Huh?
She was on the terrorist watch list because of her actions. I don't give a shit what part she is in.
Tulsi Gabbard DNI
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She was on the terrorist watch list because of her actions. I don't give a shit what part she is in.
She was on a terror watch list as political retribution and everyone with a brain knows it. This behavior is why dems got spanked.
Yes, that encapsulates you neo-McCarthyites who carry water for the neocons with literally no reward other than your PTSD.
Do you just imagine that our counter-intelligence agencies are completely incompetent, and despite Hillary’s exhortations, they just can’t find the evidence?
Or is possible you’ve swallowed a political smear, and desperately want to believe it, instead of coming to grips with how easily you’re manipulated?
Being "charged" with practically anything doesn't really carry the same weight that it used to,.. Thanks Dems.
I'd like to see your evidence that Tulsi has committed treason. I'm very interested.
Since when do McCarthyites bother themselves with evidence?
It's the severity of the charge that matters, not the facts!
I appreciate when the Left decides to tell us that John Bolton is an Important Person, and we should automatically believe what he says even when he has absolutely no evidence, but tons of personal motive.
Her secretive meeting in 2017 with Assad, where she had no official authority, isn't a red flag to you???
Damn, you people are gullible.
Where in the video did she fawn over Assad?
"Assad is not the enemy of the United States because Syria does not pose a direct threat to the United States."
I didn't hear one comment in that video that sounded like fawning over Assad.
Who told you that a member of Congress is forbade from meeting with foreign officials? And why did you believe it?
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/should-members-congress-conduct-us-foreign-policy-abroad
Among the powers of the U.S. president as written in the constitution is the ability to conduct foreign policy. Over the past few decades, however, a growing number of prominent lawmakers in Congress have made independent trips abroad and, in some cases, courted controversy for overstepping their bounds by meeting with foreign leaders or making statements on U.S. foreign policy. The most recent example was Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s April visit to Damascus, in which she met with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Her visit drew protests from President Bush, who called her trip “counterproductive.”
Some experts say Pelosi’s visit to Syria was within the bounds of the constitution so long as she spoke for herself and not for the executive branch, which ultimately controls U.S. foreign policy. “It’s very normal for rank-and-file members of Congress to travel to other countries,” but also for House speakers, says Thomas E. Mann, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. “A speaker has constitutional standing. It’s entirely appropriate.” He says in most circumstances, these lawmakers get briefings from the White House before their trips “but sometimes speakers can’t resist moving off on their own.”
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The activism of congressional leaders on the foreign policy front is primarily a post-Cold War phenomenon. Previously, speakers of the house were barely visible outside the United States. Tip O’Neill (D-MA), who was speaker from 1977 until 1987, was among the first house speakers to garner international attention but he rarely traveled abroad, except to Ireland. His successor, Jim Wright (D-TX), however, was very active in foreign policy matters, particularly in Central America. In 1987, he backed a peace plan put forth by then-Costa Rican President Oscar Arias, who won that year’s Nobel Peace Prize, to negotiate with Nicaragua’s leftist Sandinistas. Wright later participated in mediation talks between the ruling Sandinistas and opposition contras, much to the chagrin of the Reagan administration and Republicans in Congress.
...“There is a general sense that the administration’s efforts to isolate, for example, Iran and North Korea have not produced the results hoped for,” says Mann. That has prompted legislative leaders like Pelosi to travel to countries with which the United States has had strained relations. Her trip to Syria, she claims, was one of the recommendations of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, which called for greater engagement with Damascus and Tehran.
But her political opponents accused her of muddling U.S. foreign policy with a country that is on the State Department’s list of state sponsors of terrorism. “I think it’s very important not to have two foreign policies,” Newt Gingrich told reporters. Some say she fumbled a message from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that Israel was ready to negotiate with Syria. The prime minister quickly issued a clarification to reiterate Israel’s stance that Syria remains a part of the “Axis of Evil.” Others applauded Pelosi’s trip. “As far as I can tell, she was very scrupulous and made it clear she was not speaking on behalf of the United States or its government,” says Mann. “When the dust cleared, it turned out there was less there than meets the eye. My own view is her political opponents saw an opportunity to make some hay.”
Damn, you people are gullible.
I think it's more a case, as evidenced by Trump's election, that Mericans are selfish and don't care about anyone but themselves and are just looking for politicians that always promise tax cuts.
Truly pathetic that we accept criminal activity if we, personally, aren't impacted.
Nope,.. It's you Dems and all your lawfare,.. Nobody believes the justice system anymore.
"You people"?
I'll gladly consider any evidence you might have that Tulsi has committed treason.
Nope. Us people ain't too bright ya know.
A little research yielded the following -
During her time in Congress, Gabbard became known for her strong stand against Islamic terrorism in the Middle East and her opposition to U.S. military intervention in the Syrian civil war.
"Assad is not the enemy of the United States because Syria does not pose a direct threat to the United States". In a subsequent interview on CNN, she said "There are brutal dictators in the world. Assad of Syria is one of them. That does not mean the United States should be waging regime-change wars around the world."
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Meeting Asad was a weird thing to do in the capacity she did it. I don't know what it means ultimately, but it obviously is going to raise some eyebrows
I LIKE HOW YOU MIRROR THE SCARY LANGUAGE...
