In the states, he would likely be on his way to selling insurance making a lot of commissions.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Why would Ukraine allow them to keep a military base in Crimea?
There is an offer on the table. Withdraw completely from all Ukraine territory, including Crimea, and you will have peace. Good luck getting the Russians to agree to that.
Per the picture in the article, it does not appear things went well for the photographed conscript.
www.yahoo.com
First new Russian military recruits already in Ukraine, says President's Office
The first Russian reinforcements, called up as part of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin’s “partial mobilization”, have already been deployed to Ukrainian battlefields, presidential advisor Oleksiy Arestovych told former Russian lawyer Mark Feygin on his YouTube show on Sept. 27.
She'll have a job offer from Fox Opinion Network by the end of the year.
Except that the current residents of Crimea are imported Russians. That would be another sham vote. Native Ukrainians who fled should be the voting base.
Most native Crimeans now live on Sakhalin and the Kurile Islands off the coast of Japan, where the Russians deported them to. It's been documented that Russia has deported at least 1.6m Ukrainians from occupied areas this year.
It's been standard Russian practice for more than a century to deport the populations from conquered areas to Siberia, then import ethnic Russians to help "Russify" those areas when incorporating them into the Russian Empire.
So I guess that leaves an interesting and thorny area of land. Do just make everyone leave and let people move there from other areas of Ukraine?
To make a nice gesture and give the Russians one less reason to complain since the Russians have used it for about 200 years. More recently, before 2014, they were paying Ukraine to lease the base. Maybe Ukraine will see it as a major threat after all of this but until recently they did accept the Russians there. (Maybe just to keep the peace?)
"The construction of the port started in 1772, while the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774), was still ongoing, and was finished in 1783, following the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Empire. On 13 May 1783, the first eleven ships of the Imperial Russian Navy reached the Sevastopol Bay.[2]
During the Crimean War (1853–1856), all large ships were scuttled in the entrance to the bay in 1854 to prevent the entry of enemy ships into the bay. The city defended itself for 349 days against the allied armies of France, United Kingdom, Ottoman Empire and Piedmont-Sardinia. Eventually, the Russians had to abandon Sevastopol on 9 September 1855.[2]
During World War I, the Imperial German Army occupied Sevastopol on 1 May 1918 despite the ongoing negotiations to reach the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. After further negotiations, the most important ships of the Black Sea Fleet in Tsemes Bay in front of Novorossiysk were sunk by their crews.[2]
During World War II, the Black Sea Fleet of the Soviet Navy was able to fend off the first air attack by the Nazi German Luftwaffe. However, after the city defended itself for 250 days, Sevastopol fell to the Germans on 4 July 1942.[2]
After the dissolution of the Soviet Union at the end of 1991, the claim of the now Russian Navy for use of the naval base was initially lost (since Crimea was transferred to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954, the base was on the soil of the new post-Soviet state Ukraine). From then on, Russia paid an annual lease to Ukraine for the use of the base until 2014, as regulated by the Partition Treaty on the Black Sea Fleet and the Kharkiv Pact.[3][4] Since the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation in 2014, the naval base is again under Russian control.[5]"
WIKI
I think any gestures of goodwill have left the building. If anything, until Ukraine's navy gets back on its feet after the war, it should be protected by NATO, of if need be, only US forces.
Zelenskyy announces "good news" from front line in near future
Some good news from the front should be expected in the near future, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy stated in his evening address on Sept. 27.
Looks like mobility is key now.
"The package includes funding for 18 of the High-Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS, and ammunition for them, and 12 Titan systems, which are used to counter drones. Officials have said the HIMARS and other similar systems were key to Ukraine’s battle successes in recent weeks. And the Russians have been using Iranian-made drones to target Ukrainian forces, underscoring the need for more systems to counter that threat.
Also in the package is funding for about 300 vehicles, dozens of trucks and trailers to transport heavy equipment, a variety of radars, communications and surveillance equipment, and other gear for soldiers. It also will include funding for equipment to detect explosives and for maintenance and training.
The war, now in its seventh month, has shifted to a new phase, as Russia tries to rebound from recent combat losses and use the votes to politically solidify the gains it had made in the four occupied regions in the south and east.
Pro-Russia officials in Ukraine’s Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia regions said Wednesday they would ask Russian President Vladimir Putin to incorporate their provinces into Russia. It wasn’t immediately clear how the administrative process would unfold."
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-government-and-politics-746ae5a7113e9bb78562ee3a943c9260
Can't remember if this has been posted:
I imagine those new recruits aren’t good at comms security, and it was pretty easy to zero in on them.
It’s anecdotal, but when I look at the pictures from the various border checkpoints leading out of Russia I see a lot of high dollar cars.
