Trump on grocery prices: "It's hard to bring things down once they're up."

[BioHawk]

Controlled low inflation and continued wage growth is the solution,.. but it's going to take longer than four years to recover what Biden gave up...

FFS. Biden fixes Trump's mess and this is the comment you make. Wow am I not shocked at the lack of outrage at this considering you folks spent the last 4 years talking about how groceries were so expensive.

I'd say wait until you find out what tariffs do to the prices but considering how badly you missed the lesson the last time there's no way in hell you'd figure it out this time around.

 

[LunchBox50]

You're just too simple to understand what he means.

"Lol derp Cherokee County is paradise lol I used to do meth and like to poach ditch chickens lol derp my kid barely graduated high school derp lol why are you guys so simple derp lol"

-Doobi

 

[jonesy5960]

Trump only weighs 215 pounds.

And I know his fitness secret.

 

[FlickShagwell]

what about my eggs????????????

 

[Aardvark86]

I don’t know about eggs alone. But he absolutely said he would make groceries cheaper. Hell in the quote I provided he said he would make the price of everything come down fast.

I don’t know why Trump is immune to accountability, but he sure as hell seems to be given how many morons are accepting his hard pivot away from his campaign promises.

It's a very fair question/sentiment (though of course, now he actually is immune to accountability since he's not eligible for reelection).

Some speculation on my part, but here's some food for thought as an attempt at a possible, semi-serious answer.
1. Naturally, both parties always express concerns about high prices of things and make promises to address those issues.
2. To a certain degree, most of the American people recognize those claims/promises to reflect a certain degree of puffery, and don't take them so literally that they start instantly keeping score. (Perhaps because the reality is that people don't really live through a lot of times when prices are broadly and literally going down as distinguished from slowing inflation - and when they do it's not usually that pleasant an experience.)
3. In Trump's case, I suspect he benefits disproportionately from the puffery syndrome because, well, his claims are always so overblown and inflated that everyone really knows they're puffery. Call it 'super-puffery syndrome' if you will. it's everywhere from the way he talks about immigration, to pricing, to defense, to trade, etc. In other words, contrary to another post, a lot of people hear him and DON'T take him at his word.
4. But equally if not more important here, consider the detail. On the one hand, Trump makes a vague super-puffery claim with pretty much zero detail behind it. But you sort of understand, directionally, where he's headed. On the other hand, Harris goes out to the market explicitly floating the idea of price controls as her approach. Now say what you will about price controls, but the political facts of life are (i) it's a lot easier to dislike/flyspeck the specific than the superpuffery, and (ii) there's a substantial portion of the population who hears 'price controls' and thinks...COMMUNISM (or at least bad economics)! (Notwithstanding the historical irony that the last time we went down that road was...Nixon.) And they know they don't like that, so they choose to take their chances with the cynicism of superpuffery over the communism of price controls.

 

[McLovin32]

And I know his fitness secret.

The Jiminy Glick diet

 

[joelbc1]

Inflation is an interrupter….Normally over time priced normally will rise over time. Inflation is a result of this normal rise in prices by an external force, in this case supply interruptions created by Covid. One thing about capitalism is that once prices increase, they seldom decrease as long as the product is viable. Food is always “viable” as is housing , transportation and many services. There is probably some “economic law” that talks about this but I missed that class.

 

[hawkeyeandy]

Remember when the right criticized Kamala for "word salads"? JFC, we're living in the dumbest possible simulation.

It's no longer called a "word salad." Now it's called "the weave" and it is a sign of genius, but only when DJT does it.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

From the transcript of Trump's interview with Time magazine:

If the prices of groceries don't come down, will your presidency be a failure?

"I don't think so. Look, they got them up. I'd like to bring them down. It's hard to bring things down once they're up. You know, it's very hard. But I think that they will. I think that energy is going to bring them down. I think a better supply chain is going to bring them down. You know, the supply chain is still broken. It's broken. You see it. You go out to the docks and you see all these containers. And I own property in California, in Palos Verdes. They're very nice. And I passed the docks, and I've been doing it for 20 years. I've never seen anything like it. You know, for 17 years, I saw containers and, you know, they'd come off and they'd be taken away—big areas, you know, you know, in that area, you know, where they have the big, the big ships coming in—big, the port. And I'd see this for years as I was out there inspecting property and things, because they own a lot in California. And I look down and I see containers that are, that are 12, 13, 14 containers. You wouldn't believe they can hold each other. It's like crazy. No, the supply chain is is broken. I think a very bad thing is this, what they're doing with the cars. I think they lost also because of cars. You know, there are a lot of reasons, but the car mandate is a disaster. The electric, the EV mandate."

shouldn't this be fixed by a phone call? one fantastic, people are saying one of the best phone calls ever....

 

[Hbotus Dichotomous]

It's a very fair question/sentiment (though of course, now he actually is immune to accountability since he's not eligible for reelection).

