This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

[Kinnick.At.Night]

Putin making references to his nuclear arsenal in this is akin to some shithead pulling a gun during a road rage incident. It's stupid, unnecessary and dangerous. He is a deranged child and I hope he's soon removed from power. No matter how it's done.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

I still say it's time for NATO to bring some of it's military might to bear against Russia.

There is no way we'd need a draft at this point the Ukrainian military has been a match for them.

At the very least air cover and close air support.

 

[Joes Place]

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2019-04-03/natos-increases-in-defense-spending-have-little-to-do-with-trump

Hmmmm....who was President in 2014.......lemmee "mull over" that one...

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Trump kept harping on "America paying for NATO", which is fully untrue.

Euro nations did NOT commit 2% GDP to military readiness: that is TRUE. But claiming the US was "footing the bill" for some "imaginary" NATO funding is fully FALSE. And it's being regurgitated repeatedly here.

I recall taking lots of potshots over NordStream 2 here, as well. Seems like my points on that turned out to be fully correct.

The United States of America puts way more into Nato than it gets out of Nato.

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[Joes Place]

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That there is what we call a "market opportunity"....

 

[BrunoMars420]

Looks the usuals are getting this thread off track. Go circle jerk your left vs right shit in another thread

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Could be. There's no way is Russia going to take over Ukraine and hold it. No way.

When our parents talk about the cold war and hiding under desk I feel like the next 48 hours will be the closest we experience to that with this. IF putin is going to throw a Haymarket I would think it happens soon.

 

[TheCainer]

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So Putin still wants all of his previously stated goals? F him.

 

[luvmyhawks]

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From Google translate. Excuse any errors.
12:23-Lash, why are you not answering for so long, are you sure you are on exercises?
14:16- Mom, I'm no longer in the Crimea, not at the EXERCISE
14:33-And where??? Dad asks if you can send a package
14:38- What kind of package moms. I'm just upside down now I want [Possible translation-potentially to kill himself by hanging]
14:47- What are you talking about? What happened?
14:50-Mom, I'm in Ukraine. There is a real war here. I'm scared, we **** on everyone, even on peaceful ones. For everything in a row. We were told that they would greet us, but they threw themselves under our vehicles and did not let us pass. They call us fascists. Mom is very hard for me.

**** man, that is tough to read. Someone needs to put a bullet in Putins head and end this nonsense.

 

[h-hawk]

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I fear Putin will now really unleash the weapons using the presumably failed talks as an excuse.
But every day Ukraine should be growing stronger and Russia weaker.

Also a reminder that the US has told our citizens to get out of Russia ASAP.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

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You are a piece of shit who is incapable of leaving trump out of conversations.


If my dog were as dumb as you, I would shoot him.

 

[Joes Place]

And you're not wrong. The feeling of tensions probably didn't help as an end result. But here's the thing, you mentioned two, two term presidents who bitched about this for years also, but not out in the open. Doesn't look like that solved much.

A: The 2014 agreement "did something"
B: The current US administration has united Europe and NATO in a way Condoleezza Rice "did not think was even possible"

So, let's not rewrite history on NATO here based on old political talking points vs facts.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

You are a piece of shit who is incapable of leaving trump out of conversations.


If my dog were as dumb as you, I would shoot him.

He is mentally ill and likely suicidal. Put him on ignore and it’s a much better place.

 

[Bonerfarts]

The United States of America puts way more into Nato than it gets out of Nato.

I dunno man, we are getting a lot out of it now. Maybe in times of relative peace, but when crap hits the fan, they seem pretty worthy.

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[Joes Place]

Amazing thread, which I have followed from the beginning. I have lurked on HROT for years, so I get al the inside jokes on here. Anyways, as some have mentioned, I can't kick this feeling that that Nat Algren guy was actually, literally, a Russian Bot. I mean that is all he ever posted and he hasn't been back since. And it seems insane to think a Russian Bot would post on an Iowa Hawkeye Off Topic Message Board, but WTF do I know. Honestly it seems like the most logical answer is he actually was a Russian bot.

Not a Russian "bot"

A paid Russian Troll Farmer. And it doesn't surprise me at all, with how prevalent they've been since the 2016 election.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Too soon?

The United States of America puts way more into Nato than it gets out of Nato.

What metric proves this?

