This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Gotta admit, Russia has some cool looking aircraft.
At least the ones that are still flying.
At least the ones that are still flying.
Still pulling for one more MLRS.
No surprise, right? Pootie again with the long game.
They've sold several to India since 2004, so they do still produce them. But they have few operational, and it won't be soon replaced.
Very curious how they got this one. I suspect we'll soon hear the F-16s have been operational.
The big uptick in aircraft downed likely has multiple “sources”, but the F-16 almost has to be a part of it. The “AWACS” losses in particular can dramatically change strategy on both sides.
There is another significant aspect to all of this, I have seen varying numbers of these aircraft, but the highest was 12 at the beginning of the war. Maybe fewer. 2 have been lost in combat. Figure one is always down for maintenance, there are training requirements, and some must be kept in the Far East to keep US forces and the Chinese honest, and along the border with NATO nations. So, how many do they actually have available to fly over Ukraine, or have they stripped away their security blanket in the Far East?
It isn't just Meloni, there have been a string of high level European leaders visiting Ukraine. I know she triggers a lot of you, but it's long overdue for VP Harris to show support with a visit. I'd honestly prefer Biden stay out given Putin's penchant for assassination. But, Harris probably isn't interesting enough to him to order a hit on. Chuck Schumer was in Kyiv yesterday, which is nice, but a VP visit gets more attention.
What I have heard is they only had 3-4 fully operational. The others were more frames that can be converted. The people operating them though is a major problem.
The top 5 Russian blunders of the war. The Kyiv Convoy and the failure of Russian air defenses quite rightly rank in the top 5. Both of these blunders show Russia's inability to coordinate and carry out tasks.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-top-5-blunders-two-years-ukraine-war-1872115
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-top-5-blunders-two-years-ukraine-war-1872115
No they haven't. While the airframe of the Indian awacs is a il76, the innards are an Israeli phalcon. They haven't sold India a single awacs. The Indian navy now uses Boeing poseidons p8i's for naval surveillance along with American drones. The sole Russian Air asset, the il38 may is retired. Indian airforce uses a home grown awacs on an Embraer business jet airframe soon to move to a Boeing or airbus frame. The phalcon has been a grande dud due to the reliability of iluyshin and India smartly didn't buy any a50 mainstays. The plaaf does use them and their copies. The Indian airforce last bought il76's in the 90's and has since switched to the Boeing c17 and Lockheed Martin c130j hercules.
3 in service, 2 on order:
A-50EI (Il-76) of the Indian Air Force with the EL/W-2090
In March 2004, as a part of a tri-partite deal among Israel, India, and Russia, Israel and India signed a US$1.1 billion deal according to which IAI would deliver the Indian Air Force three AEW&C radar systems, each of which was worth approximately $350 million.[3][4] India signed a deal with Ilyushin of Russia for the supply of three Il-76 A-50 heavy airlifters, which were to be used as platforms for these radar systems, for an additional US $500 million. The first aircraft was delivered to India on 25 May 2009, landing at Jamnagar AFS in Gujarat, completing its 8 hour long journey from Israel.[5]
In November, 2016, India signed another deal to purchase two more AEW&C radar systems to purchase two additional systems for $1-1.4 billion, with scheduled within the next 3 years.[6][7] As of end 2023, India has three EL/W-2090 systems in service.[8][9]
The three is it. End of story. There are no follow ons. Unlike you, I have relatives in that airforce. India doesn't want any more il76 airframes. You're citing ancient shit that has no relevance today.3 in service, 2 on order:
A-50EI (Il-76) of the Indian Air Force with the EL/W-2090
In March 2004, as a part of a tri-partite deal among Israel, India, and Russia, Israel and India signed a US$1.1 billion deal according to which IAI would deliver the Indian Air Force three AEW&C radar systems, each of which was worth approximately $350 million.[3][4] India signed a deal with Ilyushin of Russia for the supply of three Il-76 A-50 heavy airlifters, which were to be used as platforms for these radar systems, for an additional US $500 million. The first aircraft was delivered to India on 25 May 2009, landing at Jamnagar AFS in Gujarat, completing its 8 hour long journey from Israel.[5]
In November, 2016, India signed another deal to purchase two more AEW&C radar systems to purchase two additional systems for $1-1.4 billion, with scheduled within the next 3 years.[6][7] As of end 2023, India has three EL/W-2090 systems in service.[8][9]
Dude you're talking about things that are multiple decades old. Moreover, the radar in those planes is Israeli, not Russian, unlike the normal a50. Only the airframe is the same. If purchases from 2004 make you ejaculate, go nuts.
That’s a lot to say I was right and you were wrong regarding the sales, but apology accepted.
I’m sorry I’m not sorry you were demonstrably wrong and can’t seem to accept it.
