Trump slaps retaliatory measures on Colombia after it turns away deportation flights

[tumorboy]

Look, we did not have a shortage of labor during Trumps first term. It simply was not there, but now we are supposed to believe that if we get rid of SOME of those who have come in illegally in the last 4 years, thee is going to be some labor crisis?

We are not deporting them all. And again, I hate that there is strife in other countries....but we cannot take care of their issues and put our own on the back burner. Now, if you go back and really look at the border numbers during Trump's last years in his first term they were good. With them finally getting the border secure......we will see even better number.

I do agree that we need to do something about the length of time it takes to become a citizen. It should NEVER take 10 years for someone who has a great shot at adding positivity to our country to get citizenship.

Well that’s not what his top adviser. Stephan Miller claimed they would stop at. He wants them all gone. Made serious suggestions to drone bomb the border. He also got in Trump’s ear to kill the deal 17/18. That would have built more wall and upgraded equipment for Birder Patrol. Got killed because it gave the Dreamers a chance at becoming citizens. It’s all or nothing with hardcore members of Trump’s
As for labor shortage most of that was thanks to Corona hitting. There wasn’t any need and frankly Trump’s team turned a blind eye to keep the food supply chains running.
The border is a symptom not the disease. Until we address the pull of jobs. People will find away around it.
As for getting rid of the violent ones great. Just wish he hadn’t given get out of jail card to 1501 violent felons in the previous 5 days. There isn’t consistency.

 

[sober_teacher]

You get that those were TRUE Murders...right? Even Biden's own people were against him doing those.

You said he pardoned them. He did not.

 

[bdcolt45er]

Well that’s not what his top adviser. Stephan Miller claimed they would stop at. He wants them all gone. Made serious suggestions to drone bomb the border. He also got in Trump’s ear to kill the deal 17/18. That would have built more wall and upgraded equipment for Birder Patrol. Got killed because it gave the Dreamers a chance at becoming citizens. It’s all or nothing with hardcore members of Trump’s
As for labor shortage most of that was thanks to Corona hitting. There wasn’t any need and frankly Trump’s team turned a blind eye to keep the food supply chains running.
The border is a symptom not the disease. Until we address the pull of jobs. People will find away around it.
As for getting rid of the violent ones great. Just wish he hadn’t given get out of jail card to 1501 violent felons in the previous 5 days. There isn’t consistency.

China is likely going away as a manufacturing center due to their demographic issues. We should try and build up better manufacturing infrastructure in the US but also in central and South America. Better job prospects in these countries will reduce the flow of immigrants to our country.

 

[Hammerhead02]

China is likely going away as a manufacturing center due to their demographic issues. We should try and build up better manufacturing infrastructure in the US but also in central and South America. Better job prospects in these countries will reduce the flow of immigrants to our country.

Our country doesn't want to reduce the flow of cheap labor. Don't confuse political posturing with business.

 

[libbity bibbity]

They could have been given pardons if they beat cops though

Illegals beat up 2 New York City cops, yet Alvin Bragg, in all of his wisdom, let them walk. They were filmed laughing and flipping off video cameras as they left the police station.

 

[artradley]

Are we going to need a "This might be a little tougher than Trump thought..." thread?

Hell I hope he can stay preoccupied with this kind of nonsense for four years. Or dies before the four years is up.

 

[srams21]

Ultimately people can laugh all they want at my opinion. But history has shown the magnate of jobs is strong enough to overcome any mass deportation plans. We’ve always needed a cheap labor pool for low skill jobs. First Africans and indentured Europeans, Then Chinese, Irish, etc etc. Now Latin Americans and Indians with the Visa skilled labor work around.

I've been trying to tell Republicans this for years. They don't get it.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

You sound sane. Thanks for the entertainment.

Right back at ya.....

 

[Tom Paris]

Who gives a shit.
So he was detained, he should thank them for doing their job.
I’ve been detained and frisked at airport security and thank them for keeping us safe,
Unlike many libs who feel violated

He gave a shit, you uncaring bigoted a-hole

 

[Tom Paris]

Do you know what both sides means? Hbort is far from reality. Far.

