I know PSU is recruiting Lamar Stevens as well. Wouldn't that be a lethal combo- just like Cook and Moore at Iowa, yeah, yeah, that's it!
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Kriener wasn't the plan B for the spot offered to Cook. Cook still has a committable offer. Dylan Painter doesn't. It wouldn't surprise me if Reid Nikko doesn't either now.
Just my opinion.
Kriener played his way above Painter and Rakocevic. He is borderline top 150, at least. Between he and Pemsl we've added two guys that can play in McCaffery's system and succeed.
I think we want Cook with all the want a program could have. It is similar to the recruiting of Ed Morrow who had ties to Nebraska. But in this case we have a stronger argument that Cook will win games in the Big Ten, as opposed to languishing at the bottom of the SEC. Most everything I've read gives the nod to Missouri, but we're still in this thing.
Regarding Moore, (and remember this is just my opinion), it is similar to Tyler Ulis in that we were in early and impressed. But his stock has risen and it is possible some bigger names are entering the recruiting picture. Plus, Illinois is home for him.
In each case, Cook and Moore, I'm guessing we have slightly less than a 50/50 chance. Cook to Missouri, Moore to Illinois? Most likely.
Would that be some kind of tragedy? No. We move forward, likely with a Bohannon and unnamed big to add to Pemsl and Kriener. A year from now we would be looking at a potent team that likely scratches between an NCAA bid and something better still in the Big Ten. With the likes of the McCafferys and Weiskamp already in the future.
That's not a bad downside.
Kriener played his way above Painter and Rakocevic. He is borderline top 150, at least. Between he and Pemsl we've added two guys that can play in McCaffery's system and succeed.
I think we want Cook with all the want a program could have. It is similar to the recruiting of Ed Morrow who had ties to Nebraska. But in this case we have a stronger argument that Cook will win games in the Big Ten, as opposed to languishing at the bottom of the SEC. Most everything I've read gives the nod to Missouri, but we're still in this thing.
Regarding Moore, (and remember this is just my opinion), it is similar to Tyler Ulis in that we were in early and impressed. But his stock has risen and it is possible some bigger names are entering the recruiting picture. Plus, Illinois is home for him.
In each case, Cook and Moore, I'm guessing we have slightly less than a 50/50 chance. Cook to Missouri, Moore to Illinois? Most likely.
Would that be some kind of tragedy? No. We move forward, likely with a Bohannon and unnamed big to add to Pemsl and Kriener. A year from now we would be looking at a potent team that likely scratches between an NCAA bid and something better still in the Big Ten. With the likes of the McCafferys and Weiskamp already in the future.
That's not a bad downside.
Without Cook/Rak, Moore/Simpson, it wouldn't terribly surprise me if we stood pat for 2016 and swung for the fences in 2017, when we can boast a top 100 guy for each year of 2017, '18, and '19 already on board for them to play with. By that time, I also expect a few underclassmen to have established reputations as well.
What? I thought I just used 3 examples, one ISU, one UNI, and one Iowa. In these cases, recruits had made commitments in two of the three. Collision had not, but the lame duck coach, Tom Davis, at Iowa took them out of the running when they may well have had a very good chance. I was actually trying not to make a partisan comment.
I'm not sure how "in the picture" Xavier was for Xavier Simpson (I know they made his top 6- I think it was-along with us) but they signed a 4-star 2016 PG today, so that's good news for Iowa
Very "in the picture", many people thought he was all but committed to Xavier. It will be interesting to see where his recruitment goes from here.
Cyclones seem to think he might be headed there. I know he's visiting there within a couple weeks, maybe this weekend.
Two players who together, could help swing a team from a mid-seed NCAA tournament team, top a Top 4 seed for the 4 years following their signings. Are there a pair of players in the country who could say that??
247 gives isu the lead for Simpsons services, take that for what it's worth, which isn't really that much
Strange how those worked but all but one of them came around when both ISU and Iowa were changing coaches.
Had Davis not been cut lose Collison would have gone to Iowa. Had Floyd not left Hinrich was going to ISU.
Saying no Iowa school could "land" McDermott is obviously silly because of his dad and not even being offered, and Barnes was right in the middle of that coaching change too.
Paige is the only one who was actually able to be recruited by a coach not in year zero and Fran was in year two of turning around a program that had become one of the worst in the country.
Fran has basically locked the state down since then (and even stole one back from Wisconsin) and UNI takes the leftovers.
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I would believe that the Krieger commit would be a positive for Cook. With Krieger in the fold, Cook could play the 4 which is probably his true position.
With the wings 2's and 3's committed, PG is he key. Moore is a critical piece.
With the wings 2's and 3's committed, PG is he key. Moore is a critical piece.
They played on the same Nike EYB Global Challenge team last month, representing USA Midwest.
http://www.nikeeyb.com/2015-scores/
247 has Iowa at 100% for Moore, wonder how accurate that is. Hope they are right, we really need this kid!
Would love to see a really quick PG in Fran's fast break offense.
Would love to see a really quick PG in Fran's fast break offense.
No, it's said iowa 100% for a spell, it says cook is a mizzou lock too though. Hopefully they're right on Moore and wrong on cook.
I just looked it up as well and I think one guess was April 21 and the other May 9. Both were guessing Iowa, but I don't give too much weight to these prognostications.
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You always do have to take 247 predictions with a big grain of salt. Often, they're just guessing like we might here.
Who is this sam guy, sounds like he thinks we are right in this thing. Come on tyler join the hawks and part of the BIG, I mean really, the BIG or sec in basketball, that folks is no comparison.
Have either cook or Moore stated when they plan on making a decision. And with Moore I know Iowa and Illinois but is there another school in the mix that has a realistic shot or any blue bloods showing interest?
Don't know which other thread to put this on, but wonder if Fran will reach out to TJ Leaf. We recruited him for awhile and he decommitted from Arizona tonight. Major longshot, but who knows.
Arizona sucks????? Luke warm support hmmmm?? Bullcrap. I live in Tucson, and have for 23 years. Guess you would know better binsfeldcyhawk2 . But really, you have no idea at all. He will go to UCLA or maybe Indiana. If you think Arizona sucks and has luke warm fan support, you are trolling or just uninformed.
AZ has been in back-to-back Elite 8s and averaged more fans per home game than Iowa did last season.
True. Maybe Leaf saw more competition for minutes than he wanted? Just a guess- anyone know better?
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