Critical thinking is the process of analyzing, evaluating, and making judgments about information in a rational and objective way. It involves questioning assumptions, considering multiple perspectives, and being aware of biases.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Critical thinking is the process of analyzing, evaluating, and making judgments about information in a rational and objective way. It involves questioning assumptions, considering multiple perspectives, and being aware of biases.
Bro, using italics does not make you smart. Have a good life. Hope you can find happiness.
Bro, I do that when I quote.
I've done that for literally years on this site.
Pattern recognition is a function of IQ.
Dude is quick with the linkies that he thinks bolster his argument, but the incessant demands that one answers his questions is over the top.
He is a sharp guy, but jeez.
Today is the first time I have read any of his posts in months.
Never mind, more of the same.
I prefer the Socratic method.
If I can ask you questions that lead you to recognize my point, it works much better.
What I find is that people recognize the point about to be made (by answering the question honestly), so they clam up, and evade not just the question, but he accompanying realization/confirmation of the underlying point.
The last few pages (or really any interaction with Joes Place) are excellent examples of this dynamic.
Yet, comparing an actual invasion of Ukraine and the genocide that Putin has undertaken has NO PARALLEL to Cuba.
Not remotely close.
I would like to add that I think there was an 11th commandment, “Don’t feed the trolls” ignore them, block their posts, take away their oxygen and they will go away.
good lord...
why did America threaten to invaded Cuba? A: because Russia put nuclear weapons in Cuba pointed at America.
Why did Russia
A: because Putin wanted to gain valuable land and did not want a Western democracy on his doorstep.
See the difference?
The hole I see in this consideration is that Russia expressed no territorial ambitions on Ukraine prior to the coup in 2014.
From 2014-2021 they continued pushing for a political settlement that would see Luhansk and Donetsk remaining as part Ukraine, with the stipulation that Ukraine remain a neutral nation.
The Russian foreign policy goal since 1945 has been to maintain a buffer between themselves and the West (the source of roughly 3 Holocausts worth of Russian deaths in WW2).
That was why Baker made the assurances in 1990 about not expanding NATO in exchange for Soviet withdrawal from East Germany.
Just as the US saw Soviet bases in Cuba, on our doorstep, as intolerable and worthy of going to war to stop, the Russians have long declared the same about Ukraine, for the exact same reasons. It's why our current CIA Director (formerly Russian ambassador) lobbied against it within multiple US administrations.
It's precisely because they've made their concerns so public for so long, that's hard for me to conclude anything but that the neocons provoked this war deliberately, against the advice of people whom history has proven to be correct, with the expectation they could manage it from spiraling out of control.
Given their miscalculations over the last 20 years, we're at greater risk of nuclear war than anytime since the U.S. took military steps to prevent the establishment of Soviet military bases in Cuba.
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Making a legit run at 800k by end of year.
May be official now. France had just delivered more of the Scalp missiles.
We saw the aftermath of the bombing last week.
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They saw it as a threat.
Cooler heads (JFK) prevailed.
Bottom line is there was no invasion of Cuba.
Russia invaded Ukraine.
Apples and Oranges.
Just stop.
Bins, US threatened to invade Cuba for the exact same reason that Russia threatened to invade Ukraine.
They weren’t going to let a nuclear adversary setup shop on their doorstep.
Where the comparison breaks down is that JFK sought to de-escalate in the face of his own generals advocating immediate air attacks and a ground invasion of Cuba. Kruschev chose to back down rather than start a war. Biden’s team of neocon foreign policy makers decided war was better than peace.
Now Americans have elected a president who said he’d work to get a peace agreement, and the neocons on Biden’s team are doing their damndest to get WW3 rolling in earnest before they’re shown the door.
I can only hope they are denied their wish.
If ‘cooler heads’ hadn’t prevailed, the invasion happens.
Russia invaded Ukraine when Biden’s team made it clear that no compromise would come.
Now we’re in the ‘diplomacy by other means’ stage, where billions in wealth turn into smoke and thousands die.
Completely avoidable waste.
That’s the subtitle to every neocon adventure overseas in the last quarter century.
The outcome is ‘apples and oranges’ because the neocons chose escalation. They pursued war over peace.
The situation that led to the decision point was apples and apples.
Bullshit.
There were Nuclear armed ballistic missiles in Cuba provided by the Soviet Union when the Cuban missile crissis took place.
No such equivalent when Russia invaded Ukraine. It was a land grab.
Just stop.
This is a dude that was pro Putin and pro Russia for a full decade plus before war, tried to argue repeatedly that Russia and Belarus were merely doing war games and the US warnings of the invasion were BS to distract from inflation and economy, and then left the board for a year after it became clear Russia had massively miscalculated their military might and was humiliated. He has no credibility on this and most topics.
Escalation irrevocably occurred in 2014. And then again in 2022. Only one side is escalating.
Shocking (to me anyway) if true.
Hope this is real if above happened. (Seems too good doesn't it?)
Hope this is real if above happened. (Seems too good doesn't it?)
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Interesting narratives/propaganda, either the Biden admin is very weak and Putin took advantage or Biden is a war hawk and drove Putin to start a war with Ukraine out of fear. Either way, Putin is innocent, Biden is bad and the US is waiting for its savior to return.
1600/day will get to >790k by 12/31 right now....
So, probably won't hit that, but could be close.
Crazy.
