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Voting Age

I would accept 21 if you will accept no one over 75 can vote. Seniors are more susceptible to misinformation and often less informed than many young adults after all.
Also, how about having a max age (like 75) for someone running for president and Congress?
 
Also, how about having a max age (like 75) for someone running for president and Congress?
If people don't want a 75 year old candidate all they have to do is not vote for them. No one is forcing us to choose elderly candidates or keep them in power year after year. We have the power to stop electing them.
 
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Probably a controversial opinion but I actually believe in a perfect world, as I continue aging my vote would begin to slowly count for less and less at some big milestone. I mean when I get to be late in my adult life I should have a bit less of a say on the future of our country than my kids and future grand kids.

I will probably institute my own form of this when I get to that point and just poll all of them for their beliefs and go with that.

when you get to the point where you have a lot fewer tomorrows and many more yesterdays…I just don’t think I should have as much of a say in the direction the ship is headed.
Although, the elderly should have input on any proposed changes to social security and/or Medicare/Medicaid plans.
 
You and the MAGAs won't agree to this. Because you want to elect one.
I would have been for it currently with either Biden or Trump. While Trump is more “with it” mentally than Biden…the presidency is physically demanding, so I would be for an age “cap” for the president. Also, there should be term limits for Congress.
 
What knowledge do you suspect the new citizen is lacking vs a person born here?
Life experiences of being a long-term U.S. citizen would be helpful in the depth of knowledge when voting on particular issues…IMHO.
 
Life experiences of being a long-term U.S. citizen would be helpful in the depth of knowledge when voting on particular issues…IMHO.
But life experience doesn't count for any citizen after a certain age according to you. How much life experience is too much to vote?
 
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Why do you assume these people are "new" ? Are you aware of any testing that's required for the vast majority of those folks to get citizenship? Your assumption is faulty and based on either ignorance or bias.
Your scenario doesn’t take into account a very real possibility (if the Dems get in full power) that they give amnesty to all illegal immigrants to automatically become U.S. citizens. In that case, those individuals wouldn’t receive the “testing”/education that immigrants who come legally to this country.
 
Your scenario doesn’t take into account a very real possibility (if the Dems get in full power) that they give amnesty to all illegal immigrants to automatically become U.S. citizens. In that case, those individuals wouldn’t receive the “testing”/education that immigrants who come legally to this country.
In 1986 when amnesty was offered it still required a citizenship test to be taken.
 
If people don't want a 75 year old candidate all they have to do is not vote for them. No one is forcing us to choose elderly candidates or keep them in power year after year. We have the power to stop electing them.
However, codifying it would avoid a presidential race like we initially had of Biden vs Trump and the resultant late addition of another candidate (like we had in this election year).
 
However, codifying it would avoid a presidential race like we initially had of Biden vs Trump and the resultant late addition of another candidate (like we had in this election year).
And take away choice for the voters. Either we want to pick our own candidates or we don't.
 
But life experience doesn't count for any citizen after a certain age according to you. How much life experience is too much to vote?
However, I’m not the one in this thread advocating for the elderly to no longer vote. 😉
 
And take away choice for the voters. Either we want to pick our own candidates or we don't.
Agreed…I’ve just always thought that while there is a minimum age to become U.S. president, there should be a max age too. Probably won’t happen, but just a thought I had.
 
Sounded like you were in favor of limiting what the elderly should have a say about.
Nope…that was a different poster. I even said the elderly should have continued input on social security, Medicare, etc.
 
Life experiences of being a long-term U.S. citizen would be helpful in the depth of knowledge when voting on particular issues…IMHO.
Over 60% of our government assistance (what you affectionately refer to as handouts) go to people over the age of 65.

For the sake of fiscal responsibility, shouldn’t we limit their ability to vote since they are just leeches, asking for more free money from the rest of us?
 
Agreed…I’ve just always thought that while there is a minimum age to become U.S. president, there should be a max age too. Probably won’t happen, but just a thought I had.
I really don't understand why the minimum age for all offices isn't 18. Probably something I wasn't paying attention to in civics class.
 