Unannounced for security reasons, but her office publicly spoke about the trip while she was there.
Congresswoman Gabbard makes unannounced trip to Syria
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/congresswoman-gabbard-makes-unannounced-trip-syriaPolitics Jan 18, 2017 11:49 AM EST
WASHINGTON — Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has made an unannounced trip to Syria and Lebanon, traveling to the region two months after she sat down with President-elect Donald Trump to discuss foreign policy.
The Hawaii congresswoman has frequently challenged President Barack Obama on national security issues. In the meeting with Trump, she warned him about escalating the civil war in Syria by establishing a no-fly zone to protect civilians from the bombing. She has said she believes that creating such a safe zone off limits to military aircraft could bring the U.S. into direct conflict with Russia and result in nuclear war.
Spokeswoman Emily Latimer said Wednesday that Gabbard, who is a major in the Army National Guard, “has long been committed to peace and ending counterproductive, interventionist wars.”
Latimer wouldn’t say if Gabbard met with Syrian President Bashar Assad.
“As a member of the Armed Services and Foreign Affairs Committees, and as an individual committed to doing all she can to promote and work for peace, she felt it was important to meet with a number of individuals and groups including religious leaders, humanitarian workers, refugees and government and community leaders,” Latimer said in a statement.
She said she wouldn’t provide any additional details on the trip until Gabbard returns.
The State Department has issued a travel warning for Syria and continues to warn U.S. citizens against all travel to the country.
A State Department official, who was not authorized to speak publicly about the matter, said as the trip was private, the department was not involved.
The office of House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., was not consulted prior to Gabbard’s trip, according to a senior Republican aide.
In 2005, the administration of President George W. Bush withdrew the ambassador from the U.S. Embassy in Damascus following the assassination of Lebanon’s Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri, for which Syrian agents were blamed.
Two years later, the Bush administration and numerous Republicans were critical of then Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., when she made a visit to Syria and met with Assad. In 2010, Obama returned an ambassador to Syria only to remove him and close the embassy a year later amid the Assad government’s worsening crackdown on opposition protesters that turned into the country’s civil war.
As a senator and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Secretary of State John Kerry made at least two trips to Damascus in 2009, before Obama nominated a new ambassador.
In her November meeting with Trump, Gabbard said the two discussed legislation she is pushing that would end what she described as “our country’s illegal war to overthrow the Syrian government.”
Trump asked for the meeting, Gabbard said then, to discuss Syria, the fight to defeat the Islamic State group and al-Qaida, and other foreign policy issues.
Gabbard, who backed Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the Democratic presidential primary, said she accepted the meeting with Trump over concern that a wing of the Republican Party known as the neocons will grow in influence once Trump takes office in January. She said that could push the U.S. more deeply into Syria, where the war now in its sixth year has killed as many as a half-million people.
The Obama administration has refrained from setting up a no-fly, or safe, zone for civilians in Syria partly because of the complexity in enforcing it and the potential for direct military confrontation between the U.S. and Russia.
The administration has refused to target Assad’s forces directly but has provided air support to the battle-hardened Syrian Kurds. Trump, however, has expressed skepticism about U.S. backing for Syrian rebels and hinted at working more closely with Moscow against the Islamic State.
Gabbard’s trip was first reported by Foreign Policy.
The WH does not authorize Congressional travel.
Equal branches of government.
DAMASCUS, April 3 (Reuters) - U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi toured the old city of Damascus on Tuesday after arriving in Syria for a meeting with President Bashar al-Assad which the White House had described as a bad idea.
Pelosi, on a Middle East tour, said on Monday she had "no illusions but great hope" for the talks which she said would focus on the fight against terrorism, Iraq and Lebanon.
The White House has condemned Pelosi's plans to visit Syria and meet Assad, whom the United States has accused of helping destabilise the region, saying it sent the wrong message to the Syrian leader.
Syrian officials said they hoped Pelosi's visit would "restore balance" to U.S. policy in the Middle East.
Asked how she found the old city of Damascus, she told reporters: "Wonderful".
Pelosi, a Democrat, and her high-level delegation, who were given a red carpet reception, were welcomed at Damascus airport by Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem. The delegation holds talks with Assad on Wednesday.
Pelosi has shrugged off the White House criticism of the trip, saying it was a good opportunity to gather facts and build some confidence.
The United States withdrew its ambassador from Damascus shortly after the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri in February 2005.
A handful of Republican and Democratic politicians visited Damascus and met Assad in December after the bipartisan Iraq Study Group recommended a greater diplomatic effort involving Syria and Iran to help calm the violence in Iraq.
The Bush administration has resisted that recommendation.
No, because I remember the same news wasn't given a hysterical tone, about the exact same person.
What was her capacity at the time?
I get that it's weird to be a Dem going against the Dem establishment, but I kind of value people not just willing to go along with warmongers.
"NEW: One Republican senator, who has not yet met with Gabbard personally, told Jewish Insider late Monday that some members of the Senate Intelligence Committee had told colleagues that they were not impressed with her performance during their interviews.
“The Intelligence Committee members are really, really concerned about her. Her interviews have not been going well,” the senator said, speaking on condition of anonymity. “One told me she was the worst-prepared candidate and was kind of trying to get by on her BS personality. So there’s a lot of rumbling among members.”"
