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Voting Age

I believe the minimum age to be the U.S. president is 35. That seems reasonable. Would you really want a 19 year old to be the president?
I probably wouldn't vote for a 19 year old, but I don't understand the barrier to them choosing to run for President. I know the law says 35, I'm just wondering what is the justification for that age requirement.
 
How old are you? I'm 64.

I imagine they do understand and can speak some English, but feel more comfortable taking a test in their native language. Are you aware that the citizenship test they take is not multiple choice? It's not something they can pass by guessing.

Only 11.6% take the test in a language other that English.
But they take it in a different language. You asked me what else they should know other than history and politics. I thought the English language would be a pretty important one. It’s truly one of the first things any American child learns aside from motor skills.
 
But they take it in a different language. You asked me what else they should know other than history and politics. I thought the English language would be a pretty important one. It’s truly one of the first things any American child learns aside from motor skills.
Why does a citizen speaking a different language bother you?
 
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I would say a lot.
If I was new in some other country, I would like to think someone born and raised there would know a hell of a lot more than I do.
I would almost guarantee that’s wrong. Maybe everyone should have to pass the citizenship test before they can vote. All new citizens would pass. I think a healthy percentage of Americans would not.

But I admire your creativity in finding a way to both restrict voting rights and screw legal immigrants at the same time. Your are a fine example of a Republican.
 
I probably wouldn't vote for a 19 year old, but I don't understand the barrier to them choosing to run for President. I know the law says 35, I'm just wondering what is the justification for that age requirement.
I would think it would be life experiences and a broader knowledge base as you reach middle age.
 
Good thing there’s more to America than just history and politics.
Do they know the English language? Do they know the imperial system? Do they know the laws? Do they know American football? Do they know what words they can and can’t say? Do they know they can’t discriminate?
I would think they know all of these things but then again they don’t even have to complete their US Citizen in the English language.
Ah, when you're king new citizens won't be able to vote until they can explain the old BCS ranking system.
Seems as smart as you.
 
Why does a citizen having to wait 5-10 years to vote bother you?
Why did you come to this thread and make a comment if something in the thread bothered you?
Because they are a CITIZEN. US Citizens all have the right to vote if they have not committed a crime to lose the right. Your other question is childish.
 
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He will not give you a coherent answer here.
I know you’re not asking me, but I would think a national language (for any country) would promote a more united/unified country? Didn’t Arnold Schwarzenegger (as governor of California) also promote that same thought?
 
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Good thing there’s more to America than just history and politics.
Do they know the English language? Do they know the imperial system? Do they know the laws? Do they know American football? Do they know what words they can and can’t say? Do they know they can’t discriminate?
I would think they know all of these things but then again they don’t even have to complete their US Citizen in the English language.

It's weird that you make zero mention of civics and knowledge of our system of government here...

Lucky for you, you're already a "citizen" and you can discriminate willy-nilly...
 
I know you’re not asking me, but I would think a national language (for any country) would promote a more united/unified country? Didn’t Arnold Schwarzenegger (as governor of California) also promote that same thought?
Did you read the requirements to take the test in a different language. They have to have been permanent US residents for a least 15-20 years to have that exemption. Only 11.6% use the language exemption.
 
You telling me my wife (and others) could sign up for the National Guard (with parent’s signature) at 17 but isn’t responsible enough to be allowed to vote?
Yep and I agree. A 17 year old shouldn't be voting in federal elections. I can see an argument for local.
 
Also, how about having a max age (like 75) for someone running for president and Congress?
I was being cheeky about the voting age. But I actually do agree with either a max age or some sort of required mental competence test for national office. I don’t believe Biden would pass now for instance.

I also don’t think politicians like Pelosi and Grassley should have what amounts to lifetime positions.
 
Thanks for letting me know the qualifications. I already knew that though. I was asking the question as to why they are that way.

I never was a good test taker and probably would fail, does that make me less of an American even though I have lived here my whole life. Along with many other generations of my family.

So, let’s get this straight. Not knowing our laws and history shouldn’t prevent you from voting. But not knowing anything about American football should prevent an immigrant from voting.

Do you really not have a clue about how dumb/bigoted you sound? JFC.
 
Because they are a CITIZEN. US Citizens all have the right to vote if they have not committed a crime to lose the right. Your other question is childish.
Once again we discussed that some take that citizen test in a different language. If you can’t speak the language, do you really think they should be voting?
 
