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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

…..And? Putin has proven he could not care less about the lives of Russians. Why defend Trump? He has said some reprehensible shit, and with what we saw on Jan. 6, it’s not out of the realm of possibility if he were to ever hold office again that he would withdraw our support of Ukraine.
I’m not defending Trump….

Originally responded to a poster that said if R’s take back control Ukraine support would go away….I disagree.
 
Agree, I don't think we have boots on the ground. We have them coordinating in Poland and Romania. I do think we have spooks on the ground, though. I am willing to bet we have operators inside Ukraine.
We have contractors on the ground. Lots.
Edit - Let me clarify. They are not on front lines.
UK has established a couple central command type operations that took some time getting effective and working protocols. Old military guys along with the comms/satellite guys are in neck deep over there.
 
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Oh, it’s you again.


I’m curious, have you read a little bit about the efforts to prosecute Greenwald for the corruption he exposed that led to Lula being freed from jail?
I’m wondering if you’re making any effort to replace the lies you spread earlier with actual understanding, or do you still think he ‘backs fascists like Bolsinaro[sic] and Putin’?
Or are you just another useless idiot, spreading lies from the comfort of your own ignorance like lucas, joelbc, etc.
Oh, it’s you again.


I’m curious, have you read a little bit about the efforts to prosecute Greenwald for the corruption he exposed that led to Lula being freed from jail?
I’m wondering if you’re making any effort to replace the lies you spread earlier with actual understanding, or do you still think he ‘backs fascists like Bolsinaro[sic] and Putin’?
Or are you just another useless idiot, spreading lies from the comfort of your own ignorance like lucas, joelbc, etc.
It’s uncanny how similar everything you post is to Nat. And a like from a new NC handle, to boot (joined in the past two weeks - I’m sure @Ronnie_B is totally legit).

Greenwald is off the deep end. He’s a pro-Putin, pro-trump whataboutist hack. Constant rage tweeting about every little blemish on the part of the Dems like he’s their personal cop while not a peep about the truly evil republicans.

Just because you read something once doesn’t mean everyone else is stupid, Natty.
 
Yeah....I recall a time when R support for Roe was "solid" and it was "the law of the land"

Until it wasn't.
The Ukraine votes speak for themselves…

R’s have always been pro life and have argued Roe was a bad decision since the 80’s
 
No; they simply don't. That's not how that party operates. They fall in line with the narratives handed to them. Which have been clearly pro-Putin from that side.
Bullshit. Cornin sponsored the Ukraine lend lease bill and it passed 100-0. They’re getting Biden to spend the rest of the Ukraine money right now…



R support for Ukraine is solid. Period.

Minus a couple crazies 😄

You should be applauding their efforts to send Ukraine long range missiles…
 
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Greenwald is off the deep end.
He doesn’t spread lies like you.
You can’t gracefully take an L and acknowledge you didn’t know wtf you were talking about.
You keep doubling down.
To wit:

He’s a pro-Putin, pro-trump whataboutist hack.
He’s neither pro-Putin nor pro-Trump.
You can’t point to anything he’s written to suggest otherwise. The best you’ll be able to do, were you to actually try to educate yourself, is find others mischaracterizing, for example, his opposition to censorship as support for whomever is the latest target of the censors.

Constant rage tweeting about every little blemish on the part of the Dems like he’s their personal cop while not a peep about the truly evil republicans.
Greenwald was a darling of MSNBC, CNN and other outlets during the Bush administration, excoriating their violations of the Constitution. When he reported on those same kind of violations by the Obama admin he’ll tell you, the MSNBC, CNN, etc invites dried up.
He didn’t change.
Part and parcel of how they try to control what you are presented for information.

Just because you read something once doesn’t mean everyone else is stupid, Natty.

Not knowing something (like how prosecutors came after Greenwald for his role in exposing the corruption scandal responsible for getting Lula out of jail, and that he is in no shape or form a Bolsonaro supporter) and then sharing that ignorance by posting lies, is stupid.
Give it a rest.
 
