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How does this scenario even work? It's like the LIV tour for college football. Who would care?We're just inching closer to all of the major programs consolidating and wondering why they're splitting athletic money with schools like Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, etc.
I just love the grant of rights we are stuck in for eternity thanks to some shortsighted “leaders” at FSU.
The entire ACC membership signed the GOR so they could get TV revenue. However ESPN has a separate Broadcast contract and no one from FSU has seen it. Which is ridiculous. If They have a walk away clause which many say they do then the GOR supposedly becomes useless/void.I just love the grant of rights we are stuck in for eternity thanks to some shortsighted “leaders” at FSU.
Imagine having to make that sell to a recruit from Cal/Arizona/Hawaii that they'll be playing 4-5 games in each year in Iowa/Minnesota/Wisconsin/OhioUSC and UCLA fans won’t like the weather in Kinnick in late fall 😎
All are in the GOR, which sucks because, we’ll the ACC sucks. That said if there is an exit clause, I’d be in for joining the Big 10.Is FSU locked in to the ACC until 2036? Wouldn’t all current ACC members be under that same grant of rights? Or did FSU do something unique that would prevent them from leaving and/or incurring significantly more penalty?
All contracts can be broken, especially if enough schools leave in a short time period. They could argue quite effectively that, in addition to the contract not living up to the expectations due to poor management, the conference in essence is now dissolved and not a viable entity that can be sustained for duration of contract. It is effective to prevent one or maybe two schools going. 6-7 schools at same time, nope.All are in the GOR, which sucks because, we’ll the ACC sucks. That said if there is an exit clause, I’d be in for joining the Big 10.
It's a lot different from going Cold to Hot than Hot to Cold. Hot to Hotter (i.e. Arizona) Well that might be the worst of all.I would 1) stop assuming that these two schools have never seen cold weather and 2) stop assuming that either school plays in the Midwest in November
That Michigan game was cold. Beers would freeze shortly after opening them at the tailgate. I remember 2000 vs northwestern was cold and brisk as well. Those are the 2 that always standout for me.Of course we exaggerate how cold it actually is here during football season. There have only been 5 games start in the 20's and the record was 19 degrees for the start of the Michigan game. Of course 25 with a damp wind can be cold for fans but players, not so much...
The Michigan pregame Tailgate was brutal. During the game wasn't bad. Maybe because we were packed in or hypothermia already set in. I remember having to de-thaw before taking a pee.That Michigan game was cold. Beers would freeze shortly after opening them at the tailgate. I remember 2000 vs northwestern was cold and brisk as well. Those are the 2 that always standout for me.
Beach volleyball..... I'm listening. Water Polo.... I am outThe sport of beach volleyball is not included with USC and UCLA coming to the Big Ten.
Your beers had too much water in them. Best to go straight whiskey all day.That Michigan game was cold. Beers would freeze shortly after opening them at the tailgate. I remember 2000 vs northwestern was cold and brisk as well. Those are the 2 that always standout for me.
This is exactly right.All contracts can be broken, especially if enough schools leave in a short time period. They could argue quite effectively that, in addition to the contract not living up to the expectations due to poor management, the conference in essence is now dissolved and not a viable entity that can be sustained for duration of contract. It is effective to prevent one or maybe two schools going. 6-7 schools at same time, nope.
Sidebar: add me to the list of folks really saddened by what is happening to college football due to NIL. The money being thrown around is shocking and not sustainable for many. You basically have a bunch of rich boosters / billionaire alums ponying up tens of millions for a roster that they get little financial return from. Unlike being owner of a professional team, these guys get no revenue from ticket sales nor TV/Radio nor official team merchandise nor conference (league) revenue. All they get is some dinky amount of money for using the athletes likeness that does not come close to covering the amount paid for some of the kids. So here is where things will get bad-these rich people do not like losing money. The only payout for them is a National Championship and they only give one per year. Most of these investors are going to walk away in next few years except for the ones winning or playing for National Championships. It is just not sustainable to have 40-50 schools try to get their boosters to have 20-40 million dollar rosters, every year.
Really? Becasue I can think of several seasons in the last 10 years where Iowa was in position and had their chances to compete for a title in both sports. Hell, last season Iowa football was in the Top 5 at one point. Basketball won the Big Ten Tournament and had a good NCAA seed before crapping the bed.min the end Iowa has never been further away from competing for a championship in football or basketball.