So, let’s get this straight. Not knowing our laws and history shouldn’t prevent you from voting. But not knowing anything about American football should prevent an immigrant from voting.

Do you really not have a clue about how dumb/bigoted you sound? JFC.
Take a joke buddy.
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It's weird that you make zero mention of civics and knowledge of our system of government here...

Lucky for you, you're already a "citizen" and you can discriminate willy-nilly...
No kidding. I’m not sure I could find another country where I could live there illegally and be gifted free things.
 
Who is talking about illegals voting? This was about people that have legally become US citizens. People who you want to discriminate against and disenfranchise.
you just did.
I was talking about America being a country that is allowing people to enter illegally and giving them free things. Take it easy Prague
 
Yes, if they are citizens. I am not afraid of people that are different from me.
So they can’t speak the language we speak. I wonder if they could easily be convinced to vote a certain way if they don’t understand what is being said.
Hope they don’t fall into the wrong crowd. MAGA might fill them in on something that’s a lie and they don’t know any different.
 
So they can’t speak the language we speak. I wonder if they could easily be convinced to vote a certain way if they don’t understand what is being said.
Hope they don’t fall into the wrong crowd. MAGA might fill them in on something that’s a lie and they don’t know any different.
You're making it very clear that MAGA wouldn't accept them.
 
So they can’t speak the language we speak. I wonder if they could easily be convinced to vote a certain way if they don’t understand what is being said.
Hope they don’t fall into the wrong crowd. MAGA might fill them in on something that’s a lie and they don’t know any different.
They're not stupid, they passed a test you are not sure you could pass.

Do you really think English speakers are more intelligent? A bunch of English speaking American citizens killed themselves because Jim Jones told them to. Other English speaking American citizens put on matching outfits and committed suicide so they could be picked up by an alien spaceship.
 
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That's certainly what they are afraid of even though many immigrants are very conservative. If MAGA would stop demonizing them they would probably get their votes.
Yep. Abortion and other socially conservative stances naturally like up with Latino catholic viewpoints. And yet the MAGA core non-college white male voting base doesn’t want them here. It’s a conundrum for the GOP.
 
They're not stupid, they passed a test you are not sure you could pass.

Do you really think English speakers are more intelligent? A bunch of English speaking American citizens killed themselves because Jim Jones told them to. Other English speaking American citizens put on matching outfits and committed suicide so they could be picked up by an alien spaceship.
Who said they were stupid?
Do I think I am more intelligent because I speak English? Not at all. Do I think I understand someone speaking English better than someone that doesn’t speak English? Abso****inglutly.

Why are you so persistent in wanting to change American ways and become less American? If someone wants to be an American, speak the language. If you don’t want to speak the language, go back to where you came from. Why do we keep catering to non Americans.
 
If your definition of snowflake is someone who is defending themselves and our country against a democratic party that will do and say anything to hold onto power, then yes most of us are snowflakes. The party that has floated the idea of creating a state out of Washington DC, adding PR as a state just to get more libs in the Senate, abandoning the filibuster, packing the Supreme Court, refusing to allow voter ID or any secure voting practice. Dems could make Putin blush.
Why shouldn't the residents of DC and PR have the rights other states have if they want them? If Republicans are so awesome they should create policies that are beneficial. Especially PR. Why would they automatically vote dem? If your party actually tried to help people those votes and seats are there for the taking.

Again a bunch of pussies who have to rig the system to have a chance with their shit policies. If you actually tried to help people they will vote for you. Crazy I know. But instead your party goes all in on making sure people don't vote. Have you ever stopped to think about why? No because you are a good little lemming. Don't think too much Abby it is scary!
 
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Who said they were stupid?
Do I think I am more intelligent because I speak English? Not at all. Do I think I understand someone speaking English better than someone that doesn’t speak English? Abso****inglutly.

Why are you so persistent in wanting to change American ways and become less American? If someone wants to be an American, speak the language. If you don’t want to speak the language, go back to where you came from. Why do we keep catering to non Americans.
If they don't understand English how is it going to be easier to persuade them in English?

The American way is immigration. Almost all of us are descendants from immigrants. Being born in America doesn't make anyone more worthy of citizenship than someone that actually has to apply for and earn citizenship.

If you don’t want to speak the language, go back to where you came from.

When did your ancestors arrive in America? Could they speak English?



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