UNI vs ISU, great show, embarrassed for TB and IU
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Iowa high school wrestling was significantly better a decade ago than the past few years.
McDonough, Long, DSJ, Soren, Clark, Dylan Peters. Numerous other high D1 AAs.
People are making the claim every year on here that Iowa HS wrestling is improving but I don't think the data supports that. Obviously we won't know how the current HS athletes turn out for a few years yet, but look back at Happels class. One of the best in the state his senior year, yet he is 3rd string at one of the University of Iowa's weakest weights as a 3rd year student. In my view Iowa wrestling has been down for a few years. Last significant impact at D1 level would be around the Sorensen, Clark years.
I would love to see it , a double dual at Carver because you would need 10k plus capacity minimum. If it works within the Hawks BiG scheduling
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Strongly agree that Iowa HS wrestling was a lot better in the first decade of the century than current one.
UNI vs Iowa best case wins for UNI are 141, 149, 174 and 184. 3 of those are toss ups. Iowa wins handily.
You should start breaking the capsules in half.
“Iowa High School wrestling is at a all time high,”
It may be on the rise once again but definitely not at an all time high. This statement alone shows what kind of ignorant person you are!
It may be on the rise once again but definitely not at an all time high. This statement alone shows what kind of ignorant person you are!
We certainly didnt see many Iowa preps AAing last year or probably this year and that's the real test here.
However the last 3 years or so you've seen a lot more underclassmen wrestling in the HS finals. For every Clark and McD, there is a Meeks and Marlin. You dont know how success in HS will translate to college but having a higher number if wrestlers having summer success only helps.
I feel more comfortable with the list of the top HS kids now than I did 5 years ago. It's not long enough to be a trend but it's a start.
We all want Iowa to wrestle the top Big10 teams like PSU/OSU/Mich each year, but Iowa does not control their Big10 schedule, so there's not much they can do about that. The non-Big10 schedule this year included:
Team 2018 NCAA Finish
OK St 13
Lehigh 15
Kent St 22
Princeton 26
CSUB 32
ISU 45
UNI finished 24th in 2018, so they wouldn't have done much to improve the strength of schedule unless you bumped out ISU which isn't likely to happen (I'm sure Dresser would be whining if that happened). I'd like to see Iowa wrestle both UNI and ISU each year, but it would need to be in a large enough arena to accommodate the huge UI fanbase.
Team 2018 NCAA Finish
OK St 13
Lehigh 15
Kent St 22
Princeton 26
CSUB 32
ISU 45
UNI finished 24th in 2018, so they wouldn't have done much to improve the strength of schedule unless you bumped out ISU which isn't likely to happen (I'm sure Dresser would be whining if that happened). I'd like to see Iowa wrestle both UNI and ISU each year, but it would need to be in a large enough arena to accommodate the huge UI fanbase.
Mike Schwab is an embarrassment to UNI wrestling and the Schwab family. I was at the dual last night and in line for the concession with him right before he decided to sneak up front and cut right in front of about 15 people. Nice role model!
I would have preferred that last night's dual be held in McLeod instead of West Gym. But no school is obligated to make those accommodations in the interest of visitors/visiting fans. If they feel that their best advantage is to wrestle in a cracker box, then fine. If they're comfortable losing out on potential ticket revenue by using a smaller venue or by limiting seating, so be it.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
Mike has always been that way. There's a VERY long story I could tell people about what happened a long time ago when Don Briggs was HC. And what resulted in him becoming an ex-HC.
But, I'm not.
UNI cries all the time about everything. We should not oblige them simply because they're crybabies.
Agree with this. It's a shame too because an extra 2000 seats filled at $10 a pop, is a good chunk of change no matter what your budget. Granted there are probably extra cost associated with a larger arena, but I would think concessions would offset that a great deal.
Iowa has enjoyed a big fan base for a long time and I'm glad to see ISU, Wisco, Rutgers and others, really push to get butts in seats, it makes an impact on the bottom line Still don't know why psu (6500) and soon fosu with their new joint (4500), would focus on such small spaces as the sport seems to be growing. psu could sell 9000 tickets in an arena against the worst teams during a hurricane yet they choose to turn away 2500 potential ticket buyers for every home meet to wrestle in a smaller venue. I know their are some issues with BJC but work it out, you have fans that want to see your team.
