Is Nat Algren dead or is he really Gen. Flynn?
Truth - this is full of winning. Ukraine gets the right tool for the job of clearing trenches dug into their own land by war criminals, they have way fewer "duds" than the other similar weapons they can get elsewhere (thereby decreasing the "inhumanity" of them), we have a shitload of them ready to ship immediately, and we get to get rid of a bunch of shells we pretty much will never use.Good example of a time I absolutely, positively do not stand with the liberals in the Democratic party:
This is dumb. Russia has been using them. Ukraine can use them to end the war faster. Do it.
Don't think they need them to clear trenches....at least not directly.Truth - this is full of winning. Ukraine gets the right tool for the job of clearing trenches dug into their own land by war criminals, they have way fewer "duds" than the other similar weapons they can get elsewhere (thereby decreasing the "inhumanity" of them), we have a shitload of them ready to ship immediately, and we get to get rid of a bunch of shells we pretty much will never use.
Just to add to this, we have provided about 2 million artillery rounds in a year and a half and it is putting a strain on our stocks. This article below estimates that have around 3 million cluster bombs: "A March 2023 letter from top House and Senate Republicans to the Biden administration said the U.S. may have as many as 3 million cluster munitions available for use, and urged the White House to send the munitions to alleviate pressure on U.S. war supplies." Couple that with this: "Cluster munition artillery shells and rockets have the ability to cover much more ground and do so faster with a smaller number of total shells. Combine this with the fact that the submunitions that are deployed from them can fall directly into trenches, resulting in devastating effects." Winning.Good example of a time I absolutely, positively do not stand with the liberals in the Democratic party:
This is dumb. Russia has been using them. Ukraine can use them to end the war faster. Do it.
They need them for a number of reasons, one of which is clearing trenches, pursuant to the below article. If the article is incorrect, then I stand corrected.Don't think they need them to clear trenches....at least not directly.
What they're really good at is area denial....most cluster munition have a combination of munitions that explode on impact and those that basically act as mines and are (supposed to) detonate after a predetermined amount of time if they aren't tripped. (this is the area of contention with cluster munitions). The area they cover can be pretty large based off what altitude the canister seperates at...
It keeps the Russians from being able to move up reinforcements and isolates units.
My bad....nasty weaponsThey need them for a number of reasons, one of which is clearing trenches, pursuant to the below article. If the article is incorrect, then I stand corrected.
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What DPICM Cluster Munitions Are And Why Ukraine Wants Them So Bad
Cluster munitions are highly controversial, but Ukraine has its reasons why they can be crucial to unseating deeply entrenched Russian forces.www.thedrive.com
Sink it anywayThey are nuts. Hope they are just claiming this and not evil enough to try it. As some responses say, probably will be military personnel and equipment.
Kill a bunch of innocent ppl. Sounds like what Russian do.Sink it anyway
Eff them.
Innocent people don't "cruise" on military ships.Kill a bunch of innocent ppl.
Don’t vacation in a war zone and certainly don’t use military transport to get there. If they decide to do so it is on them for being morons. Those ships are legitimate military targets.Kill a bunch of innocent ppl. Sounds like what Russian do.
Great call
Those civilians don’t matter.*I don't get why people are bitching about cluster bombs. US used them in Iraq and Afghanistan
Just to clarify, Russians have blown up schools, apartment complexes and grocery stores, yet you claim Ukraine can’t attack a Russia military ship because they are shielding it with civilians. What is the alternative let this ship kill more Ukraine civilians. Sounds brilliant. I know what I would do.Kill a bunch of innocent ppl. Sounds like what Russian do.
Great call