I like that dude. Sure, he's a bit nuts but he's got some stones in his pants. Not that genital missing, diaper shitting, orange stain of a fart.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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So basically the exact same as the Western European colonization of the New World and American "Manifest Destiny" in the 1800s.
...which is the same thing as walking it back.
Look, the simple reality is that you can't lose sight of the ultimate goal of peace, and stopping the fighting. Regime change comments hinder that, plain and simple, particularly from a putative noncombatant who is a historic adversary. He's got a higher than normal tendency to go off script, and he's certainly not the first president to do so and he won't be the last. But the fact remains, it hurts the pursuit of the important goal.
Can we just take Putin out already?
**** this guy.
**** this guy.
I just know the quality oriented terror organizations swear by the reliability of Toyota!
Not the same, and as the general said yesterday, it needed to be said
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His English is rusty. They are using retired Fax Trolls form the 1980s.
I like that dude. Sure, he's a bit nuts but he's got some stones in his pants. Not that genital missing, diaper shitting, orange stain of a fart.
That was the day Cheeto Nation flew to Tulsa to take a dump on Juneteenth and killed Herman Cain while doing so.
If the numbers are correct I think you're right.
We really don't have any solid numbers on Ukrainian military losses though....for pretty obvious reasons. Not like NATO is going to release those assessments and Ukrainian/Russian numbers are dubious at best....
I say it's a tie, with both sides running away after multiple friendly fire casualties.
To my knowledge nobody marched 1.5 million native American elderly. Women and children into the desert without food, water or shelter to die. So if you have a historical reference for that please point us to it. The relocation is an undeniable fact.
Interesting clip here...
•Anti-tank fire from a building against the Russian T-72 tank advancing through the streets of Mariupol. It's on point!
•Anti-tank fire from a building against the Russian T-72 tank advancing through the streets of Mariupol. It's on point!
F off russian warship...they're joining both the EU and NATO
Definitely not 1.5 million but the Trail of Tears isn’t a shining moment in US History.
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Removing Native Americans from their Land
Ohio land cessionsIn 1786, the United States established its first Native American reservation and approached each tribe as an independent nation. This policy remained intact for more than one hundred years. But as President James Monroe noted in his second inaugural address in 1821, treating Native Americans this way "flattered their pride, retarded their improvement, and in many instances paved the way to their destruction."
In addition, Monroe observed that America's westward growth "has constantly driven them back, with almost the total sacrifice of the lands which they have been compelled to abandon. They have claims on the magnanimity and . . . on the justice of this nation which we must all feel." Despite Monroe's concern for the plight of Native Americans, his administration successfully removed them from states north of the Ohio River.
President Andrew Jackson offered similar rhetoric in his first inaugural address in 1829, when he emphasized his desire "to observe toward the Indian tribes within our limits a just and liberal policy, and to give that humane and considerate attention to their rights and their wants which is consistent with the habits of our Government and the feelings of our people." Yet, only fourteen months later, Jackson prompted Congress to pass the Removal Act, a bill that forced Native Americans to leave the United States and settle in the Indian Territory west of the Mississippi River.
Many Cherokee tribes banded together as an independent nation, and challenged this legislation in U.S. courts. In 1832, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Cherokees, but some tribes still signed treaties giving the federal government the legal authority to "assist" them in their move to the Indian Territory.
In 1838, as the deadline for removal approached, thousands of federal soldiers and Georgia volunteers entered the territory and forcibly relocated the Cherokees, some hunting, imprisoning, assaulting, and murdering Cherokees during the process. Cherokees who survived the onslaught were forced on a 1,000-mile march to the established Indian Territory with few provisions. Approximately 4,000 Cherokees died on this "Trail of Tears."
U.S. Indian land cessions, FloridaAn audio recording of a Native American song commemorating this tragedy is available in the Library's online collections. A description of how some Cherokees settled in West Virginia can be heard in the audio recording Plateau Region as Unofficial Refuge for Cherokee.
The expansion of the United States that encroached upon Native American lands occurred faster than many policymakers had predicted, with events such as the Mexican-American War in 1848 placing new territories and tribes under federal jurisdiction. A government report, The Indians of Southern California in 1852, explained that many Californians believed "destiny had awarded California to the Americans to develop" and that if the Indians "interfered with progress they should be pushed aside."