Several people don’t think to highly of mike for his role in what happened. He’s also been an embarrassment prettty much anywhere he’s coachedMike has always been that way. There's a VERY long story I could tell people about what happened a long time ago when Don Briggs was HC. And what resulted in him becoming an ex-HC.
But, I'm not.
Good Lord did that make you feel better.
No, you embarrass yourself with this thread. The bad schedule is old news and we've all talked about it. Iowa high school wrestling is not at an all-time high, but it may be improving. Jimmy Z is just surviving out in Corvallis. Div 3 and NAIA have little to do with Iowa's efforts, and I haven't seen any better code of conduct from Schwabby than I have from Tom Brands. I heard Schwab once call some of his wrestlers trash as in Take Out the Trash. Won't hear that from Brands. I like seeing ISU and UNI do better, but neither of them will contend with Penn State any time soon. So you can be an ignorant putz, or you can lose your prejudices and help the team prosper. Your choice.
UNI has earned the right to a home and home. We’d beat them but Schwab has his guys ready to go and it’d be great for fans of both universities. Would love to see it in Carver and McLeod. Both would sell out and we’d get some interesting match ups.
I was just about to post the exact same thoughts verbatim. I love McLeod. It would be great to watch a dual there.
Spencer Lee - 27 points
UNI & ISU - 23 points
UNI & ISU - 23 points
Iowa HS has nobody in top 5 nationally, and only 3 in top 10. 6 weights have no one in top 20. Not looking particularly strong to me.
Iowa HS nationally ranked guys (FLO):
106 none
113 #19
120 #14
126 #15
132 #19
138 none
145 none
152 #9
160 #11, 17
170 none
180 none
195 #9, 16
220 none
Hwt #8
Iowa HS nationally ranked guys (FLO):
106 none
113 #19
120 #14
126 #15
132 #19
138 none
145 none
152 #9
160 #11, 17
170 none
180 none
195 #9, 16
220 none
Hwt #8
Thanks for the breakdown. Any chance you can include names next to the rankings? Or just send the link of wherever you're viewing this.
Other than not having PSU and Ohio St on the schedule, I'm glad Iowa is scheduling teams we haven't seen. From a coaching standpoint you need to see these teams before NCAA tournament to get film, scouting reports. This has been going on since Gable era.
Apply the same standards to every other team, why haven't they scheduled Cornell (big red) Okie st, NC State, ect.
Everyone wants Iowa because we draw large crowds, we dont have to move our events to a tiny arena so we can boast about sellout crowds.
Apply the same standards to every other team, why haven't they scheduled Cornell (big red) Okie st, NC State, ect.
Everyone wants Iowa because we draw large crowds, we dont have to move our events to a tiny arena so we can boast about sellout crowds.
I remember taking my kid to wrestle USA State in the West Gym. It was even shitty for that much less a College Dual. We came from a 3A High School in Iowa and had better facilities than the West Gym.
The McLeod Center or the Dome would be suitable but looks like there are some relationship issues between Shaggy and TB before Iowa and NIU wrestle. If NIU insists only wrestling in the West Gym then maybe throw them a bone and only offer Home-Home meets at Carver.
The McLeod Center or the Dome would be suitable but looks like there are some relationship issues between Shaggy and TB before Iowa and NIU wrestle. If NIU insists only wrestling in the West Gym then maybe throw them a bone and only offer Home-Home meets at Carver.
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Mike has always been that way. There's a VERY long story I could tell people about what happened a long time ago when Don Briggs was HC. And what resulted in him becoming an ex-HC.
But, I'm not.
Does the story involve Briggs helping a wrestler get home for the funeral of a family member and then being turned into the NCAA by Schwabb because he thought it would be his shot at the uni job and then getting uni put on sanctions that resulted in Briggs losing his job & uni hiring the ultimate pos Manning instead Greenlee?
You've been around a while, too. At the time, there was also talk that Briggs was somewhat responsible/blamed for not getting on top of Mark's staph infection that led to the end of his career.
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If it isn't an option why was the last Iowa/UNI dual in CF in the West Gym? At one point in time, UNI was insistent at wrestling the dual there but that may have changed.
I assume you mean Mark Schwab.
Briggs lost his job first and foremost because he wasn't an effective wrestling coach anymore.
You directly reply to a message that isn't even in the thread but I'm the dummy.
I asked a question about whether UNI has dropped that demand.
The proliferation of BS accounts/posters is getting really ugly on here.
Signed, a trying-to-be patient non-troll from another fan base.
Signed, a trying-to-be patient non-troll from another fan base.