Yeah, they've both played in Wazzu and Seattle in crap weather. Oregon isn't exactly balmy in November either. Neither is Utah or Colorado.USC and UCLA fans won’t like the weather in Kinnick in late fall 😎
You flip the schedule. During the non-conference portion these schools are barnstorming all over the country. So what the west coast schools do now is play a more regional OOC schedule and do their barnstorming during the conference season.While I think the Big Ten had to do this and I'm pumped about away games at the Coliseum and Rose Bowl, I have to imagine this will suck for the sports that play midweek. I'm not sure if the Big Ten will do some special scheduling, but a Wednesday night basketball at 7pm CT in Los Angeles can't be a fun trip
The only Iowa FB team under Ferentz that had the players to win it all was 2002. I admire your stance and your fandom, but we have to be realistic. 2008 was a loaded team except for QB, and 2009 was pretty close and that team was built in the mold of those early Saban teams. But we had troubles with bad teams and Stanzi’s injury was unfortunate.Really? Becasue I can think of several seasons in the last 10 years where Iowa was in position and had their chances to compete for a title in both sports. Hell, last season Iowa football was in the Top 5 at one point. Basketball won the Big Ten Tournament and had a good NCAA seed before crapping the bed.
Iowa has the programs, athletes, and teams to compete, we just crap the bed.
Vodka.Your beers had too much water in them. Best to go straight whiskey all day.
They probably need a super majority of the members to bust it up, and I am not so sure they can get to that. At this point, I am guessing Clemson, FSU, Miami and Va Tech would be a group of 4 to offer to the SEC or Big 10. Maybe the North Carolina teams can band together to go to the other and break up the GOR. I am guessing something like that needs to happen or the ACC gets Notre Dame and some other marketable teams to get to 20 with a contract closer in revenue to Big 10 and SEC. Move to a Big 3 conferences of 20 each. Something probably needs to happen within the next 3-5 years or we will be playing in a different level of football.All are in the GOR, which sucks because, we’ll the ACC sucks. That said if there is an exit clause, I’d be in for joining the Big 10.
Assuming the Big 10 isn't done, and 16 will turn into 24. Here is my wish list to maximize the footprint into fertile recruiting grounds.They probably need a super majority of the members to bust it up, and I am not so sure they can get to that. At this point, I am guessing Clemson, FSU, Miami and Va Tech would be a group of 4 to offer to the SEC or Big 10. Maybe the North Carolina teams can band together to go to the other and break up the GOR. I am guessing something like that needs to happen or the ACC gets Notre Dame and some other marketable teams to get to 20 with a contract closer in revenue to Big 10 and SEC. Move to a Big 3 conferences of 20 each. Something probably needs to happen within the next 3-5 years or we will be playing in a different level of football.
Assuming the Big 10 isn't done, and 16 will turn into 24. Here is my wish list to maximize the footprint into fertile recruiting grounds.
Division 1
Division 2
- UCLA
- USC
- Washington
- Stanford
- TCU
- Nebraska
Division 3
- Iowa
- Wisconsin
- Minnesota
- Notre Dame
- Northwestern
- Illinois
Division 4
- Michigan
- Michigan State
- Ohio State
- Purdue
- Indiana
- North Carolina
- PSU
- Maryland
- Rutgers
- FSU
- Georgia Tech
- Clemson
I waffled between Virginia and TCU, but thought we have an inroad to VA already with Maryland, and TCU could give u a foothold in Texas, especially the Dallas area. The other contender I was considering was Colorado, but again, preferred the Texas foothold.Reasonable list. I think Virginia might get some eyes on it…very respectable research school with AAU credentials. Clemson actually isn’t.
Is TCU an AAU accredited institution?I waffled between Virginia and TCU, but thought we have an inroad to VA already with Maryland, and TCU could give u a foothold in Texas. The other contender I was considering was Colorado, but again, preferred the Texas foothold.
Based on beating Penn State. A team that turned out to be bad.Really? Becasue I can think of several seasons in the last 10 years where Iowa was in position and had their chances to compete for a title in both sports. Hell, last season Iowa football was in the Top 5 at one point. Basketball won the Big Ten Tournament and had a good NCAA seed before crapping the bed.
Iowa has the programs, athletes, and teams to compete, we just crap the bed.
No https://www.aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members but neither is Nebraska anymore. TCU is a good school, however.Is TCU an AAU accredited institution?
No https://www.aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members but neither is Nebraska anymore. TCU is a good school, however.