Times are ‘a Changing. Finally, pay for play is here.

[onlyTheObvious]

And it will still come down to the quality of the staff. Same as it ever was.....

Nil isn’t going away. I don’t see this helping Iowa at all. This new money every big school will have. The NIL will still drive decisions by athletes.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

WE ARE THE PROBLEM! Stop watching tonight, EVERYONE and then see what happens.

 

[blubberhawk]

NIL, which was adopted with the best of intentions to save exploited and enslaved college athletes, has quickly morphed into the professional sports model. Major college sports basically no longer exist in the traditional sense for football, basketball and to a smaller extent baseball. The power college conferences are minor professional leagues now for those sports. Yippee.

All of this will save me hundreds of hours of worry, anger, heartache, and money, etc., in regard to Hawkeye sports. I watch some pro football (Viking fan. used to be a fanatic back in the Alan Page, Jim Marshall era) but no longer have any emotional investment because the players do not care. Players and rosters seem to change, daily. It is very hard to form any emotional attachment. College athletics is at that point for me. It is now only about money. No longer will athletes "bleed black and gold". They will only bleed whatever color pays the most. That's great for them. The schools and athletes will continue to make money while the fans continue to get fleeced.

Also did I read right that they will go back to 2016 to pay college athletes? Will that include every athlete in every sport, man or woman? Absolute insanity. Almost as stupid as the cadaver in the White House forgiving college debt.

 

[Mohawkeye]

Nil isn’t going away. I don’t see this helping Iowa at all. This new money every big school will have. The NIL will still drive decisions by athletes.

I don’t think every school outside of the Big and SEC will be able to afford 20 million a year. That number is likely to go up considerably. I think this will help Iowa marginally, especially in basketball where our NIL is lagging.

 

[Mohawkeye]

All of this will save me hundreds of hours of worry, anger, heartache, and money, etc., in regard to Hawkeye sports. I watch some pro football (Viking fan. used to be a fanatic back in the Alan Page, Jim Marshall era) but no longer have any emotional investment because the players do not care. Players and rosters seem to change, daily. It is very hard to form any emotional attachment. College athletics is at that point for me. It is now only about money. No longer will athletes "bleed black and gold". They will only bleed whatever color pays the most. That's great for them. The schools and athletes will continue to make money while the fans continue to get fleeced.

Also did I read right that they will go back to 2016 to pay college athletes? Will that include every athlete in every sport, man or woman? Absolute insanity. Almost as stupid as the cadaver in the White House forgiving college debt.

Fans are always going to pay up. Have you priced a football game or cable subscription lately? The market decides prices. This just redistributes the money from athletic departments to players. Why is that bad? Let people get paid for the services they provide.

 

[peacehawk]

All of this will save me hundreds of hours of worry, anger, heartache, and money, etc., in regard to Hawkeye sports. I watch some pro football (Viking fan. used to be a fanatic back in the Alan Page, Jim Marshall era) but no longer have any emotional investment because the players do not care. Players and rosters seem to change, daily. It is very hard to form any emotional attachment. College athletics is at that point for me. It is now only about money. No longer will athletes "bleed black and gold". They will only bleed whatever color pays the most. That's great for them. The schools and athletes will continue to make money while the fans continue to get fleeced.

Also did I read right that they will go back to 2016 to pay college athletes? Will that include every athlete in every sport, man or woman? Absolute insanity. Almost as stupid as the cadaver in the White House forgiving college debt.

F*ck Trump.

 

[joelbc1]

Wow. That’s crazy.

No more excuses now for not landing better talent. Gotta pony up the dough to compete in the new Big Ten.

Yeah….handing out money to 17, 18, 19 20 year old kids sounds like a solid solution! What could possibly go wrong? Will these lads and lasses have to pay income taxes on this money?

 

[Bulldogs1974]

This does nothing for Iowa. Teams with big collectives will not change.

 

[doughuddl2]

University of Iowa Sports

A total number of 808 student athletes participate in varsity sports at the school, 373 of whom are male and 435 are female.

If split equally among all it would be $24,700 each.

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[Franisdaman]

University of Iowa Sports

A total number of 808 student athletes participate in varsity sports at the school, 373 of whom are male and 435 are female.

If split equally among all it would be $24,700 each.

It's going to be interesting to see how the $20M will be divided up. Hopefully, football & MBB will get the majority of the money.

I posted this on the first page but it appears that men & women won't have to be paid equally. It looks like, because of Title IX, that a lot of male & female athletes would get a cut of the $21m to $22M PER YEAR but the vast majority of the revenue sharing would be directed towards football and men's basketball.

When it comes to female sports, here are some excerpts from the linked article:

But how does Title IX apply in a revenue-sharing model?

That question remains unclear and there is ongoing litigation in Oregon that could, eventually, provide the answer.

In an interview in January, Baker said he believed that Title IX terminology is more “about equal participation” and not “so much about equal amounts.” That would open the door for a school to share more total revenue with men athletes as long as the school offers revenue to an equal number of women athletes.

In his appearance in Washington D.C., Kessler noted that he “hopes” Title IX is applied in any future athlete compensation model.

What would House v. NCAA settlement mean? A revenue-sharing model to end college amateurism

After months of negotiations in the House antitrust case, the next evolution of athlete compensation is on the horizon.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[HawkLogic]

lol. Go ahead, stop watching. It won’t make a difference, too many people love college sports, myself included.

