This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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I don't know what they learned 50 years ago, and I had a whole post bringing you up to speed on reality, but deleted it because this belongs in another thread.
Speaking of off ramps…
Biden Says Putin Threats Real, Could Spark Nuclear ‘Armageddon’
- President says US trying to find ‘off-ramp’ for Russian leader
President Joe Biden said the US is trying to find an “off-ramp” for Russian President Vladimir Putin and worries his threats to use tactical nuclear weapons are real and could lead to “Armageddon.”
“We’re trying to figure out what is Putin’s off-ramp? Where does he get off? Where does he find a way out?” Biden said Thursday at a fundraiser in New York City. “Where does he find himself in a position that he does not, not only lose face but lose significant power in Russia?”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-threats-real-could-spark-nuclear-armageddon
Someone might want to let our commander in chief know about this false narrative.
Own what you want. Just don't cry about high gas prices.
CNN story about morale issues in the Wagner Group forces. They are short on supplies, and relying more and more on recruits with no experience. The article also for the first time that I recall puts a solid number on Wagner soldiers in Ukraine. 5000. They are also being plugged into lines, which is not their normal mission.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/europe/wagner-ukraine-struggles-marat-gabidullin-cmd-intl/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/europe/wagner-ukraine-struggles-marat-gabidullin-cmd-intl/index.html
Then let's have Congress authorize our participation.
'Contracting' U.S. servicemen into the CIA to have them fight in warzones without Congressional authorization is exactly the kind of end around on the Constitution the War Powers Resolution was created to thwart.
Bush and Bush got Congress to authorize their wars.
A war of choice needs to start with Congress.
Taking the country to war without Congress on the record and on the same page seems like a way to invite a split and failure to achieve goals.
It’s false because it is not incumbent upon us to figure it out and provide it to Russia. It’s not like Russia has not withdrawn forces before. I’m no historian but this website appears to have a good rundown with old stuff but also recent, most recently their own debacle in Afghanistan.
19 Russian Wars Ending in Defeat, From Ivan the Terrible to Vladimir Putin
The Russian invasion of Ukraine is now stretching on into its second year. Many pundits expected the conflict to last weeks at most, and maybe even end in a few days. The basis for what turned out to be gross underestimates was the relative difference in size between the belligerents. Of course...
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You SOB
, I was mentoring a wannabee law student last night and told him he needs to have someone else edit his work as I can edit anyone but myself
I could swear that the entire Chechen army is theater majors-it's all about the props and dramatics.
"Chechen special forces and military equipment are preparing to be sent to #Ukraine"
"Chechen special forces and military equipment are preparing to be sent to #Ukraine"
Near miss but the shrapnel does its job. (Not a direct hit anyway.)
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I resemble that remark.I can edit anyone but myself
I knew someone as beautiful and as accomplished as Finnish prime minister Sanna Marin would agree with me. I loved her mocking laugh at the end as well. Take that @NorthDSMHawk
Not quite as useful as Icelandic woolen socks as winter approaches, but do what they can.
Query: how many of them at the top of the screen were actually hit and how many are former Michigan state football players faking their way out the game?
I think the comparison to the Afghanistan withdrawal is faulty. The Soviet Union was run by the Politburo....multiple voices and and a power structure that went beyond the head of state. Russia is basically a dictatorship and I'm not sure Putin is accountable to anyone.It’s false because it is not incumbent upon us to figure it out and provide it to Russia. It’s not like Russia has not withdrawn forces before. I’m no historian but this website appears to have a good rundown with old stuff but also recent, most recently their own debacle in Afghanistan.
19 Russian Wars Ending in Defeat, From Ivan the Terrible to Vladimir Putin
The Russian invasion of Ukraine is now stretching on into its second year. Many pundits expected the conflict to last weeks at most, and maybe even end in a few days. The basis for what turned out to be gross underestimates was the relative difference in size between the belligerents. Of course...
There's also the fact that Politburo members weren't falling out of windows when they disagreed
Probably some Penn State players in there too.
It is still Russian precedent, albeit arguably distinguishable. The reality is that sometimes countries even as big as Russia, and the United States, for that matter, need to lick their wounds and move on.
If it comes to that, aren’t there multiple persons and entities that would frag him? The billionaire oligarchs I am sure would like to continue living and enjoying their billions of dollars.
Why doesn't Putin just claim that the Nazi threat in Ukraine has been purged with x number of confirmed Nazis killed, have the state media report the same, and GTFO?I think the comparison to the Afghanistan withdrawal is faulty. The Soviet Union was run by the Politburo....multiple voices and and a power structure that went beyond the head of state. Russia is basically a dictatorship and I'm not sure Putin is accountable to anyone.
There's also the fact that Politburo members weren't falling out of windows when they disagreed
I think the only acceptable "off ramp" that could be forced on Ukraine is Russia keeping Crimea and giving up everything else. Ukraine won't accept that and will go down kicking and screaming but that's the only semi-acceptable "off ramp". Not sure Putin would even accept that...
In short I'm not sure an "off ramp" is even possible.
If only Putin hadn't have annexed those lands. Now the West can't back down because Putin will have license to do whatever he wants. (IMO)
