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Well, there IS football. Like where his son plays. Just not in the B10. More blue state hell.I am also shocked football fans are upset there is no football. No one could have predicted it.
Its how it was handled and the complete lack of transparency that pisses everyone off. The B1Gs terrible leadership during this process is embarrassing and will have negative consequences for the conference. Warren has to be fired for this terrible leadership even if he is just taking marching orders from the cowardly presidents. To think high school, college and NFL football will be played in many of these states and no B1G football is just crazy to think about.
What?? He didn’t expect backlash for failed leadership?!!?!??? Usually the backlash is called getting fired!
I think we all live in our own little bubbles and I’m sure in his bubble in Minneapolis or Chicago or wherever he’s been spending the past few months most people he talks to probably think it’s a no-brainer that we should be in lockdown as much as possible until there is a vaccine. But he’s finding out now that lots of people in the rest of the country don’t feel that way.
And with all of the other leagues playing with minimal problems so far this decision looks dumber all the time.
sounds like a guy you want leading your organization to meIf he didn’t expect backlash, what did he expect?
With reports coming out about the “data” they used being bogus and he’s holding firm they won’t revisit “their” decision he still doesn’t expect backlash?
And our resident "see I told you so, been saying for months we wouldn't play" posters on here keep getting quieter and quieter about "being right".
I talked with a very good source about what happened. The P5 Commissioners had been having a daily zoom call to discuss a way forward. Warren blindsided the other four with the 10 game conference only schedule. The Commissioners and AD's were totally pissed with this. They all felt betrayed. In the interest of unity, they all came back with 10 game schedules several days later. Then Warren cancelled the season with NO discussion with the other conferences. Warren apparently thought he could intimidate the other four into cancelling, but you don't push the SEC or Texas and Oklahoma around. The three conferences still playing have strong unity among each other, and the Big 10 and Pac are on their own. It was a stupid play by Warren, a power grab it appears that didn't work. He will never be trusted by the other conferences again. Delaney yes, Warren no.Curious if he took the initiative to brainstorm with his peers to at least get their perspective on best way forward.
You'd think that would have been part of the decision-making process, but I'm questioning if those talks with other commissioners even took place.
Exactly. Every day when he does say something, he only digs the hole bigger. Probably a good reason he's been mostly quiet. The guys has nothing of substance to say...If he didn’t think about all angles of having a season and not having a season and all the ramifications from both sides, good and bad, then he is not the person you want leading your organization.
Good leadership looks at things from all angles before making a decision. In this case, they made a decision but should of allowed teams to go to camp with their full team numbers to see how camps ran with positive and negative cases in the month prior to the start of the season but shut it down before even trying. That is the sad part about all of this, not even trying.
Someone has to fall on the sword and go down with the ship, #firekevinwarrennow
I have no sources but I’ve read a lot of similar things in leaks on Twitter. The interesting thing is the Big12, which was in a relatively weak position for the past decade, is now in a position of relative strength because if they can play this year while we don’t then it will go a long ways towards putting them in a stronger financial position than us. So I’m sure they have plenty of motivation to make this work. And evidently we don’t want to admit we were wrong so we are motivated to keep our season shut down no matter what.I talked with a very good source about what happened. The P5 Commissioners had been having a daily zoom call to discuss a way forward. Warren blindsided the other four with the 10 game conference only schedule. The Commissioners and AD's were totally pissed with this. They all felt betrayed. In the interest of unity, they all came back with 10 game schedules several days later. Then Warren cancelled the season with NO discussion with the other conferences. Warren apparently thought he could intimidate the other four into cancelling, but you don't push the SEC or Texas and Oklahoma around. The three conferences still playing have strong unity among each other, and the Big 10 and Pac are on their own. It was a stupid play by Warren, a power grab it appears that didn't work. He will never be trusted by the other conferences again. Delaney yes, Warren no.
(Big 10 should fire his ass and get Delaney back on a temp basis asap. We need all four conferences playing)
I think we all live in our own little bubbles and I’m sure in his bubble in Minneapolis or Chicago or wherever he’s been spending the past few months most people he talks to probably think it’s a no-brainer that we should be in lockdown as much as possible until there is a vaccine. But he’s finding out now that lots of people in the rest of the country don’t feel that way.
Unfortunately you may be right. at this point the Commish is digging in his heals, not wanting to admit what a poor course he and the decision makers chose...I have no sources but I’ve read a lot of similar things in leaks on Twitter. The interesting thing is the Big12, which was in a relatively weak position for the past decade, is now in a position of relative strength because if they can play this year while we don’t then it will go a long ways towards putting them in a stronger financial position than us. So I’m sure they have plenty of motivation to make this work. And evidently we don’t want to admit we were wrong so we are motivated to keep our season shut down no matter what.
This. So far the leadership from Warren is weak and disappointing. His time in office might be short. Cincinnati will playing be playing football but OSU won't. What is wrong with that picture.This seems another red flag to me that Warren may have got himself in over his head in this position. Even if I don't like the decision not to play I could respect the man if he had taken a firm stance and communicated clearly to all parties involved and then stood by it. Not seeing the backlash coming tells me he didn't think this through clearly.
God forbid anyone would die. These are young people. There any number of places an athlete could contract the virus. The ped mall, downtown, classrooms, dorms and social gatherings. Because an athlete gets the virus does not automatically mean it came from a teammate. Yes, I understand the concern if one member of the team has the virus he/she could pass it onto others. But the staff of each sport is making certain that all the proper guidelines and precautions are in place. For athletes, the risk is less than it is for the rest of us.Deep down they're celebrating this, sports being cut, and so on. I mean if all that saves one life...
God forbid anyone would die. These are young people. There any number of places an athlete could contract the virus. The ped mall, downtown, classrooms, dorms and social gatherings. Because an athlete gets the virus does not automatically mean it came from a teammate. Yes, I understand the concern if one member of the team has the virus he/she could pass it onto others. But the staff of each sport is making certain that all the proper guidelines and precautions are in place. For athletes, the risk is less than it is for the rest of us.
This is a great comment to the people who say do you really think he wanted to shut down football and lose all that money. People of his ilk live in that bubble. It's not he just wanted football shut down he's of the belief more things should be shut down.I think we all live in our own little bubbles and I’m sure in his bubble in Minneapolis or Chicago or wherever he’s been spending the past few months most people he talks to probably think it’s a no-brainer that we should be in lockdown as much as possible until there is a vaccine. But he’s finding out now that lots of people in the rest of the country don’t feel that way.
And with all of the other leagues playing with minimal problems so far this decision looks dumber all the time.
It's all political, he's nothing but a leftest pushing his voting agenda
IF (yes it’s a big if) everyone who isn’t b1g commissioner has come to realize the stupidity of canceling, is there some way any way to rescue a fall season at this point?
If true it shows even more what a dope he is.