Lol yup you sure did. You're a veritable Jane's Defence.
I wonder how significant these recent security agreements are.
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The VERA passive surveillance ESM system is an electronic support measures system that uses measurements of time difference of arrival of pulses at three or four sites to accurately detect and track airborne emitters. It is reportedly able to detect military "invisible aircraft". Wikipedia
More on Speaker Johnson's goal of aiding Russia. (And blocking attempts to stop illegal immigration)
www.forbes.com
Republican control of the House has been a disaster for US foreign policy abroad, and border security at home.
Johnson Intended To Stop Ukraine Aid, Not Pass An Immigration Bill
After months of immigration talks, it is clear Speaker Johnson wanted to prevent the House of Representatives from voting on Ukraine aid.
www.forbes.com
Republican control of the House has been a disaster for US foreign policy abroad, and border security at home.
Biden is the Commander in Chief and can secure the border anytime he wishes. He just doesn’t want to.More on Speaker Johnson's goal of aiding Russia. (And blocking attempts to stop illegal immigration)
Johnson Intended To Stop Ukraine Aid, Not Pass An Immigration Bill
After months of immigration talks, it is clear Speaker Johnson wanted to prevent the House of Representatives from voting on Ukraine aid.
Republican control of the House has been a disaster for US foreign policy abroad, and border security at home.
Got to move those bananas!
QUITO, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Ecuador's government has canceled a plan to trade outdated Soviet weapons for new arms from the United States, President Daniel Noboa said, after learning the old weapons would have been sent to Ukraine.
Noboa, who is grappling with sharply deteriorated security and has declared 22 criminal gangs to be terrorist groups, said in January that Washington would give his country $200 million of new weaponry in exchange for "junk" arms
"Russia is our third-largest commercial partner, and in this particular case they were right, we would have been triangulating arms and we won't do that," Noboa said, giving no further details.
The full interview is set to air on CNN on Sunday.
A spokesperson at the U.S. Embassy in Quito said they had no information on the policy change.
Several high-ranking U.S. officials have visited Ecuador in recent weeks to discuss cooperation on security issues.
"To our surprise, the United States has communicated publicly that it will take (the arms) for the armed conflict in Ukraine, in which we do not want to take part, nor do we want to triangulate weapons for it," Noboa told CNN in an interview clip shared on Thursday. "We can't go ahead with it."
Russia last week lifted a ban on banana imports from five Ecuadorean businesses. It had said there were sanitary issues with the shipments.
The spokeswoman for the foreign ministry of Russia, which invaded Ukraine two years ago, criticized the arms exchange earlier this month."
QUITO, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Ecuador's government has canceled a plan to trade outdated Soviet weapons for new arms from the United States, President Daniel Noboa said, after learning the old weapons would have been sent to Ukraine.
Noboa, who is grappling with sharply deteriorated security and has declared 22 criminal gangs to be terrorist groups, said in January that Washington would give his country $200 million of new weaponry in exchange for "junk" arms
"Russia is our third-largest commercial partner, and in this particular case they were right, we would have been triangulating arms and we won't do that," Noboa said, giving no further details.
The full interview is set to air on CNN on Sunday.
A spokesperson at the U.S. Embassy in Quito said they had no information on the policy change.
Several high-ranking U.S. officials have visited Ecuador in recent weeks to discuss cooperation on security issues.
"To our surprise, the United States has communicated publicly that it will take (the arms) for the armed conflict in Ukraine, in which we do not want to take part, nor do we want to triangulate weapons for it," Noboa told CNN in an interview clip shared on Thursday. "We can't go ahead with it."
Russia last week lifted a ban on banana imports from five Ecuadorean businesses. It had said there were sanitary issues with the shipments.
The spokeswoman for the foreign ministry of Russia, which invaded Ukraine two years ago, criticized the arms exchange earlier this month."
No; he cannot.
Any "policy" or "Executive Order" he tries to put into place has to follow existing laws, or it can be challenged in court.
That's not what Fox and Newsmax is telling their viewers.
They realize their viewers are high school dropouts.
Howard Buffet has donated over $500 million dollars to Ukraine, and has pledged $300 million for 2024.
https://omaha.com/news/local/friend...cle_7f51e7ea-c051-11ee-8e8f-d7189cf2c604.html
https://omaha.com/news/local/friend...cle_7f51e7ea-c051-11ee-8e8f-d7189cf2c604.html
Germany has accepted its first delivery at the new Mukran LNG terminal. Another step towards independence from Russian energy.
https://www.reuters.com/business/en...rrives-new-german-mukran-terminal-2024-02-24/
https://www.reuters.com/business/en...rrives-new-german-mukran-terminal-2024-02-24/
