, and being able to articulate that viewpoint to others, doesn't mean sharing it, but you like to leap to that conclusion.
I've learned to not worry about it.
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I've already started seeing these references on my FB this morning.
China is all-in with it.
WW III is gonna be Asia vs Europe and North America
South America may be the only "winners" when it's all said and done.
My bad - I just noticed the skulls and thought it represented Ukraine.
Wrong-I have made numerous posts in this thread alone that some of these poor bastards being mislead into war give hope that they may be able to get some to quit fighting. You have a history for YEARS being pro Russian so you are going to be called out when you get misty eyed responding to that video as assuming they are poor guys lost on the streets of Kyiv. A better response would be "What an asshole Putin is sending those poor bastards to get lost and die like that, Russia sucks"
They're estimates (often inflated) but you can still get a reasonable idea by accounting for tank crew/air crew numbers on destroyed equipment/carriers and infantry bodies.
It’s the same realization we came to as a country when we got our hands on the dreaded MiG-25 Foxbat. It was a grossly overweight, problematic POS that was incapable of threatening the SR-71, as the propaganda train had led many to believe. This has occurred time and time again with the Russians. There are scary pictures, boastful claims, dazzling parades and worldwide hyperbole. Then, a battle occurs. And their advanced weaponry proves to be garbage.
It seems like it's awfully early in the process to say that. For all we know these are small "feeling out" exercises designed to know where to focus more resources. If you mean 1 v 1, then maybe, but it seems they have the available bodies (and willingness) to make it 100 v 1 if they want.
I was going to say Russia has almost unlimited manpower they could sacrifice, until I looked up their population. Was surprised to see it is less than 1/2 of the U.S.
While I think they will ultimately prevail in Ukraine, I would be surprised if Putin tries to expand further. He just won’t have the bodies.
I do worry he will try to resort to nukes. If he does, I hope one of his underlings puts a bullet in him before he shoots one off.
Not if you narrow it down to nations that are under threat by potentially aggressive foreign powers on their borders.
That pretty much limits it to South Korea and Eastern Europe.
Hmmmmm. No.
China plays the long game. If they aren't already, they will soon be talking to Putin (and maybe Biden too) about "How do we walk this back and what solution can we have to make everyone save face?".
I actually would be more concerned if China was siding against Russia too.....safest thing for everyone right now might be that Russia has a friend.
Great point.
Christie suspension - Wikipedia
The Germans were shocked when they encountered the superb T34. Russia had been allowing them to secretly train in the Soviet Union and had kept it hidden.
I have this photo in a book and the description is something like, stunned German engineers examine T34s that had run out of fuel.
Now back to the current war where we are rooting against the Russians.
