This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

[seminole97]

You got a little Putin cum on your chin still, Natty Light.

Critical thinking is the process of analyzing, evaluating, and making judgments about information in a rational and objective way. It involves questioning assumptions, considering multiple perspectives, and being aware of biases.

 

[noleclone2]

Critical thinking is the process of analyzing, evaluating, and making judgments about information in a rational and objective way. It involves questioning assumptions, considering multiple perspectives, and being aware of biases.

Bro, using italics does not make you smart. Have a good life. Hope you can find happiness.

 

[seminole97]

Bro, using italics does not make you smart. Have a good life. Hope you can find happiness.

Bro, I do that when I quote.
I've done that for literally years on this site.

Pattern recognition is a function of IQ.

 

[billanole]

Natty Light reminds me of phenomenally. He has gone of deep end. Kind of sad. But after today’s pathetic performance here, I finally have thrown him on the ignore bonfire out back. My favorite moment of his illustrious career is him disappearing for about a year when the war against Ukraine went so badly and Russia was humiliated the first year of war. The poor little fella could not handle the embarrassment. He only slunk back when they stabilized and had some success in second year and Ukraine's counter attack failed

Dude is quick with the linkies that he thinks bolster his argument, but the incessant demands that one answers his questions is over the top.
He is a sharp guy, but jeez.
Today is the first time I have read any of his posts in months.
Never mind, more of the same.

 

[seminole97]

Dude is quick with the linkies that he thinks bolster his argument, but the incessant demands that one answers his questions is over the top.

I prefer the Socratic method.
If I can ask you questions that lead you to recognize my point, it works much better.
What I find is that people recognize the point about to be made (by answering the question honestly), so they clam up, and evade not just the question, but he accompanying realization/confirmation of the underlying point.

The last few pages (or really any interaction with Joes Place) are excellent examples of this dynamic.

 

[Joes Place]

I prefer the Socratic method.
If I can ask you questions that lead you to recognize my point

Yet, comparing an actual invasion of Ukraine and the genocide that Putin has undertaken has NO PARALLEL to Cuba.
Not remotely close.

 

[TigerHawk33]

I would like to add that I think there was an 11th commandment, “Don’t feed the trolls” ignore them, block their posts, take away their oxygen and they will go away.

 

[DPUboiler]

Why did America threaten to invade Cuba?
Why did Russia threaten to invade Ukraine?

In both cases it was to prevent the other side from establishing military bases on their doorstep.

Even you can see this, which is why you cowardly evade the question I actually asked and create your own.

good lord...

why did America threaten to invaded Cuba? A: because Russia put nuclear weapons in Cuba pointed at America.
Why did Russia threaten to invaded Ukraine? (Fixed it for you)
A: because Putin wanted to gain valuable land and did not want a Western democracy on his doorstep.

See the difference?

 

[seminole97]

good lord...

why did America threaten to invaded Cuba? A: because Russia put nuclear weapons in Cuba pointed at America.
Why did Russia threatento invaded Ukraine? (Fixed it for you)
A: because Putin wanted to gain valuable land and did not want a Western democracy on his doorstep.

See the difference?

The hole I see in this consideration is that Russia expressed no territorial ambitions on Ukraine prior to the coup in 2014.
From 2014-2021 they continued pushing for a political settlement that would see Luhansk and Donetsk remaining as part Ukraine, with the stipulation that Ukraine remain a neutral nation.

The Russian foreign policy goal since 1945 has been to maintain a buffer between themselves and the West (the source of roughly 3 Holocausts worth of Russian deaths in WW2).

That was why Baker made the assurances in 1990 about not expanding NATO in exchange for Soviet withdrawal from East Germany.

Just as the US saw Soviet bases in Cuba, on our doorstep, as intolerable and worthy of going to war to stop, the Russians have long declared the same about Ukraine, for the exact same reasons. It's why our current CIA Director (formerly Russian ambassador) lobbied against it within multiple US administrations.

It's precisely because they've made their concerns so public for so long, that's hard for me to conclude anything but that the neocons provoked this war deliberately, against the advice of people whom history has proven to be correct, with the expectation they could manage it from spiraling out of control.

Given their miscalculations over the last 20 years, we're at greater risk of nuclear war than anytime since the U.S. took military steps to prevent the establishment of Soviet military bases in Cuba.