Surely you know that others don’t follow your example?
Sure. Like the advisor for Iowa Young Republicans. She’s a nursing faculty member. You’d recognize her. The one who has Trump paraphernalia all over her car. You remember, the one who taught that 100% of women who had an abortion suffered from depression. I’m know, the one who attempts to indoctrinate conservative ideals into her students.

Point is, there are teachers who are conservative. There are teachers who are liberal. And there are teachers who are not political. Just like every other part of society
Surely you know that others don’t follow your example?
 
That's because being a US citizen is the ONLY qualifier for people >18, Cletus.

And the folks that have to pass the citizenship test are 100% certainly more informed and educated on our laws than you are; I seriously doubt you'd pass that test.
Thanks for letting me know the qualifications. I already knew that though. I was asking the question as to why they are that way.

I never was a good test taker and probably would fail, does that make me less of an American even though I have lived here my whole life. Along with many other generations of my family.
 
Only land owners should be allowed to vote.

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Always been somewhat curious as to why we have a voting age yet someone isn’t required to be a US citizen for a certain number of years before being allowed to vote.
Some might say anyone under 18 doesn’t know any better because they are to young and will vote the same way their parents do. Couldn’t you say the same thing about new US citizens voting the same way as a friend or what someone encourages them to vote?

Interestingly enough, I see California wants to lower it to 16 as they feel like anyone working and paying taxes should be allowed to vote. Would be interesting to see if California is allowed to make this change how quickly other states will follow as I’m sure cali will receive a lot more democratic votes.
I'm willing to bet that any new citizen knows more about american history and the political system than you.
 
I'm willing to bet that any new citizen knows more about american history and the political system than you.
Good thing there’s more to America than just history and politics.
Do they know the English language? Do they know the imperial system? Do they know the laws? Do they know American football? Do they know what words they can and can’t say? Do they know they can’t discriminate?
I would think they know all of these things but then again they don’t even have to complete their US Citizen in the English language.
 
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When it comes to voting and in a lot of things really Republicans are scared little snow flakes. So scared of too many people voting. If you are over 18 and a US citizen in good standing you have every right to vote period.

Maybe if Republicans focused more on coming up with ideas to help people rather than just instilling fear and creating non issues along with playing games to suppress the vote they would win more often. A crazy concept I know.
If your definition of snowflake is someone who is defending themselves and our country against a democratic party that will do and say anything to hold onto power, then yes most of us are snowflakes. The party that has floated the idea of creating a state out of Washington DC, adding PR as a state just to get more libs in the Senate, abandoning the filibuster, packing the Supreme Court, refusing to allow voter ID or any secure voting practice. Dems could make Putin blush.
 
No need to get salty just because you are nearing the hypothetical loss-of-voting-rights age threshold.
If it were to happen, you are getting closer to the hypothetical loss-of-voting-rights age threshold as well.
 
English for starters. Yet they can take a US Citizen test in another language
No they can't unless they meet these requirements:

You are exempt from the English language requirement, but are still required to take the civics test if you are:

  • Age 50 or older at the time of filing for naturalization and have lived as a permanent resident (Green Card holder) in the United States for 20 years (commonly referred to as the “50/20” exception).
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  • Age 55 or older at the time of filing for naturalization and have lived as a permanent resident in the United States for 15 years (commonly referred to as the “55/15” exception).
 
Over 60% of our government assistance (what you affectionately refer to as handouts) go to people over the age of 65.

For the sake of fiscal responsibility, shouldn’t we limit their ability to vote since they are just leeches, asking for more free money from the rest of us?
I guess that’s one way of looking at it, but I doubt the elderly will ever be limited from voting.
 
Answered me right there didn’t you. No need to explain why they can take it in their language.
One would also think living here for 15-20 years now, they would figure out the language. Especially if they expect to vote.
How old are you? I'm 64.

I imagine they do understand and can speak some English, but feel more comfortable taking a test in their native language. Are you aware that the citizenship test they take is not multiple choice? It's not something they can pass by guessing.

Only 11.6% take the test in a language other that English.
 
I really don't understand why the minimum age for all offices isn't 18. Probably something I wasn't paying attention to in civics class.
I believe the minimum age to be the U.S. president is 35. That seems reasonable. Would you really want a 19 year old to be the president? My bad - I imagine you were talking about voter age and not age to run for president?
 
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