This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

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[Joes Place]

Can you Rubio dorks take your argument somewhere else. Thanks.

Reel your boi in, then.

 

[goldmom]

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That’s awesome - and I don’t know if many Americans are even now aware that Ukraine was such a valuable territory for the old USSR - and one of the reasons the old Soviet regime was regarded as being a legitimate power.

 

[goldmom]

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80 years later a whole new America is learning about the determination and character of the people of Poland as well as Ukraine. And not as history from a book.

 

[Joes Place]

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Man....I'm old enough to remember in Post #18 (2/24/22) of this thread about Russian supply chains.

This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

It's not like this hasn't been coming for Ukraine for years. Apparently, this is a huge deal, as Russia intended to capture this airport to serve as a way of flying military in. If this is true, this is a big early victory for the Ukrainians

iowa.forums.rivals.com

I recall a few posters claiming I was wrong....one in particularly chattering about "Russian Air power"...

 

[86Hawkeye]

The only thing that matters is an ally asked to not share information while meeting was occurring. For some reason he's probably paranoid. They have procedures they have followed that have kept him alive. If u start making exceptions or saying this is no big deal that's how things can get over looked. The level of vigilance the Ukranian leader is undergoing right now should be respected. Losing him would be a major boon to Putin.

I think this is the salient point in all of this.

Is it likely that sensitive information was divulged? No. But it's more of a trust thing.

 

[Joes Place]

Sent

Edit/delete your reply so that guy's email doesn't stay up here

😉

 

[86Hawkeye]

Probably because he didn’t / doesn’t trust the Putin backed GOP politicians in the room. Other world leaders he can trust.

Look, I know it's popular to say "XYZ politician is on Putin's payroll", etc., but I really don't think there are any US Senators who are "for" Putin.

 

[Joes Place]

The reason it’s an issue is because it gives the russias an opportunity to ping his feed and get his location to bomb him. It’s timing issue idiot.

Yes, this has been explained to him again and again.

He's just clogging this thread up with nonsense. Report the posts and have him removed, because this is beyond ridiculous now.

 

[Joes Place]

The US uses about 18 million bbls/day. It's my understanding that the majority of SPR oil is pretty sour which kind of limits the refineries that it can go to. Most of it is kept in salt dome storage down in LA/TX.

Related info regarding Russian oil is that it is also pretty sour. Shell buying 100k metric tons is around 650,000 bbls or about a Suezmax oil tankers worth. Both the Chinese and US are pretty good at refining sour or high sulfur oil. The Chinese are because they don't have the EPA type of regs or refinery maintenance requirements that other countries like the US would have. They can also use Mazut which is a dirty heavy bunker oil that comes out of Russia exclusively. The US is historically decent at refining high sulfur oil because most Venezuelan crude was sour and high in sulfur. Not sure how many US refineries are still set up to run high sulfur or sour oil but it is pretty limited. Russian oil is really made for Asia and the refineries and markets set up to run the stuff. Russian gas is the real choke point for Europe.

Excellent background/context. Thx

 

[srams21]

Look, I know it's popular to say "XYZ politician is on Putin's payroll", etc., but I really don't think there are any US Senators who are "for" Putin.

Then that can only mean that Marco Rubio, Vice Chair of the Intel Committee, is a complete dipshit.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Russia is finally pulling out the big guns…

 

[86Hawkeye]

Very interesting unrolled Twitter thread on the situation (allegedly) from a Russian FSB perspective.

 

[86Hawkeye]

Then that can only mean that Marco Rubio, Vice Chair of the Intel Committee, is a complete dipshit.

In this instance, I agree 100%.

 

[IA_HAWKI]

Edit/delete your reply so that guy's email doesn't stay up here

😉

Done, but i think he posted it in a later post

 

[Funky Bunch]

 

[Funky Bunch]

 

[Joes Place]

Very interesting unrolled Twitter thread on the situation (allegedly) from a Russian FSB perspective.

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Because we were told that we need to maximize our threats in order to negotiate an outcome through peace. Because we were already preparing protests against Zelensky in Ukraine without ever considering invading Ukraine​

This sounds eerily similar to all the "organized protests" in the US, over whatever issue-du-jour is at hand... (e.g. anti-vax 'convoys')

 

[Joes Place]

Very interesting unrolled Twitter thread on the situation (allegedly) from a Russian FSB perspective.

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I read this elsewhere (not sure if here or another Twitter follow), but NOT with this guy's context in it. The context he adds in brings MUCH more clarity to this. A must read for anyone wanting to know what's going on in Russia now.

 

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[Tenacious E]

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War crimes.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

 

[HawkFan1298]

I am kinda curious to see what the power of hrot can do to your goal

I have 4 HROT donors so far. 😀

 

[MitchLL]

Can we also send one after Rubio?

Send Rubio to Mar a Lago and get a twofer.

 

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[ClarindaA's]

i kind of what to feel that too.

Wtf Nate

 

[Joes Place]

Done, but i think he posted it in a later post

He did, so no big deal. 👍

 

[Joes Place]

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Just....WOW

Lots of scrap metal and unused/unexploded munitions laying around in that one vid.

 

[Tenacious E]

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I just hope that mean they weren’t destroyed on the ground before they could fly.

 

[Bonerfarts]

 

[Joes Place]

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This is true. He thought he'd have a large fraction of America in his court. Not working out this way, though (thank goodness).

EDIT: This is a testament to people in the GOP like Romney, who have been on the side of the truth the entire time here. Will those voices "win out" in the GOP in the long run, over the cesspool of misinformation and MAGA crap? Is this the tipping point?

 

[Joes Place]

The Ukrainian Army hit the fuel tankers supplying fuel to the Russian tanks with SİHAs. Embassy of Ukraine: "Tanks are waiting for the tankers to advance, but it looks like the tankers will be delayed a bit."

 

[h-hawk]

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If they have a way to haul these they can arm some of their reserves just with captured equipment. It must be fairly rare to capture an entire artillery battery.

 

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[Joes Place]

I know people don't want to hear this, but it's why we are where we are right now, and why this isn't a LOT WORSE...

 

[Thunderlips71]

Russia is finally pulling out the big guns…

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Not the dreaded VW Microbus! The hippies are coming - run for your lives! 🤣

 

[mnole03]

Color me an ignoramus but I thought Chechnya’s president was Purin’s attack dog? Did that change or is there a civil war going now in Chechnya?

Most Chechens hate Kadyrov. There is a very real chance of a mutiny there because they believe Russia sent them to die, which is probably true. The United States should be pushing this narrative in Muslim internet spheres, because it will create chaos for Putin.

 

[brownd7949hawks]

Yes, this has been explained to him again and again.

He's just clogging this thread up with nonsense. Report the posts and have him removed, because this is beyond ridiculous now.

Ironic

 

[Joes Place]

Ironic

You haven't been following many of my posts, then.