Some speculation on my part, but here's some food for thought as an attempt at a possible, semi-serious answer.
1. Naturally, both parties always express concerns about high prices of things and make promises to address those issues.
2. To a certain degree, most of the American people recognize those claims/promises to reflect a certain degree of puffery, and don't take them so literally that they start instantly keeping score. (Perhaps because the reality is that people don't really live through a lot of times when prices are broadly and literally going down as distinguished from slowing inflation - and when they do it's not usually that pleasant an experience.)
3. In Trump's case, I suspect he benefits disproportionately from the puffery syndrome because, well, his claims are always so overblown and inflated that everyone really knows they're puffery. Call it 'super-puffery syndrome' if you will. it's everywhere from the way he talks about immigration, to pricing, to defense, to trade, etc. In other words, contrary to another post, a lot of people hear him and DON'T take him at his word.
4. But equally if not more important here, consider the detail. On the one hand, Trump makes a vague super-puffery claim with pretty much zero detail behind it. On the other hand, Harris goes out to the market explicitly floating the idea of price controls as her approach. Now say what you will about price controls, but the political facts of life are (i) it's a lot easier to dislike/flyspeck the specific than the superpuffery, and (ii) there's a substantial portion of the population who hears 'price controls' and thinks...COMMUNISM (or at least bad economics)! (Notwithstanding the historical irony that the last time we went down that road was...Nixon.) And they know they don't like that, so they choose to take their chances with the cynicism of superpuffery over the communism of price controls.

What a world we live in where this post can be created about or leaders, eh?

 

[Sullivan]

shouldn't this be fixed by a phone call? one fantastic, people are saying one of the best phone calls ever....

It's going to take a bunch of phone calls to clean up all of Biden's messes.

 

[fredjr82]

Just curious when he said he would make eggs cheaper? Gas, sure, because he knows by increasing supply it can go down.

The current administration simply took credit for prices not going up as much as they were, but if you can have policies and actions that limit inflation (which is there every year) then that's a win

Not just eggs. All products

Donald Trump, meanwhile, says his plan to lower the cost of groceries is to place tariffs on food imports.

“We allow a lot of farm product into our country,” he said at a town hall in Michigan last week. “We’re going have to be a little bit like other countries. We’re not going to allow so much — we’re going to let our farmers go to work.”

 

[hawkeyeandy]

So now we believe the president DOES control prices?

 

[Aardvark86]

What a world we live in where this post can be created about or leaders, eh?

indeed,. though my instinct is if you went back into the politics of the mid-late 1800s and maybe even into the muckraking of the early 20th century, you'd probably find some examples of overblown political communication styles that played out in similar ways.

 

[Aardvark86]

personally, i think this is sort of consistent with my hypothesis above (indeed, you laugh at it a bit when you first see it), and beyond that, reflected a certain genius/gift at political communication to distill messaging into absolute simplest good/bad dichtotomy possible. Set aside the message, that sort of thing has value in an era of information overload.

 

[Hbotus Dichotomous]

yeah, though my instinct is if you went back into the politics of the mid-late 1800s and maybe even into the muckraking of the early 20th century, you'd probably find some examples of overblown political communication styles that played out in similar ways.

We just get to hear it all through the megaphone that is realtime media shouted from mostly disingenuous parties . Lucky us.

 

[Aardvark86]

We just get to hear it all through the megaphone that is realtime media shouted from mostly disingenuous parties . Lucky us.

true, though in terms of sheer numbers of outlets, remember that there were a hell of a lot more newspapers then than there are now.

 

[ThorneStockton]

personally, i think this is sort of consistent with my hypothesis above (indeed, you laugh at it a bit when you first see it), and beyond that, reflected a certain genius/gift at political communication to distill messaging into absolute simplest good/bad dichtotomy possible. Set aside the message, that sort of thing has value in an era of information overload.

Genius/gift at political communication or is his target audience especially susceptible/vulnerable to the absolute simplest good/bad dichotomy. It's both, and a lot of the latter. In other contexts they're called marks.

 

[Hbotus Dichotomous]

true, though in terms of sheer numbers of outlets, remember that there were a hell of a lot more newspapers then than there are now.

Sounds like a nice time to be alive. Except for all the cholera, small pox, and dysentery of course.

 

[Aardvark86]

Genius/gift at political communication or is his target audience especially susceptible/vulnerable to the absolute simplest good/bad dichotomy. It's both, and a lot of the latter. In other contexts they're called marks.

ah yes, the 'they're just stupid' retort. Trust me, if you ask marketing professionals, they'll tell you we're all susceptible/vulnerable to the absolute simplest good/bad dichotomy, no matter how much we may want to deny it. So, for example, while trump had good/bad signs relating to prices, my texts were full of brief solicitations/messages relating to abortion access (because decades ago my phone # was associated with a person who gave to such causes).

 

[Aardvark86]

Sounds like a nice time to be alive. Except for all the cholera, small pox, and dysentery of course.

i think the 1950s to the 70s would have been pretty ok, when males generally died of sudden cardiac arrest

 

[Colonoscopy]

If something is good for the populous, Trump will backpedal, if it's good for the donors and billionaires, Trump will hold firm. It's just that simple.