Just own it. The worst kind of human being got you to vote for him.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Aren't you an admitted former meth addict? You enabled the cartel. You are a traitor.

Hello New friend...

 

[zappaa]

He gave a shit, you uncaring bigoted a-hole

Groomer of children ^^^
He’s a whiner like you, he should thank them like a real Patriot would!
Now protest

 

[TornadoHawk93]

Well that’s not what his top adviser. Stephan Miller claimed they would stop at. He wants them all gone. Made serious suggestions to drone bomb the border. He also got in Trump’s ear to kill the deal 17/18. That would have built more wall and upgraded equipment for Birder Patrol. Got killed because it gave the Dreamers a chance at becoming citizens. It’s all or nothing with hardcore members of Trump’s
As for labor shortage most of that was thanks to Corona hitting. There wasn’t any need and frankly Trump’s team turned a blind eye to keep the food supply chains running.
The border is a symptom not the disease. Until we address the pull of jobs. People will find away around it.
As for getting rid of the violent ones great. Just wish he hadn’t given get out of jail card to 1501 violent felons in the previous 5 days. There isn’t consistency.

There is a lot wrong here.

First, there is no way they will get them all. Lets see what they do with the criminals first and then start bitching if they go after grandma and grandpa (hint, they won't). Second, Miller NEVER made that threat..it was a lie and was prove so already:

WASHINGTON — Former Department of Homeland Security appointee Miles Taylor claimed in an upcoming book that senior Trump adviser Stephen Miller asked then-Coast Guard commandant Adm. Paul Zukunft if the US could use drones to slaughter migrants at sea. One problem: Both men purportedly involved in the conversation say it never happened.

This is what happens with the left, they fear monger. It happend with Chicago schools this week when they came out and claimed ICA was crashing schools. A complete and utter lie to try and scare people. It is sick and wrong.

Second, Rona had NOTHING to with the lack of a shortage of labor during Trumps first term. Rona hit very late 20 and really ramped up in 21.

And, those J6ers spent 4 years in jail and did not murder anyone....while those of you complaining about them being release are silent about the ACTUAL murders Biden helped in his last day.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

You said he pardoned them. He did not.

Yes, he did....these people are either out of prison or will be getting out soon.

• Leonard Peltier: An Indigenous activist convicted in 1977 for the murders of two FBI agents.
  
  
• Adrian Peeler: Convicted in connection with the 1999 murders of Karen Clarke and her 8-year-old son, Leroy "BJ" Brown, in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Peeler was serving a 35-year federal sentence for drug offenses, concurrent with a 25-year state sentence for conspiracy to commit murder. Biden action will allow for his release on July 16, 2025.
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• The "Waverly Two": Two men convicted of the 1998 murder of a Virginia police officer. They were among nearly 2,500 individuals, including those convicted of serious crimes in whioch Biden's actions allow for a quicker release.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

Illegals beat up 2 New York City cops, yet Alvin Bragg, in all of his wisdom, let them walk. They were filmed laughing and flipping off video cameras as they left the police station.

But see, that doesn't matter to them.

 

[sober_teacher]

Second, Rona had NOTHING to with the lack of a shortage of labor during Trumps first term. Rona hit very late 20 and really ramped up in 21.

You're referring to the Covid right? that hit the US in Q1 2020?

That did not hit in late '20.

 

[HIWILLE]

I hope this won’t affect my ability to get Columbian weather feeds.

Damn I wanna know more about her.

 

[sober_teacher]

Yes, he did....these people are either out of prison or will be getting out soon.

• Leonard Peltier: An Indigenous activist convicted in 1977 for the murders of two FBI agents.
  
  
• Adrian Peeler: Convicted in connection with the 1999 murders of Karen Clarke and her 8-year-old son, Leroy "BJ" Brown, in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Peeler was serving a 35-year federal sentence for drug offenses, concurrent with a 25-year state sentence for conspiracy to commit murder. Biden action will allow for his release on July 16, 2025.
  NBC Connecticut
  
  
• The "Waverly Two": Two men convicted of the 1998 murder of a Virginia police officer. They were among nearly 2,500 individuals, including those convicted of serious crimes in whioch Biden's actions allow for a quicker release.