He doesn’t spread lies like you.
You can’t gracefully take an L and acknowledge you didn’t know wtf you were talking about.
You keep doubling down.
To wit:


He’s neither pro-Putin nor pro-Trump.
You can’t point to anything he’s written to suggest otherwise. The best you’ll be able to do, were you to actually try to educate yourself, is find others mischaracterizing, for example, his opposition to censorship as support for whomever is the latest target of the censors.


Greenwald was a darling of MSNBC, CNN and other outlets during the Bush administration, excoriating their violations of the Constitution. When he reported on those same kind of violations by the Obama admin he’ll tell you, the MSNBC, CNN, etc invites dried up.
He didn’t change.
Part and parcel of how they try to control what you are presented for information.



Not knowing something (like how prosecutors came after Greenwald for his role in exposing the corruption scandal responsible for getting Lula out of jail, and that he is in no shape or form a Bolsonaro supporter) and then sharing that ignorance by posting lies, is stupid.
Give it a rest.
Everything in my post except the part where I said your posting style and content are uncannily similar to Nat’s. Interesting.
 
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Everything in my post except the part where I said your posting style and content are uncannily similar to Nat’s. Interesting.
I already had one example of your ignorance/stupidity/lies to work with.
Didn’t need two to make my point.
Doubling down on stupid is definitely your thing.

Can you share what information shaped your view that Greenwald is ‘pro-Putin’?
 

Bye now.
Haha!
You coward. You can’t actually produce anything to support your lies, but you want to keep clinging to them.
Whenever you look below the ‘pro-Putin’ headline it’s never something ‘pro-Putin’ said by Greenwald.
You’ve let your opinions be shaped by the mischaracterizations and smears spread by others.
 
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That even overstates the nature of our losses:

A total of 23 M1A1s were damaged or destroyed during the war. Of the nine Abrams tanks destroyed, seven were destroyed by friendly fire and two intentionally destroyed to prevent capture by the Iraqi Army

Did you miss the part about 44 Russian tanks? They lost 2 companies worth of tanks...today.
 
Did you miss the part about 44 Russian tanks? They lost 2 companies worth of tanks...today.
Not at all, but wanted the record clarified on how bad ass M-1s were (and the latest variants are like spaceships compared to those).

No joke, seeing how Russian armor was getting absolutely worked the first week of the war gave me hope they couldn’t win.
Modern war with ATGMs and drone ISR is hyper lethal.
It’s never gotten better for them than that first week, and this whole time their relative strength has slipped to the point they’ve lost operational initiative and I think they’re the weaker force on map in the theater.
This reserve mobilization is about Putin trying to hang onto what they’ve got with their fingernails.
Without nukes on the table NATO would be in this war and regime change in Moscow would be an expected outcome.
But nukes change that.
 
He was just saying it's even worse than originally reported with that stat. Instead of 23 US tanks lost, it is really like 14-16.

44 tanks in one day is just completely mind melting and I love every minute of it.
We had some get stuck and some lost to friendly fire, but none attributed to enemy fire.
Give the sheer scale of armored forces at war, it’s absurd to think the Iraqis couldn’t manage to kill a single one of our Abrams.
The collective butt pucker from the Soviet general staff upon learning that news probably affected earth’s rotation.
 
From a practical standpoint, Russia has lost roughly 1/5 of all tanks they "allegedly" have. At what point do they simply not have any additional firepower to put forth? We have to be getting near a point where an internal revolt would not be able to be put down in the country.
 
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Actions like sponsoring the Ukraine Lend Lease act and it passing unanimously in the Senate?

Passed the House 417-10
That is fantastic. I think the worry is what happens if the Trump loyalists win in the midterms and have a congressional majority of GOP. It’s a legit concern IMO
 
Don’t recall if this had been posted here:


More evidence of systemic collapse:

Thousands of Russian Soldiers Call the Ukraine surrender hotline (eutimes.net)

" “The hotline has received a lot of calls from Russians who were called up recently, and even from some who have not even been called up yet.

“They’re calling and asking ‘What should I do if I get called up? What do I have to do, what’s the right way to surrender?’”

"And, as many here have been calling for, this is how Ukraine says it will treat surrendered Russians:
“Among other things, we are talking about three meals a day, medical care, and the opportunity to contact relatives.”
 
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