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Video of Mizzou student protests at parade

I didn't see any flash mob people stopping folks from leaving....

So, again, liberty means:

You can sing.

You can dance.

You can scream.

You can shout.

But you can't make me sit still and listen to it.
 
I want to put a nativity scene on the courthouse lawn. You have no problem with that do you?
You personally want to do that? Go for it. You don't mind if I take it down or put my own do you?

And no this was nothing like yelling fire and no one touched anyone. That seems to be a very hard point for some of you to acknowledge. I suspect most of you aren't watching the video.
 
I didn't see any flash mob people stopping folks from leaving....

So, again, liberty means:

You can sing.

You can dance.

You can scream.

You can shout.

But you can't make me sit still and listen to it.
You didn't see that in the video you didn't watch either.
 
You didn't see that in the video you didn't watch either.

I watched the ten minutes of infringement.

The president was criticized for not responding to the protesters. Didn't even look at them!

I can't imagine what he could have possibly said that would make them get out of the way so the parade could continue. They were going to enslave this man for 10 minutes. That was the plan. To infringe on his rights the way they believe their rights have been infringed.

Well, two wrongs don't make a right.
 
No, poor showing by you. Especially you, one of the more reasonable leftites here. I am disappoint.

From my vantage, you do like the protesters - more specifically their message - so you don't want them carted away.

How did the Columbia Police disband these lawful peaceful protesters anyway, without further incident? Should be an uproar, right?
The right is bring the fascism tonight. Gotta keep those parades running on time.
 
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You personally want to do that? Go for it. You don't mind if I take it down or put my own do you?

And no this was nothing like yelling fire and no one touched anyone. That seems to be a very hard point for some of you to acknowledge. I suspect most of you aren't watching the video.

I watched the whole thing and all I kept thinking about was what if that parade had been the Selma March? What if the protestors had been a bunch of rednecks refusing to move?
 
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I watched the whole thing and all I kept thinking about was what if that parade had been the Selma March? What if the protestors had been a bunch of rednecks refusing to move?
A shout down would have been a welcome alternative to the real assault that actually happened. A faction of you don't know what freedom riders were and don't know what happened at Selma. I'm not sure you all are qualified to judge these students, who ironically were attempting to draw attention to this very ignorance. Learn some history, then learn some law, then figure out the difference between demonstrating and assault. Some of you have gotten a little soft and your visions of freedom are looking a little chinchy.
 
A shout down would have been a welcome alternative to the real assault that actually happened. A faction of you don't know what freedom riders were and don't know what happened at Selma. I'm not sure you all are qualified to judge these students, who ironically were attempting to draw attention to this very ignorance. Learn some history, then learn some law, then figure out the difference between demonstrating and assault. Some of you have gotten a little soft and your visions of freedom are looking a little chinchy.

I have no problem with people riding buses to the protests. Just don't infringe on anybody else's rights when you get there. M'kay?
 
Still have no idea what the freedom riders were do you?

Freedom Riders were civil rights activists who rode interstate buses into the segregated southern United States in 1961 and following years to challenge the non-enforcement of United States Supreme Court decisions.
 
Freedom Riders were civil rights activists who rode interstate buses into the segregated southern United States in 1961 and following years to challenge the non-enforcement of United States Supreme Court decisions.
Keep reading. Let me know when you get to the part where they would break local laws to demonstrate the injustice of the system. Then read what the locals did, I think you'll enjoy their response.
 
A shout down would have been a welcome alternative to the real assault that actually happened. A faction of you don't know what freedom riders were and don't know what happened at Selma. I'm not sure you all are qualified to judge these students, who ironically were attempting to draw attention to this very ignorance. Learn some history, then learn some law, then figure out the difference between demonstrating and assault. Some of you have gotten a little soft and your visions of freedom are looking a little chinchy.

There it is. We the rag-proletariat don't know enough compared to the enlightened ones! o_O

Natural doesn't want to discuss Selma.

This is where the grain separates from the chaff. A REAL advocate of freedom will recognize what it is and when it is being denied. Right, left, all that stuff is a bunch of moronic hatred between two sides that couldn't get along if you plucked their claws, teeth and put blindfolds on them. They would find someway to fight.

I mentioned the nativity scene and the immediate "No way!" response shows there is no room for tolerance. I wonder if six or seven large Christians stood in front of a bakery and denied entrance unless they were shoved out of the way would meet with natural's approval? Hey, they don't work for the bakery, just guys standing in front of it...and they only happen to keep certain folks out!

It's unfortunate...but we need laws (and I hate laws) more and more as people lose interest in getting along with each other. The right get's it....they hate certain people. The left, pretends they don't. But actions speak louder than words.
 
There it is. We the rag-proletariat don't know enough compared to the enlightened ones! o_O

Natural doesn't want to discuss Selma.

This is where the grain separates from the chaff. A REAL advocate of freedom will recognize what it is and when it is being denied. Right, left, all that stuff is a bunch of moronic hatred between two sides that couldn't get along if you plucked their claws, teeth and put blindfolds on them. They would find someway to fight.

I mentioned the nativity scene and the immediate "No way!" response shows there is no room for tolerance. I wonder if six or seven large Christians stood in front of a bakery and denied entrance unless they were shoved out of the way would meet with natural's approval? Hey, they don't work for the bakery, just guys standing in front of it...and they only happen to keep certain folks out!

It's unfortunate...but we need laws (and I hate laws) more and more as people lose interest in getting along with each other. The right get's it....they hate certain people. The left, pretends they don't. But actions speak louder than words.
Dude, you must be drunk. First I'm not avoiding Selma, you don't know enough about it if you think a protest from rednecks would have been a problem. Second, that's the opposite of what I wrote about the nativity. You're not enlightened, but you could fix that when you sober up.
 