Your first post on this said Peltier had his sentence commuted - and in fact, is effectively confined to house arrest actually. You also said Biden gave clemency to Peeler. Neither of those is the same thing as a blanket pardon, which wipes the arrest, conviction and everything in between from their legal history.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

You're referring to the Covid right? that hit the US in Q1 2020?

That did not hit in late '20.

You are correct. The first case in Seattle was in January, 2020. My point still remains. There were no shortages of labor in the US for any jobs normally filled by migrant workers in 16, 17, 18 and even through 19. Rona had nothing to do with any labor shortages.

 

[TornadoHawk93]

Your first post on this said Peltier had his sentence commuted - and in fact, is effectively confined to house arrest actually. You also said Biden gave clemency to Peeler. Neither of those is the same thing as a blanket pardon, which wipes the arrest, conviction and everything in between from their legal history.

The fact remains that Biden helped these murders in a way that his own people were against. Would you agree or not. And again, the J6ers did spend 4 years in jail. You simply cannot equate murders with rioters.

 

[sober_teacher]

You are correct. The first case in Seattle was in January, 2020. My point still remains. There were no shortages of labor in the US for any jobs normally filled by migrant workers in 16, 17, 18 and even through 19. Rona had nothing to do with any labor shortages.

Wasn't speaking to that. I was just confused when you said late '20 and thought I had something mixed up.

 

[HIWILLE]

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Where is the the left-wing likes?

 

[TornadoHawk93]

Wasn't speaking to that. I was just confused when you said late '20 and thought I had something mixed up.

No, you were right. Thanks for catching my mistake.

 

[DooBi]

Just own it. The worst kind of human being got you to vote for him.

Keep trying. The worst kind of humanity did not get me to vote for him. What you call the worst of humanity has me rooting for him though.

 

[sober_teacher]

The fact remains that Biden helped these murders in a way that his own people were against. Would you agree or not. And again, the J6ers did spend 4 years in jail.

Some were against it, some were not. Peltier I don't have the biggest problem with - he's turning 80, in ill health and not expected to be long for this world, and has been serving his sentence since the 70s. From what I read he's basically under house arrest as well for the rest of his life, which isn't expected to be that long. I don't have a huge issue with letting an old man die with a little dignity at home, vs the notoriously poor health treatment provided by prisons.

The second guy I have never heard of, so I can't speak to that.

The J6ers meanwhile should still be in prison, or at the very least the ones who were convicted of assaulting police on that day - would you agree to that?

 

[goldmom]

Ahh. Valid but not correct. Got it.

We have different opinions.

 

[tumorboy]

There is a lot wrong here.

First, there is no way they will get them all. Lets see what they do with the criminals first and then start bitching if they go after grandma and grandpa (hint, they won't). Second, Miller NEVER made that threat..it was a lie and was prove so already:

WASHINGTON — Former Department of Homeland Security appointee Miles Taylor claimed in an upcoming book that senior Trump adviser Stephen Miller asked then-Coast Guard commandant Adm. Paul Zukunft if the US could use drones to slaughter migrants at sea. One problem: Both men purportedly involved in the conversation say it never happened.

This is what happens with the left, they fear monger. It happend with Chicago schools this week when they came out and claimed ICA was crashing schools. A complete and utter lie to try and scare people. It is sick and wrong.

Second, Rona had NOTHING to with the lack of a shortage of labor during Trumps first term. Rona hit very late 20 and really ramped up in 21.

And, those J6ers spent 4 years in jail and did not murder anyone....while those of you complaining about them being release are silent about the ACTUAL murders Biden helped in his last day.

1500 people released early for beating the shit out of cops with bear mace, clubs, and other weapons early. All because they did it in Trump’s name. Couple of them got 20 year sentences pardoned. Government proved they organized their fellow Proud Boys & Oathkeepers for a violent siege. That group of people didn’t just get caught up in it and spontaneously riot. Those pardons were wrong. Don’t care about the whataboutism.
One drug dealer released early because he was a white collar drug dealer. Set up a dark website for the exchange of any ellicit substance possible. World wide mind you. Several of which directly contributed to the OD of minors. He also attempted 5 different instances of hiring a hitman. Essentially got out because he’s rich. Similar to Seth Rich pardon under Bill Clinton.
Bottom line I don’t trust Miller his history before getting into Trump’s orbit shows how big of a zealot he is.

