Thomas Sowell quote

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Typical wingnut. Either doesn't understand what most people mean by "diversity" or is deliberately misusing it to deceive.

Sowell is usually wrong, but not dumb. So my guess is he's deliberately being a jerk.

And look at all our HROT folks jumping at the chance to pile on. Some of them, no doubt, think this proves they aren't racists because - look here! - they're agreeing with a black man!

 

[RNHawk]

Does your nurse wand make parents appear out of thin air? Or are you full of shit?

can you answer the question why BLM opposes the two parent household?

 

[ConvenientParking]

I understand life and the situations people live in, but why would BLM advocate for something that is counterintuitive to raising a minority child. That is my basis for this argument

Do you think BLM is trying to *prevent* two parent households?

 

[William Bonney]

doesn't understand what most people mean by "diversity"

That's a shifting sand there Parser. Its meaning shifts to suit ya'lls fancy.

 

[RNHawk]

Do you think BLM is trying to *prevent* two parent households?

it is in their mission statement

 

[ConvenientParking]

can you answer the question why BLM opposes the two parent household?

I don't doubt that this is the limit of your comprehension

 

[Raglefant]

can you answer the question why BLM opposes the two parent household?

It is pure insanity to suggest that BLM opposes the 2 parent household. Insanity.

 

[RNHawk]

It is pure insanity to suggest that BLM opposes the 2 parent household. Insanity.

what does this mean then? "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement"

Help me to understand.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

The likes on this nonsense are all part of the precious "who me?" crowd.

 

[ConvenientParking]

RN thinks BLM wants to split up black families. Wow.

 

[William Bonney]

what does this mean then? "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement"

Help me to understand.

It's literally out of the cultural Marxist - destroy western civilization- playbook. LITERALLY

 

[RileyHawk]

Either you don't understand the meaning of our conversation or you are just trying to take shots at me. Which is fine, I can handle it. So me wanting kids to grow up in a two parent household is useless horseshit? Even though numerous scientific studies back me up that it is better for the child

So what do you propose should be done by our government to ensure every child grows up in a two parent household? What should happen to the children that don't have that opportunity?

 

[RNHawk]

RN thinks BLM wants to split up black families. Wow.

Can you answer the question or not, it is pretty simple, what does this sentence mean;"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement"

 

[RNHawk]

So what do you propose should be done by our government to ensure every child grows up in a two parent household? What should happen to the children that don't have that opportunity?

That not the point, the point is asking why BLM promotes the disruption of the nuclear family

 

[ConvenientParking]

Can you answer the question or not, it is pretty simple, what does this sentence mean;"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement"

They want to make it less difficult for minority children from broken families to succeed here. Pretty easy to understand.

 

[RileyHawk]

I understand life and the situations people live in, but why would BLM advocate for something that is counterintuitive to raising a minority child. That is my basis for this argument

It's only counter-intuitive to you it appears. The mission isn't to do away with two parent households but to expand the support structure to those who don't have that advantage.

This is a pretty simple concept.

 

[RNHawk]

It's only counter-intuitive to you it appears. The mission isn't to do away with two parent households but to expand the support structure to those who don't have that advantage.

This is a pretty simple concept.

Then why say disrupt?

 

[RNHawk]

They want to make it less difficult for minority children from broken families to succeed here. Pretty easy to understand.

thats your definition of disrupt?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

It's literally out of the cultural Marxist - destroy western civilization- playbook. LITERALLY

Literally out of the cultural Marxist playbook?

Literally?

This should be easy, then:

Please link said cultural Marxist handbook.

And please quote and link the exact literal wording.

I'm really excited. I've always wanted to find a copy of the literal cultural Marxist handbook. I bet it's awesome.

Thanks in advance.

 

[tumorboy]

Won't argue there.

Rather be lazy than lame. Getting a new profile is soooooo lame.

 

[RileyHawk]

what does this mean then? "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement"

Help me to understand.

Very simply - they challenge it to be (or should be as some have suggested) the only method of family structure that can be successful. Again, it's pretty simple.

 

[tumorboy]

Literally out of the cultural Marxist playbook?

Literally?

This should be easy, then:

Please link said cultural Marxist handbook.

And please quote and link the exact literal wording.

I'm really excited. I've always wanted to find a copy of the literal cultural Marxist handbook. I bet it's awesome.

Thanks in advance.

Check Amazon

 

[ConvenientParking]

thats your definition of disrupt?

Your thought patterns obviously need disruption.

 

[RileyHawk]

That not the point, the point is asking why BLM promotes the disruption of the nuclear family

It is the point. You don't want to consider it because your thought process is so shallow, but it most definitely is the point.

 

[William Bonney]

I'm really excited. I've always wanted to find a copy of the literal cultural Marxist handbook. I bet it's awesome.

I was educating you about them back when you were still Zogby. I'm through trying to convince you of anything.

 

[Rudolph]

I understand life and the situations people live in, but why would BLM advocate for something that is counterintuitive to raising a minority child. That is my basis for this argument

Versatility. The notion of multiple functioning types of family structures does not exclude the concept of the two-parent loving home as an option. Promoting that good can come of "non-traditional" homes is neither threatening to the "ideal" nor in competition with it.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Then why say disrupt?

Take a stab at it. Imagine @ConvenientParking's take on this is correct - which it almost certainly is - and ask yourself what they mean by "disrupt."

It's a good exercise in trying to see things from another's point of view, and might be instructive.

If you'll give it an honest try, so will I, and we can compare notes.

 

[RileyHawk]

Then why say disrupt?

Why not? It's disrupting the notion that 2 parent families are the only path to success. That nonsense should be disrupted.

 

[Rudolph]

It is the point. You don't want to consider it because your thought process is so shallow, but it most definitely is the point.

