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This is kind of interesting. I wonder how many of these options would be OK with a fella like Steve King?
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How about polyandry? One woman, more than one man. Supposedly common in the Himalayan countries. Of course, not Biblical (Old Testament, really). And then there were the Egyptian Dynasties where brother and sister were supposed to marry.This is kind of interesting. I wonder how many of these options would be OK with a fella like Steve King?
In a perfect world, one man and one woman would
constitute the traditional Biblical marriage.
However, we do not live in a perfect world and so
one man and many women was a sinful perversion
of God's institution of marriage in the Old Testament.
God never approved of polygamy but He tolerated
it.
Please cite your sources.In a perfect world, one man and one woman would
constitute the traditional Biblical marriage.
However, we do not live in a perfect world and so
one man and many women was a sinful perversion
of God's institution of marriage in the Old Testament.
God never approved of polygamy but He tolerated
it.
I’m going to steal this.In a perfect world, one man and one woman would
constitute the traditional Biblical marriage.
However, we do not live in a perfect world and so
one man and many women was a sinful perversion
of God's institution of marriage in the Old Testament.
God never approved of polygamy but He tolerated
it.
Well, those are bibilical, but not bibilical. See there was Jesus, and while he didn't say anything about types of marriage, we're going to pretend that it somehow makes sense that those don't apply any longer.
BZZZZZZ!!!! Wrong. That's just saying you shouldn't divorce your wife for a new hottie. Hear that Mr. President?Mark 10:1
BZZZZZZ!!!! Wrong. That's just saying you shouldn't divorce your wife for a new hottie. Hear that Mr. President?
I read what you suggested. If there is something else, perhaps you should quote it.Did you stop reading at verse 1?
Jacob had 4 wives who gave him a total of 12 sons.
He was the father of the 12 tribes of Israel. God
never punished Jacob for his polygamy.
I read what you suggested. If there is something else, perhaps you should quote it.
I did. It's talking about divorce. Nothing about leaving behind all the other forms of marriage. Now you feel free to cite something the says otherwise.SMH my fault for thinking you would figure it out on your own read verse 5 through 9
I did. It's talking about divorce. Nothing about leaving behind all the other forms of marriage. Now you feel free to cite something the says otherwise.
lol, I see you left out the context. Typical. But that still doesn't say that a man shouldn't take a war conquest and make her his bride. Or a rape victim. Or his brother's widow. Or more than one woman. It's just saying that while Moses allowed divorce Jesus is saying it's wrong because once you're married you're joined by God. It doesn't explicitly say that you can't marry more than once or any of the other flavors listed. You're reading into what you want to see.““But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,”
Mark 10:6-7 NIV
https://www.bible.com/bible/111/mrk.10.6-7.niv
I did. It's talking about divorce. Nothing about leaving behind all the other forms of marriage. Now you feel free to cite something the says otherwise.
lol, I see you left out the context. Typical. But that still doesn't say that a man shouldn't take a war conquest and make her his bride. Or a rape victim. Or his brother's widow. Or more than one woman. It's just saying that while Moses allowed divorce Jesus is saying it's wrong because once you're married you're joined by God. It doesn't explicitly say that you can't marry more than once or any of the other flavors listed. You're reading into what you want to see.
You’re deflecting here Belem. You left out context too. The Pharisees were trying to catch Jesus in a trap. The whole point of Jesus’s arrival was to tear down the old (man made) law and establish his new covenant.
Bringing up any old Jewish laws is worthless when comparing to Jesus’s new teaching and his new promise.
Here's the whole thing - read it as a whole. What's it about? Divorce.
1 Jesus then left that place and went into the region of Judea and across the Jordan. Again crowds of people came to him, and as was his custom, he taught them.
2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?”
3 “What did Moses command you?” he replied.
4 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.”
5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied.
6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’
7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
8 and the two will become one flesh.’So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.
11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.
12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”
Here's the whole thing - read it as a whole. What's it about? Divorce.
1 Jesus then left that place and went into the region of Judea and across the Jordan. Again crowds of people came to him, and as was his custom, he taught them.
2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?”
3 “What did Moses command you?” he replied.
4 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.”
5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied.
6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’
7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
8 and the two will become one flesh.’So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.
11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.
12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”
I’m going with - because US evangelicals are looking for something to defend their beliefs for $100 Alex!When is Mark 10:6-9 quoted the most?
This is the correct answer. Maybe not the "tolerated it" part. It was still a sin. They just did it, just like some do now.In a perfect world, one man and one woman would
constitute the traditional Biblical marriage.
However, we do not live in a perfect world and so
one man and many women was a sinful perversion
of God's institution of marriage in the Old Testament.
God never approved of polygamy but He tolerated
it.
This is a clear endorsement of same sex marriage. If you divorce your wife, you can avoid the sin Jesus speaks of by marrying another man. Clear as day.Here's the whole thing - read it as a whole. What's it about? Divorce.
1 Jesus then left that place and went into the region of Judea and across the Jordan. Again crowds of people came to him, and as was his custom, he taught them.
2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?”
3 “What did Moses command you?” he replied.
4 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.”
5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied.
6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’
7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
8 and the two will become one flesh.’So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.
11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.
12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”
Yeah, but it’s a tolerable sin.Since we are living in the 21st century, our goal is
to remain faithful to God's purpose for marriage.
He instituted marriage as a relationship between
one man and one woman. Due to sin in the world
some people choose to ignore God's will in various
areas of their life.
Since we are living in the 21st century, our goal is
to remain faithful to God's purpose for marriage.
He instituted marriage as a relationship between
one man and one woman. Due to sin in the world
some people choose to ignore God's will in various
areas of their life.
Could they have PIITB of the women to avoid pregnancies rather than get with eunuchs? I didn't word this well, but it's a real question.It's not just the Bible, though. In ancient Greece, women were wives (property) or slaves, but free men (tops) typically had casual sex for pleasure with eunuchs (bottoms, for obvious reasons) rather than women. Having sex with women was purely for procreation. Why? No birth control. It wasn't about being homosexual, just about avoiding unwanted pregnancies and births.
Sodomy!?!?!? You’re lucky god didn’t smite you just for typing that.Could they have PIITB of the women to avoid pregnancies rather than get with eunuchs? I didn't word this well, but it's a real question.
I can ask for forgiveness, right?Sodomy!?!?!? You’re lucky god didn’t smite you just for typing that.
It’s just getting goodThis thread has went sideways
Edit: I blame the OP
Sorry, no forgiveness for you heathen.I'm not religious.
Funny how you mix the new ans old testament. Try again.This is kind of interesting. I wonder how many of these options would be OK with a fella like Steve King?