Trail of Tears, in U.S. history, the forced relocation during the 1830s of Eastern Woodlands Indians of the Southeast region of the United States (including Cherokee, Creek, Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Seminole, among other nations) to Indian Territory west of the Mississippi River. Estimates based on tribal and military records suggest that approximately 100,000 indigenous people were forced from their homes during that period, which is sometimes known as the removal era, and that some 15,000 died during the journey west. The term Trail of Tears invokes the collective suffering those people experienced, although it is most commonly used in reference to the removal experiences of the Southeast Indians generally and the Cherokee nation specifically. The physical trail consisted of several overland routes and one main water route and, by passage of the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act in 2009, stretched some 5,045 miles (about 8,120 km) across portions of nine states (Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, and Tennessee).
The roots of forced relocation lay in greed. The British Proclamation of 1763 designated the region between the Appalachian Mountains and the Mississippi River as Indian Territory. Although that region was to be protected for the exclusive use of indigenous peoples, large numbers of Euro-American land speculators and settlers soon entered. For the most part, the British and, later, U.S. governments ignored these acts of trespass.
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right. they just sent them to Oklahoma. oh, wait...
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oh, so that's what Biden meant by no change in policy.
BTW, to be clear, I'm equal opportunity on this, dating back at least to the famous "evil empire" speech, presidents say stuff that doesn't help
Why are people so scared to call a spade a spade? Putin is a murderer. Just because he hides behind a sovereign flag doesn't change it. For that matter, so is that idiot George W. Bush. The only difference is that, I think, Bush realizes he f'd up and would show remorse. Putin would just try to be more hardcore.
And Bush's war in Af stinkis tan was 100 percent justified.
Bush's war in Iraq, 100 percent f'd up and based on a false narrative.
And Bush's war in Af stinkis tan was 100 percent justified.
Bush's war in Iraq, 100 percent f'd up and based on a false narrative.
When your biggest friends abandon you...
www.telegraph.co.uk
Chinese oil and gas company cancels $500m investment in Russia
The state-run Sinopec Group realised a senior figure at Sibur was an ally of Vladimir Putin and has therefore decided to press hold on plans
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it's fine for you and I to, less so for a head of state to, as they are presumed to speak for their nation. and therein lies the rub when you're trying to secure peace.
Look, some people are just not cut out for international relations, but it's an unavoidable game that in fact has a set of rules and conventions to it, particularly for nonbelligerents.
but Biden called for regime change!!!!! The horror.
All true, and before the white man the commanche was doing a pretty good job themselves of murder and forcing mass migrations other other tribes.Removing Native Americans from their Land
In 1786, the United States established its first Native American reservation and approached each tribe as an independent nation. This policy remained intact for more than one hundred years. But as President James Monroe noted in his second inaugural address in 1821, treating Native Americans this way "flattered their pride, retarded their improvement, and in many instances paved the way to their destruction."
In addition, Monroe observed that America's westward growth "has constantly driven them back, with almost the total sacrifice of the lands which they have been compelled to abandon. They have claims on the magnanimity and . . . on the justice of this nation which we must all feel." Despite Monroe's concern for the plight of Native Americans, his administration successfully removed them from states north of the Ohio River.
President Andrew Jackson offered similar rhetoric in his first inaugural address in 1829, when he emphasized his desire "to observe toward the Indian tribes within our limits a just and liberal policy, and to give that humane and considerate attention to their rights and their wants which is consistent with the habits of our Government and the feelings of our people." Yet, only fourteen months later, Jackson prompted Congress to pass the Removal Act, a bill that forced Native Americans to leave the United States and settle in the Indian Territory west of the Mississippi River.
Many Cherokee tribes banded together as an independent nation, and challenged this legislation in U.S. courts. In 1832, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Cherokees, but some tribes still signed treaties giving the federal government the legal authority to "assist" them in their move to the Indian Territory.
In 1838, as the deadline for removal approached, thousands of federal soldiers and Georgia volunteers entered the territory and forcibly relocated the Cherokees, some hunting, imprisoning, assaulting, and murdering Cherokees during the process. Cherokees who survived the onslaught were forced on a 1,000-mile march to the established Indian Territory with few provisions. Approximately 4,000 Cherokees died on this "Trail of Tears."
An audio recording of a Native American song commemorating this tragedy is available in the Library's online collections. A description of how some Cherokees settled in West Virginia can be heard in the audio recording Plateau Region as Unofficial Refuge for Cherokee.
The expansion of the United States that encroached upon Native American lands occurred faster than many policymakers had predicted, with events such as the Mexican-American War in 1848 placing new territories and tribes under federal jurisdiction. A government report, The Indians of Southern California in 1852, explained that many Californians believed "destiny had awarded California to the Americans to develop" and that if the Indians "interfered with progress they should be pushed aside."