It is shamefully lazy and weak.

 

[ConvenientParking]

I was educating you about them back when you were still Zogby. I'm through trying to convince you of anything.

What are your old handles Bill?

 

[William Bonney]

Every day on here.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Check Amazon

LOL

I literally searched for that. Just in case. And variations.

 

[z_ape]

Definitely some truth in this one.

You have to review your problem solving efforts to make sure you're not creating more problems, problems that may, on balance, cause more harm than good.

You can inadvertently incentivize poor behavior.

This post-hoc analysis would be a good job for conservatives.

But instead of letting analysis do the talking, both sides become instantly entrenched in their position; unwavering, reality be damned.

 

[seminole97]

No shit. That’s Sociology 101 stuff. First off, there is no difference between blacks and whites in the amount of fathers that live in the home vs not, across the same socioeconomic classes.

What you just said is that fatherlessness itself affects blacks and whites similarly. I think you’ll find is no disagreement between yourself and Sowell on that point.
These are human incentives at work in an unfortunate way.

“Such trends are not unique to blacks, nor even to the United States.

The welfare state has led to remarkably similar trends among the white underclass in England over the same period.

Just read "Life at the Bottom," by Theodore Dalrymple, a British physician who worked in a hospital in a white slum neighborhood.

You cannot take any people, of any color, and exempt them from the requirements of civilization -- including work, behavioral standards, personal responsibility and all the other basic things that the clever intelligentsia disdain -- without ruinous consequences to them and to society at large.” -Thomas Sowell

Sowell used marriage data, which doesn’t account for the large portion of unmarried yet together black parents.

Poverty rates for black married couples have been single digit for decades.
Shacking up ain’t married.

How many legs does a cow have if I call a tail a leg?
Four, calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it so.

 

[z_ape]

Typical wingnut. Either doesn't understand what most people mean by "diversity" or is deliberately misusing it to deceive.

Sowell is usually wrong, but not dumb. So my guess is he's deliberately being a jerk.

And look at all our HROT folks jumping at the chance to pile on. Some of them, no doubt, think this proves they aren't racists because - look here! - they're agreeing with a black man!

Too many people are interested in superficial diversity... i.e. a parking lot full of the same model of car with different paint jobs.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

can you answer the question why BLM opposes the two parent household?

You’re clearly confused. You must be thinking of Trumpsters...

 

[Rudolph]

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Definitely some truth in this one.

You have to review your problem solving efforts to make sure you're not creating more problems, problems that may, on balance, cause more harm than good.

You can inadvertently incentivize poor behavior.

This post-hoc analysis would be a good job for conservatives.

But instead of letting analysis do the talking, both sides become instantly entrenched in their position; unwavering, reality be damned.

The moment some dude like this paints broad brushes of "the left" or "the right" I immediately call bullshit.

He's choosing to simplify when suitable, get specific when suitable, and not to find real truth, but rather to promote his truth.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

What you just said is that fatherlessness itself affects blacks and whites similarly. I think you’ll find is no disagreement between yourself and Sowell on that point.
These are human incentives at work in an unfortunate way.

“Such trends are not unique to blacks, nor even to the United States.

The welfare state has led to remarkably similar trends among the white underclass in England over the same period.

Just read "Life at the Bottom," by Theodore Dalrymple, a British physician who worked in a hospital in a white slum neighborhood.

You cannot take any people, of any color, and exempt them from the requirements of civilization -- including work, behavioral standards, personal responsibility and all the other basic things that the clever intelligentsia disdain -- without ruinous consequences to them and to society at large.” -Thomas Sowell




Poverty rates for black married couples have been single digit for decades.
Shacking up ain’t married.

How many legs does a cow have if I call a tail a leg?
Four, calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it so.

Co-parenting in the same house isn’t “shacking up”. Sowell once again looks for any anecdotal evidence to support his hypothesis rather than letting good evidence shape his conclusion.

 

[RNHawk]

Very simply - they challenge it to be (or should be as some have suggested) the only method of family structure that can be successful. Again, it's pretty simple.

Here is the definition of disrupt, which doesn't fly with your explanation. So lets go back to their first sentence. I don't see challenge at all in the definition, all I see is getting rid or destroy or hamper. Why use the word disrupt if that is not what they meant?

We interrupt by causing a disturbance or problem, we drastically destroy the structure of, drerange, turn upside down, make a mess of, disturb, disorder, disorganize, disarrange, interfere with, upset, unsettle, convulse, interrupt, suspend, discontinue, obstruct, impede, hamper, hold up, delay, retard, slow the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disrupt
Definition of disrupt

dis·rupt
/disˈrəpt/
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verb

1. interrupt (an event, activity, or process) by causing a disturbance or problem.
   "a rail strike that could disrupt both passenger and freight service"
   
   Similar:
   throw into confusion
   throw into disorder
   throw into disarray
   cause confusion/turmoil in
   play havoc with
   
   derange
   
   turn upside-down
   make a mess of
   
   disturb
   
   disorder
   
   disorganize
   
   disarrange
   
   interfere with
   upset
   
   unsettle
   
   convulse
   
   interrupt
   
   suspend
   
   discontinue
   
   obstruct
   
   impede
   
   hamper
   
   hold up
   
   delay
   
   retard
   
   slow (down)
   
   • drastically alter or destroy the structure of (something).

 

[Douglas C. Neidermeyer]

His question is BS because the study of sociology is largely done through the interdisciplinary studies of economics, law, public policy, philosophy, political theory, history, etc. There's no shortage of conservative scholars that work in the subject area.

And Sowell was at UChicago when Hayek was in the Social Thought Department.

Pic of Hayek?

Oh, what the hell.…