I’ll never understand why people who otherwise preach capitalism are mad about kids getting paid for a skill. It’s long overdue. Too many coaches and administrators have profited off of these kids for too long. Let the free market reign.

I agree players should be getting some money and coaches less. That said I don't think this plan levels playing field for Iowa and I am less likely to watch. Billionaire sponsored teams will still dominate. So I don't think being pro capitalism and not as interested in college athletics is inconsistent.

 

[joelbc1]

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I agree players should be getting some money and coaches less. That said I don't think this plan levels playing field for Iowa and I am less likely to watch. Billionaire sponsored teams will still dominate. So I don't think being pro capitalism and not as interested in college athletics is inconsistent.

why would the split of this $$ be any different than how money is split in “the real world” of business?

 

[kceasthawk]

I always believed..... and I mean since like the SMU death penalty days of the 80's, when I say "always".....

but I've always believed if a 16 year old can go work at a place and flip burgers, and get paid, an 18 or 20 yr old college student could go to work and play football and get paid. now then, flipping burgers probably pays less than playing pro football. understandable.

but college is not pros. so what I think should eventually happen is "farm teams" for the pros. not affiliated with schools. but then, no schools, no stadiums, no reason to go to iowa city or podunk texas. so it's a catch 22.

when I first heard of paying NIL money, I thought it would be good if it were between a sponsor like nike, and the player. leaving the school out of it. but instead the schools use it for recruiting, which is seemingly wrong, going back to the smu days. so we are in a situation which is eventually going to blow up somehow. dunno how or when.

Its not "seemingly wrong", thats not NIL and never has been. Its simply what some schools are getting a way with at this point, and will hopefully be addressed. "Recruiting" future players is still the same old "bag o cash" and has nothing to do with NIL.....

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Its not "seemingly wrong", thats not NIL and never has been. Its simply what some schools are getting a way with at this point, and will hopefully be addressed. "Recruiting" future players is still the same old "bag o cash" and has nothing to do with NIL.....

ok but how is this all going to end? badly I presume.

 

[Hawkcub01]

Sorry, but landing better talent will still be an issue.

Revenue sharing (up to $22M/year/school) could start as early as the fall of 2025.

Here's the problem: Fran can offer this revenue sharing (which all the of the big schools will be doing) but he still won't be able to offer the big NIL deal. So, unfortunately, the playing field will still not be even.

NIL and how much players can earn from it, by the way, won't be going away. The courts have decided that issue already.

This is exactly how I see it it too some people think this will just “fix” and level the playing field. When in reality everyone will have this money while still having a “huge” NIL edge on us.

 

[hahkize]

This is exactly how I see it it too some people think this will just “fix” and level the playing field. When in reality everyone will have this money while still having a “huge” NIL edge on us.

👍💯

 

[SI_NYC]

Just a reminder, there are 2 arms of SWARM:

* The collective, which fans donate to; this money is used to pay athletes for volunteering. Will this go away? We'll see....

* SWARM Inc, where the big wig donors donate; this funding is used to acquire the Cade McNamara's of the world. This was the arm that got screwed over by Proctor, too.

It's not exactly volunteering if they are getting paid to go, is it? My point was those that are prospering, should be footing the bill.

 

[Hawkcub01]

It's not exactly volunteering if they are getting paid to go, is it? My point was those that are prospering, should be footing the bill.

So please explain this you are saying the athletes should be footing the bill? OR The general pubic who benefits from the wins and such....

 

[SI_NYC]

So please explain this you are saying the athletes should be footing the bill? OR The general pubic who benefits from the wins and such....

I’m saying the universities should be footing the bill. If they have to take a little of the bloated coaches salaries, so be it.

 

[Bearhawk0505]

Time for these overpaid coaches and athletic directors to be checked a little bit. They have been making massive amounts of money on the backs of these kids for the past few decades.

 

[joelbc1]

Time for these overpaid coaches and athletic directors to be checked a little bit. They have been making massive amounts of money on the backs of these kids for the past few decades.

If you have half a brain Bear…..after the last couple of years, you would know why these folks get paid an arm and a leg…..”these kids” are getting free room and board, free education, free medical….and no income taxes…..it ain’t like they they are being raped and abused by Uncle Fred……Paying these kids thousands of dollars……gee, what could possibly go wrong? Phuquin’ 18-21 yr old kids with too much money……hmmmm……………..

 

[Moral]

If you have half a brain Bear…..after the last couple of years, you would know why these folks get paid an arm and a leg…..”these kids” are getting free room and board, free education, free medical….and no income taxes…..it ain’t like they they are being raped and abused by Uncle Fred……Paying these kids thousands of dollars……gee, what could possibly go wrong? Phuquin’ 18-21 yr old kids with too much money……hmmmm……………..

We don't have to protect the young adults from too much money. If a person makes a dumb decision because they are young, dumb, and full of money then that is on them. At least they can afford a lawyer, it is the American way.

 

[Franisdaman]

Time for these overpaid coaches and athletic directors to be checked a little bit. They have been making massive amounts of money on the backs of these kids for the past few decades.

there's going to be a 22% salary cap for players when it comes to revenue sharing; why not have salary caps for ADs and coaches?

 

[joelbc1]

there's going to be a 22% salary cap for players when it comes to revenue sharing; why not have salary caps for ADs and coaches?

Coaches and ADs can get fired, too….and nothing “Ethical” is discussed….what might be the “ethics” involved a player is dropped from a roster for what ever reason? Or with “money” are ethics no longer a priority?