 

[hawksurprize]

Party over country.

You got 1 thing right.

 

[MitchLL]

You're referring to the Covid right? that hit the US in Q1 2020?

That did not hit in late '20.

Trump told them Covid was during the Biden term.

We call that "alternative facts".

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

China is likely going away as a manufacturing center due to their demographic issues. We should try and build up better manufacturing infrastructure in the US but also in central and South America. Better job prospects in these countries will reduce the flow of immigrants to our country.

Seems like a good long term strategy.

 

[fsu1jreed]

I bet Columbia got something on the DL also

 

[fsu1jreed]

Our country doesn't want to reduce the flow of cheap labor. Don't confuse political posturing with business.

Facts

 

[Huey Grey]

Colombia has agreed to accept the deported immigrants. Trump will claim major victory over this. But you have to ask yourself what America has actually won? We get to deport a few plane fulls of illegals. Great. Trump created a major international incident to deport just a few plane fulls of immigrants who were very likely helping our economy anyway.

 

[zappaa]

Colombia has agreed to accept the deported immigrants. Trump will claim major victory over this. But you have to ask yourself what America has actually won? We get to deport a few plane fulls of illegals. Great. Trump created a major international incident to deport just a few plane fulls of immigrants who were very likely helping our economy anyway.

We all know you like public safety threats and criminals in this country illegally.
Major international incident…get a grip

 

[Huey Grey]

We all know you like public safety threats and criminals!
Major international incident…get a grip

Colombia has always accepted planes of deported people. They accepted over 180 such planes last year alone.

Trump just threatened major tariffs on an ally, which would be paid by us, for the right. Checks notes. To use military planes to do the deporting.

It makes Trump look like an idiot.

 

[zappaa]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/26/politics/colombia-tariffs-trump-deportation-flights/index.html

Complete victory!
Ally my ass, Columbia means nothing to us in South America or anywhere.
A 180 planes last year.. LMFAO.

And you still support illegal criminals.
See ya !!!!

 

[Huey Grey]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/26/politics/colombia-tariffs-trump-deportation-flights/index.html

Complete victory!
Ally my ass, Columbia means nothing to us in South America or anywhere.
A 180 planes last year.. LMFAO.

And you still support illegal criminals.
See ya !!!!

Again. We didn't actually get anything out of this. Trump shit on the stock market and bred distrust in our ability to be good faith trade partners all so that we can use our own planes to drop these people off back home?

We were already deporting these people. Biden deported some 500 planes back to Colombia. Yet here is Trump, bragging he did a few planes. Dons taking you for a ride.

 

[Tom Paris]

Keep trying. The worst kind of humanity did not get me to vote for him. What you call the worst of humanity has me rooting for him though.

Oh yeah, you care more about cells than actual human beings walking around. Homeless kids, for example. Any foster children yet?

 

[zappaa]

Again. We didn't actually get anything out of this. Trump shit on the stock market and bred distrust in our ability to be good faith trade partners all so that we can use our own planes to drop these people off back home?

We were already deporting these people. Biden deported some 500 planes back to Colombia. Yet here is Trump, bragging he did a few planes. Dons taking you for a ride.

This entire post is made up by a Leftist lunitic.
Biden did nothing of the kind

 

[BioHawk]

China is likely going away as a manufacturing center due to their demographic issues. We should try and build up better manufacturing infrastructure in the US but also in central and South America. Better job prospects in these countries will reduce the flow of immigrants to our country.

China offers something that central and South America can struggle with and that is political stability. It's the reason manufactures didn't got there first. Not only do you have to deal with the government, you need to deal with the gangs and cartels or they won't allow you to do business. You have to pay off like 3 or 4 different groups of people. I guess just dealing with China is cheaper. I don't know if that is still is the case though.