This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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I wonder if some of the components for these can be made in the West and shipped into Ukraine to speed up the process.
Maybe it was to give Putin a last chance before giving Ukraine even more deadly support. Though it appears Germany is hanging on to the Taurus cruise missiles for their own use.
You truly are the biggest numpty on this board.
So imagine that the Soviets give them ICMBs without nukes, basically glorified V-2s, and they start raining down in American cities.
How do you think LBJ would respond?
Consider it an act of war by the Soviets supplying the missiles that are landing in American cities?
Tuck tail in Vietnam and run?
Just eat it?
Do you think the current CIA Director is a Putin puppet because he warned every administration since Bush that NATO expansion would not be accepted by the Russians?
You won't answer, because you're incapable of critical thinking.
You only ask stupid, non related asinine questions about hypothetical stuff and then incessantly demand people answer because you are a Ron Paul / Russian loving numpty and no matter what, you have to advance that bizarre, USA loathing, agenda. You do this because you are incapable of debating the actual point.
Finland joined NATO and not a peep.
Start sinking the Russian ships.
No more "escorting" out of the area. Send them to the bottom, and no support for anyone who ends up in the drink. Let 'em drown.
For the graphic and not the bombast. If Russia is involved the West will want to be sure before saying anything.
"The incident on the fibre optic cable line C Lion 1 in #Finnland appears to have indeed been a Russian attack.The West seems to be so shocked by the incident that they barely report on the vehemence and magnitude of this event.If it were a false flag operation, they would have been reporting non-stop for hours about a Russian attack on the #Nato .I think this was a clear warning from the Kremlin to the EU and NATO.
"The economic damage of disrupting the undersea fiber optic connections between the US and the EU would be greater than the detonation of a dozen nuclear bombs. I think the warning has been received. Hence the radio silence."
"The incident on the fibre optic cable line C Lion 1 in #Finnland appears to have indeed been a Russian attack.The West seems to be so shocked by the incident that they barely report on the vehemence and magnitude of this event.If it were a false flag operation, they would have been reporting non-stop for hours about a Russian attack on the #Nato .I think this was a clear warning from the Kremlin to the EU and NATO.
"The economic damage of disrupting the undersea fiber optic connections between the US and the EU would be greater than the detonation of a dozen nuclear bombs. I think the warning has been received. Hence the radio silence."
I'm seeing if you have the ability to think critically. That's what a hypothetical tests.
Can you do more than repeat slogans like 'Putin puppet' or 'Putin propaganda'?
There's no evidence of it.
I can't imagine how ignorant one has to be of current events to think that the warnings of the former Russian ambassador and current CIA director on NATO expansion are 'non related', yet here you are, making it clear how little you understand about how we go to this point.
I love Ron Paul, because he loves liberty, and hates the neocon agenda of permanent wars abroad that do nothing but bleed American lives and treasure, while creating enmity for us around the globe.
There's nothing I love about Russia. Each time I ask you to provide evidence you don't. It's just a baseless charge to evade discussion.
Have you no inkling of how far the world's appraisal of our country has fallen since the neocons hijacked our foreign policy?
SCHMITZ: Yeah, the survey is called the Democracy Perception Index, and it's been conducted each year since 2018 by the Berlin-based research firm Latana and the Alliance of Democracies, which is a nonprofit based in Copenhagen dedicated to the advancement of democracy. This is the largest survey on democracy in the world. The goal here is to try and dig into what people see as the biggest threats to democracy globally.
MARTIN: And what are they?
SCHMITZ: Well, the first ones you would probably predict, yes, these probably are big threats - economic inequality, limits on free speech, unfair elections and social media. But 44% of those surveyed said another threat to democracy worldwide is the influence of the United States. That ranked higher than the influence of China or Russia. I spoke to Fred DeVeaux about this finding. He's a senior researcher at Latana. And he said, by and large, there was one region responsible for this perception of the U.S. as a threat to democracy.
FRED DEVEAUX: In most of the world, most people think the United States has a more positive impact than negative impact. But in European countries and many of the United States' allies, the balance is actually the other way, where more people say that the United States has a negative impact on democracy than positive.
And because you can't think critically, you have no idea why this is the case.
Loathing the neocon agenda of endless war isn't loathing America, anymore than loathing the Vietnam War required loathing America.
Attempting to conflate them is just a rhetorical trick to avoid debating the folly of that agenda by trying to besmirch the other person's patriotism.
What point do you think I'm unwilling to debate? It's not I who refuses to answer the questions posed.
Ukraine invasion critic and one of the most coordinated people in the world fell from his balcony.
www.cbsnews.com
Famed Russian ballet dancer Vladimir Shklyarov, 39, dies in fall from balcony in Saint Petersburg
Ballet dancer Vladimir Shklyarov fell from a fifth-floor balcony after taking painkillers ahead of back surgery, Russian media reported.
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The Brits had to escort a Russian ship away from a cluster of cables off of the coast of Ireland last week. Vlad is getting desperate, and making threats.
No more "escorting"
Sink them. Save the crew and use them as bargaining chips against territory Russia has seized.
Or, don't save the crew.
Maybe give Vlad one mulligan; next ship that gets sunk the crew goes down with it like the Moskva.
I was wondering if there are any cables Russia depends on that could be mysteriously cut and found this.
"During the massive attack on Ukraine on November 17, a Ukrainian defender shot down an enemy missile from a portable anti-aircraft missile system"
Dead bodies.
Dead bodies.
You quoted the wrong post.
The JCS did advise JFK to invade Cuba, that wasn't a hypothetical. Instead he de-escalated.
Why did the JCS advise the president to invade Cuba?
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This type of thing is not just recent-scenes of US cities being nuked have long aired on Soviet and Russian TV.
If the Russians nuke Lvov, do we decide that this whole thing was a miscalculation and climb down, or just end the world before admitting being wrong?
Narrator: But, as noted by 100% of historians....the US did not invade Cuba.
Question you evade is, why did they advise the President to invade.
You won't answer because you're a coward.
No, the question is, why did you try to equate Cuba (which was NOT invaded) to Ukraine (which WAS invaded).
Made in Camden, AR, I believe. Someone should tell Tom Cotton this.
I knew you were too cowardly to answer the question.
Cuba would have been invaded if the Soviets didn't back down.
The Soviets backed down because JFK agreed to not invade Cuba in exchange for the removal of nuclear weapons from Turkey, and the Soviet promise to remove nuclear weapons from Cuba.
Why did America threaten to invade Cuba?
Why did Russia threaten to invade Ukraine?
In both cases it was to prevent the other side from establishing military bases on their doorstep.
Even you can see this, which is why you cowardly evade the question I actually asked and create your own.
You got a little Putin cum on your chin still, Natty Light.
We're referring to ACTUAL invasions now, Cletus.
America DID NOT invade Cuba, massacre thousands of Cuban civilians, etc etc etc.
That you continue to want to equate this as an example justifying Putin's actions is rather telling, Komrade...
Natty Light reminds me of phenomenally. He has gone of deep end. Kind of sad. But after today’s pathetic performance here, I finally have thrown him on the ignore bonfire out back. My favorite moment of his illustrious career is him disappearing for about a year when the war against Ukraine went so badly and Russia was humiliated the first year of war. The poor little fella could not handle the embarrassment. He only slunk back when they stabilized and had some success in second year and Ukraine's counter attack failed
