This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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I read before, and probably needs confirmed, that the drones were sold directly from a private company to Ukraine. No government involvement. I guess best case for them, you could say they didn’t intervene on Russias behalf and block the sale.
But again, someone should probably confirm.
Exactly
Quit letting Putin dictate the discussion and direction based on him hearing "what we surely won't do".
Few thought he'd actually invade. Now, they're astonished that his troops aren't actually engaging in war against a military, but are targeting and murdering civilians.
Ramp up the sanctions. Shoot down and engage Russian aircraft in Ukrainian airspace. Sink Russian ships in Ukrainian waters.
Enough.
The issue is there is no peaceful end to this that doesn't end with Russia in control of the Eastern portion of Ukraine. Putin will never agree to anything less.
Ukraine can not accept that either. Putin will spend the time rebuilding their military, presumably while keeping a closer eye on corruption, and be back to take the rest in a few years. I don't know what the actual answer is. At this point, it seems it will take an Osama Bin Laden style raid to take him out but as long as he stays in bunkers hidden in the Ural mountains that will be impossible.
Brought this up yesterday….
But how is the House not sticking around to vote on this before their 2 week break not pissing everyone who supports Ukraine off?
https://www.newsweek.com/how-joe-biden-lend-lease-ukraine-could-turn-tide-war-russia-1695886?amp=1
But how is the House not sticking around to vote on this before their 2 week break not pissing everyone who supports Ukraine off?
https://www.newsweek.com/how-joe-biden-lend-lease-ukraine-could-turn-tide-war-russia-1695886?amp=1
That delay in voting is a head-scratcher to me as well. Only thing I can figure is it doesn't immediately impact supplies already in the pipeline for use in the next several weeks. Perhaps it covers things that will require more training of Ukrainian troops, etc., like IFVs, 155mm artillery, etc.
For me yes, it is very disappointing. I think sadly, we are use to our politicians letting us down and behaving like middle school morons. So when I first read the news about this yesterday I was not surprised just angry and disappointed.
How on earth does Russia keep a lid on that internally? People talk, even in the military. If the Russians found out that would be fantastic.
And yet people here are advocating attacks on Russian civilians too.
Since we know that causes a ‘rally around the flag’ - why do it?
The only person I saw saying that was gohox. Maybe there was someone else. Vast percentage do not support or condone that.
The thing is it’s not being reported in any of the media which I think is weird….
It’s even mentioned in the article that the house needs to pass it…
Guess the bill isn’t “going to turn the tide” as the article implies if you can wait 2 weeks…a Russians are probably going to launch their offensive in the east in the next two weeks…and Ukraine will be burning through weapons stocks
Pelosi is obviously a Putin stooge.
This was always predicted as the first thing that would happen to expose Putin’s lies. The Russian moms are going to spread the truth. You can’t hid 20k dead Russians conscripts to general dying violent deaths over 40 days
The Winds of Change guy with the alleged connection to someone inside the KGB/FSB is saying the same thing about an imminent false flag.
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Unless we're just going ahead with it anyway 😎. House will approve it formally in 2 weeks. The US can start moving things logistically prior to turning over custody of materials to the Ukrainians. Or we can even start getting moving on training, etc. without the bill having actually been signed into law.
This would be counterproductive for sure. Best to attack places like Belgorod, etc. being used by Russia for refit and staging.
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Damn, she’s as hot as the Prime Minister! Estonian lady politicians are my new fetish!
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Hmm, article said Germany, Austria, Hungary and Italy are the major holdouts.
I seem to recall those same 4 being aligned on other matters about 75-80 years ago 😡
As Dennis Miller would say, I haven't really enjoyed any of their previous work together, and I'm not sure I need to see the new shit right now.
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That’s basically how the Iran-Contra deal went down if I recall. Only Congress never actually approved, lol.
Military targets? Supply lines? Factories? Refineries? Those are legitimate targets.
Civilians? Not so much.
100-0 in the Senate and Pelosi goes on vacation. I will be glad when she retires.
The optics are not good, but there is no impact to supplies getting to Ukraine. There is plenty available to move now. And, Biden has some leeway. If it became urgent Nancy Pelosi would call them back into session. And, you will never hear me say that Congress doesn’t get enough days off. Bad optics.
Umm, WTF, I don't even want to think about there being a video
First NATO country sends Ukraine powerful surface-to-air missiles to shoot down Russian aircraft and cruise missiles
Slovakia confirmed it had sent Ukraine a Soviet-era S-300, a long-range surface-to-air missile system that President Zelenskyy had desperately wanted.
www.businessinsider.com
A full response isn't needed or requested. Arm them to the teeth, send in a peacekeeping force to secure the western half of the country and stop buying oil, gas and coal from Russia
Can we just put a bounty on Putin’s head already?
Why not? Seriously, why the F not?
Vladimir Putin - World #1 Terrorist
WANTED - Dead or Alive
Why not? Seriously, why the F not?
Vladimir Putin - World #1 Terrorist
WANTED - Dead or Alive