Trail of Tears, in U.S. history, the forced relocation during the 1830s of Eastern Woodlands Indians of the Southeast region of the United States (including Cherokee, Creek, Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Seminole, among other nations) to Indian Territory west of the Mississippi River. Estimates based on tribal and military records suggest that approximately 100,000 indigenous people were forced from their homes during that period, which is sometimes known as the removal era, and that some 15,000 died during the journey west. The term Trail of Tears invokes the collective suffering those people experienced, although it is most commonly used in reference to the removal experiences of the Southeast Indians generally and the Cherokee nation specifically. The physical trail consisted of several overland routes and one main water route and, by passage of the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act in 2009, stretched some 5,045 miles (about 8,120 km) across portions of nine states (Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, and Tennessee).
The roots of forced relocation lay in greed. The British Proclamation of 1763 designated the region between the Appalachian Mountains and the Mississippi River as Indian Territory. Although that region was to be protected for the exclusive use of indigenous peoples, large numbers of Euro-American land speculators and settlers soon entered. For the most part, the British and, later, U.S. governments ignored these acts of trespass.
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To paraphrase John Adams, "This is a war damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!"
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Which is exactly Seminole's point -- and if you've been paying attention, I have been far from a regular supporter of all of his takes.
But any suggestion that genocidal tendencies are baked into any particular culture or society fails the test of history. The truth is, humans that organize in large groups have a long and well-understood propensity for enslaving, subjugating and genociding their neighbors. Everywhere on the globe.
And anyone that can't understand that the pre-Columbian civilization in the New World was brought to the verge of extinction -- and is more-or-less culturally extinct at this point -- as a direct result of European colonization and American Manifest Destiny is either woefully uneducated or operating with an agenda. Not debatable and I won't waste more time on the subject in this thread, as that discussion doesn't belong here.
A deal’s a deal….Shouldn’t matter if you are burned to a crisp. I believe the 72 virgins still have to like you In your totally burned condition. What about the suicide bombers? They end up in multiple pieces, but still get the 72 young girls who like them.
We're supplying weapons and expertise to kill Russians. Putin is not pleased anyway.
Girl mentioned a few days ago.
An infamous sniper fighting for the Russian invasion force has been captured by Ukrainian troops after being left for dead by her comrades.
Irina Starikova, code name Baghera, achieved infamy and a reported kill count of 40, including Ukrainian civilians - but her true identity remains unclear and is shrouded in mystery.
Believed to have originally been born in Serbia, she is according to some reports she a former professional handball player named Daniela Lazovic.
It is reported that she was once a nun who became a drug trafficker, before covering to Islam.
She has fighting on behalf of the pro-Russian rebels in Donestk since 2014, when Russia invaded Ukrainian territory in Crimea and parts of the Donbas.
The Kyiv Defence Ministry's news agency, ArmyInform, reported that “ZSU [Ukrainian Armed Forces] had taken the famous sniper Baghera from ORDLO [Russian occupied territory] prisoner, who shot Ukrainian prisoners in 2014”.
The official press release continued: “According to some volunteers, she killed at least 40 Ukrainians, including civilians."
According to Ukrainian serviceman Vlad Ivanov, "Baghera" had been wounded before she was captured and treated by Ukrainian army medics.
A report from the Ukrainian intelligence services she has been serving in the units of the "People's Militia in the DPRK” since 2014.
She claims that she was abandoned on the battlefield by her comrades.
"They abandoned me. Knowing that I was injured and had the opportunity to take me away, they decided to leave me, hoping that I would die," she explained.
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Irina Starikova, code name Baghera, achieved infamy and a reported kill count of 40, including Ukrainian civilians - but her true identity remains unclear and is shrouded in mystery.
Believed to have originally been born in Serbia, she is according to some reports she a former professional handball player named Daniela Lazovic.
It is reported that she was once a nun who became a drug trafficker, before covering to Islam.
She has fighting on behalf of the pro-Russian rebels in Donestk since 2014, when Russia invaded Ukrainian territory in Crimea and parts of the Donbas.
The Kyiv Defence Ministry's news agency, ArmyInform, reported that “ZSU [Ukrainian Armed Forces] had taken the famous sniper Baghera from ORDLO [Russian occupied territory] prisoner, who shot Ukrainian prisoners in 2014”.
The official press release continued: “According to some volunteers, she killed at least 40 Ukrainians, including civilians."
According to Ukrainian serviceman Vlad Ivanov, "Baghera" had been wounded before she was captured and treated by Ukrainian army medics.
A report from the Ukrainian intelligence services she has been serving in the units of the "People's Militia in the DPRK” since 2014.
