Tyler Cook entering NBA Draft and hiring an agent
- Thread starter Blair Sanderson
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We are going to miss watching an athlete like Cook for a few years. I hope we land someone gifted like him in the near future, such an advantage to have a teammate like that.
Pemsl is going to play a lot. There will be games where he only plays 16 and others where he will play 24. He’s an athletic four who can rebound and pass well. He’s a great player to pair with the other post on the team.
Well see if he is missed then that means we don't make the NCAA tournament.
That seems excessively unnecessary to suffer such a fate for losing Tyler Cook.......
Just sayin.
It took Fran 6 years to recruit Cook and he has had 3 years to look for a recruit that was close to being as athletic, and failed on all fronts to reel one in...and seeing the athletic forwards on teams that Iowa played against and on the many teams that made that NCAA tournament there seem to be plenty out there to be had. It's just one reason that Fran's recruiting drives me nuts.
Rebounding and athletic guards play a big part in making and advancing in the NCAA tournament and Iowa's coaching staff seems to try to go out of their way to make life more difficult then it needs to be.
Advanced metrics =
Totally disagree. The people who don't like them are usually those that don't understand them.
They are far more effective than general statistics.
Take for example the following players :
Andrew Wiggins
OJ Mayo
Ricky Davis
All solid scorers in their careers but all have poor WS/48. Advanced metrics more accurately demonstrate efficiency so you can more readily define if someone is a chucker or a lazy defender which can't be determined easily from traditional metrics. There's a reason despite solid ppg averages 2 of the above were journeyman and Wiggins is wearing out his welcome in Minnesota. Advanced metrics tell that story.
Tyler Cook is much like the 3 above. A flashy scorer with a poor WS/40. Just like those 3 his overall value contribution to the team success is not substantial and he's very replaceable.
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Iowa will be a sure-fire NCAA team and will finish better in conference next year then this year. Nunge and Pemsl won’t individually have the stats that Cook has but will more then cover him. Wieskamp and Garza will both be in all Big Ten team with one of them challenging fir 1st Team. Bigger loss will be Baer. Hopefully Pemsl, Nunge and/or Patrick can fill in for his defensive presence, hustle, and intangibles.
We can only have five guy on the floor at a time so these suggestions that Cord and Jack will match our 2nd team all Big Ten Cook presence in the lineup means that one or both will be all league also.
Suggesting that we will miss Nick more than Tyler is nuts. If true then Nick will be drafted into the NBA in June. Evidently the only reason Iowa did not win the league and make the Final Four this year was the presence of Tyler Cook on our roster. Someone should have told Fran.
Suggesting that we will miss Nick more than Tyler is nuts. If true then Nick will be drafted into the NBA in June. Evidently the only reason Iowa did not win the league and make the Final Four this year was the presence of Tyler Cook on our roster. Someone should have told Fran.
Talk about a post riddled with conjecture and strawmen.
What NBA teams drafted Luke Recker or Greg Brunner, because most would agree they were more effective, better all around college players than Cook.
Now let's look at the facts.
2018-19
PER
Baer: 20.8
Cook: 19.3
WS/40
Baer: .164
Cook: .122
Box Plus/Minus
Baer: 11.4
Cook: 4.2
Baer is better in ever category because he is more efficient. Cook is a turnover machine with mediocre defense and no shooting range.
You have to have watched zero basketball games to conclude Tyler was the best defensive post player. He was as lost as it gets on that end of the floor
Weiskamp is going to go through NBA draft process without an agent. He has said he his most likely to return to Iowa next year tho. Don't blame him for taking the opportunity to get feedback one bit.
You must have Cook confused with Garza. Cook admittedly wasn’t a good help side defender, but he played good positional defense and was very good switching onto guards. I love Garza’s offensive game, but he might be the worst defensive player I have ever seen at Iowa. Constantly out of position, has zero awareness of what’s happening around him, and moves like he has cinder blocks attached to his feet.
Cook and Garza are both poor on that end. Kriener was easily better than both on defense. Not close or debatable
Totally agree. Neither of our starting post players were very good defensively. Kreiner was much better then Cook.
Disagree. Cook’s versatility and ability to switch onto guards was very valuable and the defensive metrics favor Cook over Kriener. The effort wasn’t always there for Cook, which is a valid criticism, but to say that Kriener was better and it’s “not close or debateable” is so laughably wrong that I wonder if you even watched any of the games.
I knew this but the poster I was replying to said “gonna suck next year without Joe” sounding like he was sure he was leaving. I’ll be shocked if he is not back next season.
I think what you are missing is the improvement we will see in Garza and Kreiner as well.
Baer will be missed for his leadership, experience and hustle more than anything else.
What stats that Cook had, stand out as unattainable by either Nunge or Pemsi.
Was it his 51% field goal percentage, or his 64% free throw percentage, or maybe his 7.6 rebounds a game, or his whopping 0 percent 3 point shooting, or maybe is was his 92 turnovers, but he did have 80 assists so he had that going for him.
Even if you combine his entire Iowa 3 year stats, nothing screams NBA
, but best of luck to him, hope he makes lots of money. Once a Hawk, always a Hawk!
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What stats that Cook had, stand out as unattainable by either Nunge or Pemsi.
Was it his 51% field goal percentage, or his 64% free throw percentage, or maybe his 7.6 rebounds a game, or his whopping 0 percent 3 point shooting, or maybe is was his 92 turnovers, but he did have 80 assists so he had that going for him.
Even if you combine his entire Iowa 3 year stats, nothing screams NBA
I don’t know if you have seen my other posts but I’m definitely not a Cook apologist.
I more mean I don’t think either of those two will play enough minutes to accumulate the PPG and RPG as Cook. I do think combined they will be better and I think the team will be better and more efficient with those two.
If Nunge after his red-shirt season doesn't at least average 12 to 13 points a game, i will be shocked.
Conversely, I have a feeling that Pemsl will come off the bench and be someone like Nicholas Baer was for us during his time at Iowa and average somewhere between 8 to 10 a game. Time will till, but as the old saying goes "If If's and buts were candy and nuts"
Conversely, I have a feeling that Pemsl will come off the bench and be someone like Nicholas Baer was for us during his time at Iowa and average somewhere between 8 to 10 a game. Time will till, but as the old saying goes "If If's and buts were candy and nuts"
