It's one poll. Thought you Rs wanted to move on and roll your sleeves up to get down to the real work?
Top pollster Ann Selzer to retire after bombshell Iowa poll ended in huge miss
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All the leftist polls were bad lol ironically Rasmussen was the best one and every time I shared it here the usual leftists called it propaganda nonsense. Democrats are literally their own worst problem.
OK…but then why is Selzer the point of this “glee”? And in typical MAGAt conspiracy fashion, MAGAts are pointing to some “left wing-Selzer” conspiracy that she intentionally misrepresented her poll because she is a tool of Democrats? Bizarre. Anyone with half a brain and reasonably acquainted with her volume if Iowa election work knows better. Sadly , buffoons like you, scruffy and other continue to spout your ignorance and lies in your effort to “own the libs”…
There's 16 pages of celebration in a single thread about how badly you guys were gonna win the election based entirely on this "poll". Now it's time to eat your crow.
I can eat my crow… what I fail to see is the “piling on” of the pollster who missed. Other than a “bad poll” you guys move into the “cast left-wing conspiracy” mode, ignoring the volume of her previous Iowa election work, which honestly has been second to none in the history of Iowa polling. Rasmussen polls have been comparatively inaccurate to Selzer polling over the past decade or so.
My post was about the endorsements that actually happened Professor.
Start an appreciation thread. No one forced her to retire.
Start an appreciation thread. No one forced her to retire.
To stick it to the libs, sure. But if you think he'll do anything about prices or deporting 20 million people you're going to be disappointed.
He lost millions of jobs his first administration and setup of inflationary conditions. I have zero confidence he won't screw things up even worse this time around.
Because Trump support is impossible to poll.
I immediately knew her poll was fake because she factored in that Trump was going to drop 20% among rural voters.
This is not true. The poll was so far out of reality that she shouldn't have signed off on it. Is this really a difficult concept?
She should be able to release a poll and also be mocked when it is so far out of reality. None of your posts in this thread make a lot of sense
What is bizarre is the reaction to the poll the weekend prior to the election. Anyone that followed the election prior to election day would have known that the results of that poll was not even remotely accurate. She did a poll in the summer showing Trump beating Biden by 15-20 points and then releases one showing Harris winning by 4? That is just non-sensical on her part.
Seems like a valid question to wonder how someone that is so well known for her Iowa election work would release such a poll
What’s difficult about it?
Did you read what sgd said about tge “results” she posted VEFORE the poll was released?
She said they “shocked” her but that she was posting the poll because she believed in her methodology and experience she had gained over the years. Hey, she missed! It happens. Ernie Els 5 putted the first hole of The Masters a few years ago… Shit happens… and “shit” is not always a conspiracy!
Don’t we give folks a second chance if they screw up once in America any more? I mean let’s be honest… take a look at your boy Donald…how many (more) second chances has he had in his life of bad judgement and kerfluffles? Surely Ann Selzer deserves the same courtesy, no?
How so?
She ran a poll about 6 weeks prior to her final poll that showed Harris was only 4 points behind Trump shortly after she entered the campaign. In a few weeks, her numbers indicated Harris had pulled even or slightly ahead..it wasn’t that non-sensical, really. It turned out she was wrong… you say (without ANY proof or evidence) she fudged her polling data…Look at her last Iowa Poll work and tell me why you would think she would fudge” her numbers…and show me using her polling data from last election cycles, how she might be a “tool” of the Democrats.
Nate Silver actually wrote a piece well before her poll basically saying that there weren’t enough outlying polls. That because they were just trying to play it safe pollsters were just pooling around 51-49 and the corresponding state polls to reach that conclusion.
That was one of the reasons I believed Trump would win.
This isn't a "miss". That's the point. Being off by 16 points is either gross incompetence (which merits mocking when you're so public with it) or she was paid off. Which also deserves mocking. You don't Oopsy your way to being 16 points of a 95% confidence poll within 3 points of "certainty".
The deportations are coming. And inflation is coming down fast.
Cope cuz covid. All biden job growth has been rebounding that was already in effect and government subsidies (also data manipulation by the left)
She knew what she was doing. They were worried about Wisconsin and they got her to post phony results to try and give false hope to Wisconsin.