Dude, you must be drunk. First I'm not avoiding Selma, you don't know enough about it if you think a protest from rednecks would have been a problem. Second, that's the opposite of what I wrote about the nativity. You're not enlightened, but you could fix that when you sober up.

I don't drink.

My example about the Selma march was simple. What if someone had prevented it? We don't need to give a history lesson to parallel stopping a parade with stopping that march. Or with stopping people from entering a bakery.

As to the nativity. You expressed intolerance for another idea. Instead of taking mine down, why not set yours up beside it?
 
I don't drink.

My example about the Selma march was simple. What if someone had prevented it? We don't need to give a history lesson to parallel stopping a parade with stopping that march. Or with stopping people from entering a bakery.

As to the nativity. You expressed intolerance for another idea. Instead of taking mine down, why not set yours up beside it?
Someone did stop it and not with shouting. That's the whole point. You don't know what you are talking about. The Missouri kids didn't stop anything. They marched just like the Selma folks. The Selma marchers impeded cars for days. You are arguing they should have been arrested for destroying liberty. You are completely backwards on this issue and its becoming my suspicion its because of a lack of basic education on how freedom and justice was won in the past.
 
No, this is what freedom looks like.
Yes, we know how much you enjoyed that the first time.
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Good Lord.
 
there is something about this story that bugs me.
There is a mention in the video how these students want officials to focus on retention and graduation rates among blacks....maybe this is my simple mind working, but isn't a student being retained and graduating based on the student? I mean, i guess the university can beg and plead and give out free stuff to keep kids from dropping out or transferring.

Then another girl in the video goes on about people not being aware of their "privilege" or people aren't aware of what they do that could be offensive to others. Why do people think there is some right to not be offended?

and can you imagine the horror if there was a group of students and a bunch of white students asked students of color to step aside for a photo:

Several photos included students of varied ethnicities, but organizers asked all non-black students to step aside for other photos featuring only black students.

One student said the request was not intended to exclude anyone.

“It’s basically to show unity with ourselves on this campus,” said Simone Banks-Mackey. “We’re showing that African-American students on this campus support African-American students on other campuses, while also saying all students support African-American lives.”
 
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Someone did stop it and not with shouting. That's the whole point. You don't know what you are talking about. The Missouri kids didn't stop anything. They marched just like the Selma folks. The Selma marchers impeded cars for days. You are arguing they should have been arrested for destroying liberty. You are completely backwards on this issue and its becoming my suspicion its because of a lack of basic education on how freedom and justice was won in the past.

It took days but the Selma marchers got there. But trying to drag me deeper into the story isn't going to work, you obfuscator. I made a very simple point and muddying it up isn't going to work.

You CAN'T deliberately impede the progress of someone else! It doesn't matter if your points are right wrong or you want to juggle for hours, you can't do it!

The parade (I'm assuming) was planned and approved including any permits required. The protestors knew it and why do you think they locked arms and stood exactly where they stood.
 
It took days but the Selma marchers got there. But trying to drag me deeper into the story isn't going to work, you obfuscator. I made a very simple point and muddying it up isn't going to work.

You CAN'T deliberately impede the progress of someone else! It doesn't matter if your points are right wrong or you want to juggle for hours, you can't do it!

The parade (I'm assuming) was planned and approved including any permits required. The protestors knew it and why do you think they locked arms and stood exactly where they stood.
You made a simple wrong point. The first Selma march was in the street. Traffic was impeded. The state came in and beat the marcher in an event known as Bloody Sunday. The next Selma march was also in the street and impeded traffic and was blocked by just the sort of redneck protesters you mentioned who even killed a protester. The third Selma march was in the street and impeded traffic for days. This time it was protected by the US military and made the trip over 4 days, all of which stopped traffic. Stopping traffic is not some bright line that makes an action wrong. You and your allies in these threads are arguing against Selma.
 
More of the first amendment, freedom to speak and protest and agitate and practice civil disobedience and petition. You know, basic liberty.

I support all of those things to. But, I also support the right for people to peacefully assemble and parade unimpeded.
 
I support all of those things to. But, I also support the right for people to peacefully assemble and parade unimpeded.

Well you support half of that at least. And it is interesting considering one is a fundamental right necessary for our great system of governance and the other is a homecoming parade for the very students who are doing the first one.
 
Either of you drawing parallels to what happened at MU and that picture is unhinged idiocy.

When this takes place:

A) Young, black people protesting, nonviolently, in public, against racism
B) Dogs being sic'd on said black protestors

It seems not only obvious, but pertinent to post that picture. My guess is that the only reason you disagree is because these blacks are complaining about minor, possibly ridiculous things, while those blacks were not.
 
That's just what the protesters did, peacefully assembled and paraded.

No they impeded also.

I am fine with the Westboro Baptist Church showing up and doing their thing at a fallen soldiers funeral. I am not fine if they get in the way of the procession.

I am fine with Christian loonies doing their thing at a Gay Pride parade. I am not fine with them impeding the LGTB's parade route.

You are trying to pick who's 1st amendment rights is more worthy.
 
When this takes place:

A) Young, black people protesting, nonviolently, in public, against racism
B) Dogs being sic'd on said black protestors

It seems not only obvious, but pertinent to post that picture. My guess is that the only reason you disagree is because these blacks are complaining about minor, possibly ridiculous things, while those blacks were not.

Overly emotional hyperbole.
 
Sure, from both sides....no wait, Tradition actually would sic the dogs. That is the scary part.
 
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