Intel chips inside Iranian Kamakazi drones… WTF? Repurposed from another product?
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Because we all just want to fight, right, and keep fighting?
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I’m really surprised Putin hasn’t escalated via unconventional weapons given that Ukraine really seems to have Russia on the run. Not how I thought this would play out, not sure why you annex them then retreat?
Preferable to a peace which teaches Russia they can get what they want by invading a weaker nation.
Why should Ukraine cede territory for peace now that they are winning?
That's like Churchhill and FDR calling up Hilter willing to give up territory right after D-day was successful. Why are you MAGA's wanting to help the Russians out so much. They are on the run now and suddenly now you want Ukraine to surrender.
And ceding territory to Russia is surrendering. That's what the losers of wars do. Not the winners.
I support a peace deal where Russia withdraws all it's forces from Ukraine's territory including Crimea cedes Kalingrad Oblast to Ukraine.
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It would be odd to annex territory then nuke it.
Although when you're a lunatic like Putin...
My dudes, you need to start using the ignore feature. Then if there is a lot of smoke around a post, you can click to see the content of that post. Life is much better this way, in this particular thread.
"War sucks, but this is one that has to be fought. Have you people learned nothing from Neville Chamberlain?"
Yeah, fight it. Don't effing proxy
Russia didn't invade my country and the country that they did invade certainly seems more than up to fighting the war. There is more fight in them than there is in the Russians.
Per the iron bitch Olga's interview with a war correspondent on the previous page, they admitted they are 2 months away from being able to mount a counteroffensive.
I'm not sure that will be the case in this one. The Russians are poorly supplied and the Ukrainians have massive support. I hope this isn't just wishful thinking, but winter weather may tilt the playing field even more in favor of Ukraine.
This post presupposes that Russia has options.
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The continued use of drones against hard targets in Odesa is a damning indictment of Russia’s actual capabilities.
Instead of targeting rear area units and infrastructure supporting the ever expanding Ukrainian offensive in Kherson Oblast, Iranian supplied Shahed-136s are…
…slamming into likely empty Ukrainian assets in Odesa (and other areas deeper into Ukraine). Though these attacks most likely serve to cause terror for the general population in Odesa, they almost certainly aren’t halting Ukrainian forces in the field.
Now why aren’t the Russians targeting Ukrainian forces in Kherson Oblast with their new, shiny, Iranian supplied drones? Their ISR capabilities are, to put it accurately, trash. Shahed-136s rely on targeting data supplied by other platforms to conduct attacks.
The Shahed-136 appears to rely completely on external targeting information. Note the fact that it has no camera or secondary sensors to assist in targeting. It flies to a given GPS point and detonates. (Or in the case of GLONASS, somewhere in the same zip code)
Russia doesn’t really have many of these platforms, at least ones that can provide data from contested airspace near the front. Ukrainian troops (and their associated rear area infrastructure) are highly mobile, and even if the Russians are able to ascertain the location of a…
…Ukrainian convoy, or supply dump, or some other soft asset, it won’t be there by the time a Shahed-136 arrives. The Russians are forced to use the Shahed-136s against non-mobile targets that they already had information on. See the attack on the Ukrainian Southern Command HQ.
Just an addendum, by mobile, I specifically mean “is able to move between Russian IMINT satellite passes”, passes which the US has almost certainly provided the Ukrainians with a very accurate timetable of.
Addendum the second, the US actually ran into a similar issue with the GBU-39/B SDB, which only had a GPS seeker, limiting its ability to hit mobile targets. This was fixed in the GBU-53B SDB II which added a tri-mode seeker (radar, infrared homing, and semiactive laser guidance)
The SDBII also includes some internal processing hardware that adds “automatic target recognition features for striking mobile targets such as tanks, vehicles, and mobile command posts”
I don’t think the risk of these drones should be downplayed, they are a necessary replacement as Russia runs low on cruise missiles and air assets (Su-30/34 fleet isn’t looking too great right now). These drones will continue to hit Ukrainian infrastructure deep behind the front.
The Gulf States have already run into huge issues trying to counter these drones.
I agree. Once winter comes there are no more bushes and leaf cover to hide in, and Russians will be even more susceptible to being spotted, or holed up together in a structure. They are also ill-equipped and unmotivated. Ukrainian troops in their Icelandic socks and Swedish parkas should have an easier time destroying them.
I have to think so. In World War 2 the fighting didn't really stop for the winter, why would it stop for the winter almost 80 years later?
The weather may help Ukraine because winter make supply lines slow down. The Russians are likely the ones with the stretched supply lines as Ukraine is fighting in their own country. Plus the Ukrainians have the support of most of the populace.
Imagine someone taking comments from a musician seriously regarding war strategy?
I eagerly await Justin Bieber's viewpoint.
except if they take back control of the House (at least) they'll do so on the back of more crazies like Gaetz, MTG, etc... and they'll continue to ramp up heat and voters to get Kevin who has no spine to take their side. Maybe the Senate stays in lock step. But if someone like Trump takes over and voices support for Russia (and it polls well) do you really think any Republican is going to stand against him? I still think at their heart most Republicans currently in office hate the current version of the monster they created, but they don't know how to stop it and they're hoping it just eventually goes away. But if it occupies the White House again, they'll back it because they're afraid of their own voters.
I don't remember seeing this version before
They’re being compelled to retreat, they’re not suggesting these are ‘goodwill gestures’.
My understanding is that the conscripts can’t be legally deployed outside Russia.
*Abracadabra*
Now Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are inside Russia.
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Excuse me, if we elect someone and the public supports what they’re doing, isn’t that what we expect from representative government?
You wrote it ‘support for Russia’, but it’s going to be framed in the context of bringing an end to war and its attendant destruction.
The ‘no price is too high’ crowd isn’t a majority.
Eisenhower wasn’t elected because of his ‘support for North Korea’.
More evidence you don't have to be smart to be a musician. A silly claim.
Another example of the "miracle weapons are coming" propaganda.
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Apparently denial is actually a river in Russia.
Huh, sounds like another couple of mysterious fires are in order "at the Komsomolsk on Amur Aircraft Facility (KnAAPO) in the eastern region of Russia."
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Sure, sure. A December blitzkrieg with their crack new conscripted soldiers seems like a real possibility. 😂