 

[bhawk24bob]

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From Google translate. Excuse any errors.
12:23-Lash, why are you not answering for so long, are you sure you are on exercises?
14:16- Mom, I'm no longer in the Crimea, not at the EXERCISE
14:33-And where??? Dad asks if you can send a package
14:38- What kind of package moms. I'm just upside down now I want [Possible translation-potentially to kill himself by hanging]
14:47- What are you talking about? What happened?
14:50-Mom, I'm in Ukraine. There is a real war here. I'm scared, we **** on everyone, even on peaceful ones. For everything in a row. We were told that they would greet us, but they threw themselves under our vehicles and did not let us pass. They call us fascists. Mom is very hard for me.

"Mom, you raised an idiot"

I wish we could stop feeling bad for these morons or the Russian people that are now suffering economically. They could take to the streets, en masse, whenever they truly wanted in order to stop this

 

[SI_NYC]

You two just can't ****ing do it can you?

Trump is part of this as much as we all wish he wasn’t.

 

[TheCainer]

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They can't be that stupid, can they?

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Too soon?

What metric proves this?

Money, and who would actually defend us vs us paying to be the world's police.

 

[Joes Place]

Noooooooooo!!!!!

It's seriously like when they let the developmentally disabled teen who is the "football trainer" for the HS team score a TD in the last game of the season....

Here, Putin = Developmentally disabled child

 

[Tom Paris]

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Laura is truly repulsive in every way. Evil bitch.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Trump is part of this as much as we all wish he wasn’t.

Yep that useless piece of shit poster is as dense as a wall.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Laura is truly repulsive in every way. Evil bitch.

The @Whiskeydeltadeltatango of the board

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Trump is part of this as much as we all wish he wasn’t.

This is a conversation about ehat is currently happening in Ukraine. If you want to talk about Natos response I don't think anyone would complain. Pisspants bring Trump in every chance he gets is not needed and has been directly requested to GTFO.

 

[Chishawk1425]

This is a conversation about ehat is currently happening in Ukraine. If you want to talk about Natos response I don't think anyone would complain. Pisspants bring Trump in every chance he gets is not needed and has been directly requested to GTFO.

You gtfo you've provided nothing of substance here yet again. I have over 100 plus items here of contribution you useless piece of feces.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

The @Whiskeydeltadeltatango of the board

You have zero worth as a human. You are ruined by emotions.

 

[86Hawkeye]

I don't entirely disagree with that. But there were some who made the argument that NATO was no longer necessary.

A thoroughly stupid argument!

 

[Joes Place]

OMG we're seeing the world change before us. Hopefully China is seeing their grandest designs evaporate...

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China is Russia, but with WAY more money and control over their population

Not remotely comparable, and a far greater threat if they started "colonizing" the world's resources.

 

[bhawk24bob]

Not a Russian "bot"

A paid Russian Troll Farmer. And it doesn't surprise me at all, with how prevalent they've been since the 2016 election.

There are two that are noticeably absent in this thread, one of which was starting thread after thread about dealing with a stronger Russia in the leadup to this war

 

[86Hawkeye]

I just hope that in the fog of war, friendly fire does not take down those jets when they are attacking Russians...

They will use IFF (Identification Friend or Foe).

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[Funky Bunch]

"Mom, you raised an idiot"

I wish we could stop feeling bad for these morons or the Russian people that are now suffering economically. They could take to the streets, en masse, whenever they truly wanted in order to stop this

We really don't know what we'd do in the same position

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[86Hawkeye]

So sounds like those talks arn't going anywhere.

Putin is invading them and demanding that they disarm.

I'm afraid to say it but this war could go on for a while.

It will turn into a mini Cold War, which Russia will again lose, as Ukraine will get into the EU and be armed to the teeth. Free and prosperous, right next door to backward Russia. Russia still loses.

 

[Joes Place]

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Russian soldiers literally don't know what to do.

They were given orders to "get into Ukraine" and into a city.
So, they are there. Now what?

Just like the Russian hockey coach in 1980, down a goal with minutes left; never had to actually coach and was flummoxed.

 

[Chishawk1425]

 

[mnole03]

It's seriously like when they let the developmentally disabled teen who is the "football trainer" for the HS team score a TD in the last game of the season....

Here, Putin = Developmentally disabled child

No need to bring developmentally disabled people into this.

Let’s go with a straight up loser.