The elites are bailing.
The elites are bailing.
About 30 pages ago, a post linked a Gertling tweet where he counted the ways the conscripts wouldn't make a difference. One of reasons he mentioned was that too many of them would make calls on cell phones and do other things to compromise their whereabouts/security, which is just courting a visit from HIMARS.
Going to be a lot of “last selfies” taken.
The earliest Russian fatalities were more experienced troops.
These latest groups sent to fight will definitely die at a much faster pace.
Would not be surprised to see the death toll hit 100,000 by end of year.
These latest groups sent to fight will definitely die at a much faster pace.
Would not be surprised to see the death toll hit 100,000 by end of year.
"Speaking in an interview with Bloomberg, Sak added they would be easier to repair with more readily available ammunition, compared to the Soviet tanks. Sak said Ukraine needs around 200 tanks to be effective on the battlefield at this stage, and could gradually replace Soviet versions with modern ones.
After European officials on Tuesday blamed the pipeline damage on an act of sabotage, Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the Ukrainian president’s chief of staff, said on Twitter “the best response and security investment” were tanks for Ukraine, adding “especially German ones.”
Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine’s defense minister, said modern tanks are “way more effective on the battlefield compared to Soviet tanks, including due to ergonomics, range and accuracy of shooting as well as better protecting personnel.”
“The longer the war takes, the more empty our Soviet tanks stockpile will be and there will be that moment where we need to either deliver western-designed tanks to Ukraine or basically throw them under the bus. It’s a matter of time,”said Jana Puglierin, head of the European Council on Foreign Relations in Berlin. Given it takes around four months to train soldiers on the tanks, it is better to start now before the Soviet tanks completely run out, she said.
Rough calcs are that there would need to be 475 KIA per day to hit 100K by 1/1/23. Probably not happening, but I could see some huge daily totals in the coming weeks when bunched up new forces are blown up. The thing to also note is that this does not include those Russians dying in accidents, which happens, and those dying later in hospitals after treatment. and of course, it does not include maimed/injured russians.
Oh, these new troops will make a difference, just not the way that Putin wants them to. If they compromise their security because they aren't trained they will increase casualty count for the Russians.
Also likely to surrender at the drop of a hat...
- Sep 13, 2002
- 97,904
- 204,179
- 113
Didn't they accomplish that last major offensive with just like a dozen HIMARS?
18 could really be a game changer if so!
I was under the impression that those numbers reflected all casualties, not only KIA but WIA and POW as well.
If that number is just KIA than that's really bad for the Russians.
Per Ukraine, those are just kills. For reference, this older article with a similar graphic says the troop losses are kills:
General Staff: 23,000 Russian troops killed in Ukraine since Feb. 24.
Ukraine’s Armed Forces said on April 29 that Russia has also lost 986 tanks, 2,418 armored personnel carriers, 1,695 vehicles, 435 artillery systems, 151 multiple launch rocket systems, 73 anti-aircraft defense systems, 155 helicopters, 189 aircraft, 76 fuel tanks, and eight boats.
A different article/source put the killed and wounded at 50K back in July:
Russia Has Lost 50,000 Soldiers In Ukraine, U.K. Military Chief Says
Russia has lost some 50,000 killed or wounded soldiers in its invasion of Ukraine and nearly 1,700 tanks have been destroyed, the head of Britain's armed forces says.
www.rferl.org
I'm sure there will be something completely rational that crosses Putin's mind as a response to this, seeing as though nobody cares that he made the Baltic Sea pipeline fart
No idea who “Lavern Spicer” is, but anyone who believes Donald Trump should have any involvement in this situation is a goddamned mongoloid child.
Ukrainian Security Service captures Russian agents scouting Ukrainian positions near Kramatorsk and Zaporizhzhia
STANISLAV POHORILOV - WEDNESDAY, 28 SEPTEMBER 2022, 17:23 The Security Service of Ukraine (SSU) has detained 2 Russian agents who were spying on the combat positions and movements of Ukrainian Armed Forces units near Kramatorsk and Zaporizhzhia.
Ukraine intel says Russians targeting Uman with Iranian drones ‘to attack Hasidic Jews’
The Russian military sent some of its Iranian-made Shahed-136 kamikaze drones at the city of Uman in central Ukraine to attack Hasidic Jewish pilgrims, Babel media reported on Sept. 27, citing sources in the Ukrainian intelligence services.
Sorry, it wasn’t appropriate. My maternal grandmother was a retired nurse and a very sweet lady, but back when I was a kid in the 70’s she’d occasionally tell my mom, “That poor mongoloid child down the street had another conniption fit in front of the entire neighborhood!”.
It’s just one of those words I’ll never forget.