She claims that she was abandoned on the battlefield by her comrades.
"They abandoned me. Knowing that I was injured and had the opportunity to take me away, they decided to leave me, hoping that I would die," she explained.
Nun who became ruthless sniper with 40 kills captured by Ukraine, reports claim
Irina Starikova, code name Baghera, has been captured in by Ukrainian forces after her Russian comrades 'left her for dead'. It is reported she abandoned her faith to become a drug dealer then a feared killer
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I look forward to her hanging death. Hopefully sooner rather than later.An infamous sniper fighting for the Russian invasion force has been captured by Ukrainian troops after being left for dead by her comrades.
Irina Starikova, code name Baghera, achieved infamy and a reported kill count of 40, including Ukrainian civilians - but her true identity remains unclear and is shrouded in mystery.
Believed to have originally been born in Serbia, she is according to some reports she a former professional handball player named Daniela Lazovic.
It is reported that she was once a nun who became a drug trafficker, before covering to Islam.
She has fighting on behalf of the pro-Russian rebels in Donestk since 2014, when Russia invaded Ukrainian territory in Crimea and parts of the Donbas.
The Kyiv Defence Ministry's news agency, ArmyInform, reported that “ZSU [Ukrainian Armed Forces] had taken the famous sniper Baghera from ORDLO [Russian occupied territory] prisoner, who shot Ukrainian prisoners in 2014”.
The official press release continued: “According to some volunteers, she killed at least 40 Ukrainians, including civilians."
According to Ukrainian serviceman Vlad Ivanov, "Baghera" had been wounded before she was captured and treated by Ukrainian army medics.
A report from the Ukrainian intelligence services she has been serving in the units of the "People's Militia in the DPRK” since 2014.
She claims that she was abandoned on the battlefield by her comrades.
"They abandoned me. Knowing that I was injured and had the opportunity to take me away, they decided to leave me, hoping that I would die," she explained.
Nun who became ruthless sniper with 40 kills captured by Ukraine, reports claim
Irina Starikova, code name Baghera, has been captured in by Ukrainian forces after her Russian comrades 'left her for dead'. It is reported she abandoned her faith to become a drug dealer then a feared killer
After reading the accounts of the Russian soldiers atrocities against civilian interests, I hope the Ukrainians "light em up" when the opportunities present themselves.
Fvck them guys.
Fvck them guys.
Think she has one of these.An infamous sniper fighting for the Russian invasion force has been captured by Ukrainian troops after being left for dead by her comrades.
Irina Starikova, code name Baghera, achieved infamy and a reported kill count of 40, including Ukrainian civilians - but her true identity remains unclear and is shrouded in mystery.
Believed to have originally been born in Serbia, she is according to some reports she a former professional handball player named Daniela Lazovic.
It is reported that she was once a nun who became a drug trafficker, before covering to Islam.
She has fighting on behalf of the pro-Russian rebels in Donestk since 2014, when Russia invaded Ukrainian territory in Crimea and parts of the Donbas.
The Kyiv Defence Ministry's news agency, ArmyInform, reported that “ZSU [Ukrainian Armed Forces] had taken the famous sniper Baghera from ORDLO [Russian occupied territory] prisoner, who shot Ukrainian prisoners in 2014”.
The official press release continued: “According to some volunteers, she killed at least 40 Ukrainians, including civilians."
According to Ukrainian serviceman Vlad Ivanov, "Baghera" had been wounded before she was captured and treated by Ukrainian army medics.
A report from the Ukrainian intelligence services she has been serving in the units of the "People's Militia in the DPRK” since 2014.
She claims that she was abandoned on the battlefield by her comrades.
"They abandoned me. Knowing that I was injured and had the opportunity to take me away, they decided to leave me, hoping that I would die," she explained.
Nun who became ruthless sniper with 40 kills captured by Ukraine, reports claim
Irina Starikova, code name Baghera, has been captured in by Ukrainian forces after her Russian comrades 'left her for dead'. It is reported she abandoned her faith to become a drug dealer then a feared killer
AKM fitted with P-25 grenade launcher.
11 weapons used by Russia's elite Spetsnaz operators
The Russian Defense Ministry recently announced that its elite Spetsnaz forces would be receiving "several dozen" new 2B25 "silent" 82mm mortar systems.
www.businessinsider.com
So there has to be a movie.
Nun who became ruthless sniper with 40 kills captured by Ukraine, reports claim
Irina Starikova, code name Baghera, has been captured in by Ukrainian forces after her Russian comrades 'left her for dead'. It is reported she abandoned her faith to become a drug dealer then a feared killer
