This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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What are the odds of a coup against Putin?
That would be amazing, if his replacement is sane.
That would be amazing, if his replacement is sane.
That CNN footage of the burned out Russky vehicles with the dead body is tough to watch.
Question- any numbers on Ukrainian casualties?
SO grateful for this thread guys. Glad it’s here. 🇺🇸❤️
Question- any numbers on Ukrainian casualties?
SO grateful for this thread guys. Glad it’s here. 🇺🇸❤️
Yep...Russia is not being let off the hook here. Easy for us to celebrate from here, but God bless Ukraine for holding tight given what is happening to their country.
Just speculating, but I'd bet the best parts of Russia's military are inward-facing. You can't keep being a despot if you can't effectively control the people inside the country first and foremost.
I’ve been spending multiple hours on this thread the last few days, and I just hit page 68. I’m home with a sick kid today, so hope to be caught up by this afternoon. For reference page 68 is 20 hours ago and on par with most news headlines this morning. Legendary thread.
I can’t see Russia admitting defeat anytime soon.
I think Russia long term already lost. The world has United around Ukraine. Sanctions and isolation are not going away anytime soon.
somebody even tried to sabotage a yacht of a rich Russian in a foreign port
the reputation of Russia military has taken a huge hit. They seem unorganized and their equipment is shit. They look awful attacking a neighbor, imagine the incompetence if they needed to transport troops via naval forces.
This thread is amazing. Legendary. I’ve ditched all the major sites and am now relying on this thread as my sole source of info.
It is bizarre how much BAU pedestrian and car traffic there is. Ukraines be like “ughhhh Mondays.”
All valid. I would think if we were going to see any large gasp from Russia it would be fairly soon also. Russia has lost long* term no matter what. They will never be feared the same they were again.
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I just saw an American general on CNN. I forget his name but he's on the news weekly, at least.
He said he's observed the Russian military up close and their leadership is "terrible" at all levels.
Dick.
Heat.
EXACTLY why free and fair elections matter
Or you end up with kooks running your country.
And we all know who MANY of those kooks are in the USA right now...
Did you see the video of the little shitty white car just driving by as a missle launches? ZFG.
So far I've only seen them release civilian casualties, which I think was 300+ BEFORE the Kharkiv neighborhood shelling last night, so it could easily double.
I haven't seen much good analysis on Ukrainian losses since the first day, but most people think they're significant but well less than Russia. Obviously it helps with the world on your side, but most people feel like the Ukrainian operational information has been locked down a lot better than expected given the situation.
One of the factors of how ill conceived this was for Russia, is their plan to be so quick they would basically not even acknowledge it. The fact that they've had to pretend for their own people that its no big deal has totally ceded the information battlefield to the Ukrainians. Normally in a war they'd be touting their enemy's losses, but that would require them to acknowledge they are at war. I think they just recently admitted to A casualty on their side.
Anyone else think the orders the Russian soldiers are getting are along the lines of:
Orders: Fire your rockets.
Soldier 1: Where?
Commander: South.
Soldier 1: But....
Commander: I said fire your rockets!
Given how poorly trained many of these conscripts seem to be, I also wonder if the operators of this equipment are even capable of making precise strikes. They may not have even been trained on how to configure the weapons beyond the most basic of commands.
Is this really the best time to be going after the Corona bros?
Stfu Joe, stay on Russia vs Ukraine.
Tow one of those over to Rand Paul's neighbor.... 😉
I just have to say I remember a couple years ago there was an argument from many people that NATO was not necessary anymore.
I think those people need to eat some crow on that one.
I think those people need to eat some crow on that one.
Some of these other leaders of Russia aren’t looking very impressed with Putin today.
Oh snap. I haven’t even considered all of the Russians and Ukrainians not wearing masks. This is really dangerous stuff.
The world banned together for right and wrong. I think you could make an argument either way. I don't think you can dispute it cost the USA way more than it gives the USA.
Full on War Crimes
And SOMEONE ordered that shit.
And needs to be hanged for it.
Indiscriminate artillery shelling in Kharkiv today. Those people have taken the worst of the “liberation” so far.
Besides the numbnuts to selfish to stop derailing it with the petty sniping everywhere else on this board, people on this board have done a pretty amazing job. Somehow we've avoided posting too much that turned out to be bullshit.
And what that means to me is that if you're following the right people out there, there's a lot of pretty good information coming from the front lines. I do think we've been a little ahead of the "actual" news cycle by 12-24 hours in terms of the general trend of how this is going.
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Funeral attire for the death of the Russian economy.
It’s very strange. Russian under Putins control has excelled at at least projecting some sort of alternative reality that pro-Russia people could latch on to as what’s “real”, but they have almost completely and utterly failed at this since their first attack last week. Tucker was utterly pathetic in how he was shilling for Russia prior to the invasion, I haven’t t seen him mentioned on this thread at all since the fighting began.
Not sure if this should be stowed in the political thread but Snowden speaks
I was never for pulling out of NATO. It's an incredibly stupid idea. I will say, one of the very few things Trump was correct on while in office was calling out other NATO countries for dragging their ass on NATO funding. Seems like a few of them are waking up to that at this point, looking at you Germany.
NATO is the only thing that stops the Russians from trying to take each European nation one by one.
I don't entirely disagree with that. But there were some who made the argument that NATO was no longer necessary.
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