Granted..
It's easy to make the latter happen the way things are

 

[ThorneStockton]

ah yes, the 'they're just stupid' retort. Trust me, if you ask marketing professionals, they'll tell you we're all susceptible/vulnerable to the absolute simplest good/bad dichotomy, no matter how much we may want to deny it. So, for example, while trump had good/bad signs relating to prices, my texts were full of brief solicitations/messages relating to abortion access (because decades ago my phone # was associated with a person who gave to such causes).

Oh okay, I trust you then.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

personally, i think this is sort of consistent with my hypothesis above (indeed, you laugh at it a bit when you first see it), and beyond that, reflected a certain genius/gift at political communication to distill messaging into absolute simplest good/bad dichtotomy possible. Set aside the message, that sort of thing has value in an era of information overload.

Easier to just say lying and fear-mongering works.

 

[Bonerfarts]

I filled up my gas tank at $2.39 per gal today (thanks Joe). Putting this in for the record for when Gas prices spike here in the next couple years.

 

[LunchBox50]

Genius/gift at political communication or is his target audience especially susceptible/vulnerable to the absolute simplest good/bad dichotomy. It's both, and a lot of the latter. In other contexts they're called marks.

Whaaaaaaaaaat??? You can't be serious. By the way — it's Christmas season, so be sure to visit:

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• GetTrumpFragrances.com

 

[Aardvark86]

Easier to just say lying and fear-mongering works.

a chicken in every pot...

 

[ThorneStockton]

Easier to just say lying and fear-mongering works.

I also think there's an element that a lot of Trump's support isn't based on his promises or reality. It's an emotional even visceral attachment around anger, resentment, anti-establishment, EFF YOU! It makes no difference at all if a few months ago Trump promised to lower prices and a few months later he backtracks. He has a whole first term of examples. Hell, Trump could have promised to raise prices and for many, they wouldn't bat an eye. He says wacky shit non-sensical wacky shit all the time, with little detriment.

But he pisses off the right people.

And to get ahead of the bOtH SiDEs: there is a emotional even visceral reaction against all things Trump, which can lead to irrational or illogical positions.

 

[ThorneStockton]

Whaaaaaaaaaat??? You can't be serious. By the way — it's Christmas season, so be sure to visit:

• GetTrumpSneakers.com
• GetTrumpWatches.com
• GetTrumpFragrances.com

Yeah, trust me though, if you ask any marketing professional, we're all the same. That's why they don't even bother trying to differentiate or understand us much.

 

[joelbc1]

It's going to take a bunch of phone calls to clean up all of Biden's messes.

Explain to me…. And others here, just how this is “Biden’s mess”? Other than being in office post Covid when the shit hit the fan, how is this “Biden’s mess”?

 

[QChawks]

the old rockets and feathers

 

[jneffer]

Explain to me…. And others here, just how this is “Biden’s mess”? Other than being in office post Covid when the shit hit the fan, how is this “Biden’s mess”?

biden is non-specifically blamed for inflation

 

[Aardvark86]

I filled up my gas tank at $2.39 per gal today (thanks Joe). Putting this in for the record for when Gas prices spike here in the next couple years.

As I have said to teh chagrin of some, 1/20 is the cutoff from a political reality perspective. JB gets credit/blame for everything before, DT for everything after.

 

[joelbc1]

And I know his fitness secret.

Set the scale at -30 before stepping on it?

 

[LunchBox50]

Easier to just say lying and fear-mongering works.

Are you telling me Trump won't be ending the Russia-Ukraine war in 24 hours as promised? We can't even believe that?

 

[Hans81]

I actually kind of missed the divergent rambling - 'weave' - type stream of consciousness that only Trump can do and get away with. Amusing in a 'can you believe this?' sort of way, disappointing for our country in a 'can you believe this?' sort of way, and also hilarious in a 'can you believe the MAGAs think he's a genius and the non-MAGAs will defend it' sort of way.


Will certainly be an entertaining term.

No more so than Sleepy Joe and Cackling Kamala’s 4-year term. 😜

 

[Hans81]

Talk about mental gymnastics.

It’s true tho…if wage growth exceeds inflation, then you have more purchasing power. 🤔

 

[ISUBryce]

So now we believe the president DOES control prices?

When he tells you he does, should I believe him or not?

 

[drew_hawk]

"Lol derp Cherokee County is paradise lol I used to do meth and like to poach ditch chickens lol derp my kid barely graduated high school derp lol why are you guys so simple derp lol"

-Doobi

2 cups cheerios honey oat crunch. 1 cup milk.

Any grown man who eats a breakfast like this is clearly on another level.

 

[Hans81]

So trump lies to get elected and people call him out. maga bitching about prices for 4 years tells us people voted for trump for prices to come down (supposedly) since he told us they would. Now the truth comes out and maga still defends that fat orange twat. You people are delusional. I figured the cult would’ve slowed a bit post election. But nope full steam ahead on the dumb ****ness.

You’re forgetting that border security was also a major factor in getting Trump elected. Try to keep up 😉